JayTL

I feel like that's happened a couple times.

I definitely erased some of those movies in my mind as well

candyrocket786

Yes... that god-awful Last Stand film that killed everyone off.

... and yes everyone was dead in Logan, but its a superior film to the Last Stand.

devilshalo

It wasn't Last Stand.. it was more Days of Future Past that kind of did to the X-Men what Star Trek did with the Kelvin universe.

E Unit

Maybe this is their stab at that multiverse? Just constant reboots every few movies?

mwynn

Days of Future past took out X-men Origins Wolverine and The Last Stand.

I am also sure plans changed when Matthew Vaughn was not brought back after First Class.

mwynn

This movie is pretty strange to me as most of the news is not even about Flash.

stingermck

Yeah Flash is going to guest star in his own movie.
I'm sure it will be some time travel fuckery, fan service cameos and then he resets the time line best he can. Just like the comic.

Michael Corvin

So they're ditching a cast that works in favor of unknowns? Of course they are.

Also, we all pretty much knew this. Affleck was already out, so The Flash was always a nice bonus at best for fans. Also Cavill was only on the hook for one more film anyway, right? So we were already 99% sure he was on the way out too. The Flash just puts the nail in the coffin.

The other half of the rumor is weird. So the new Justice League (keeping it vague), "sidelining" arguably the two biggest superheroes of all time is a bizarre way to go.

Double_Oh_7

It also took out X2... basically it only left the first X-Men movie intact.

mwynn

This could also be a money play, the group of unknows would be a lot cheaper.

Obi-Wanma

We can't be sure that any of it is intact. Everything changed mid Wolverine. To say that any of the films after that would play out as originally scripted is not a given.

Mike86

I’m interested in the prospect of Keaton’s Bruce Wayne acting as a mentor figure to Batgirl if that’s the direction things are going. I think doing a Justice League led by Batgirl, Supergirl, and Wonder Woman is probably not the greatest idea though if there’s any truth to that rumor.

Double_Oh_7

The fact that Wolverine and Rogue are at the school at the end of Days of Future Past is evidence that the events of the first X-Men movie did happen.

IBJoel

I feel like a better way of shaking up the Justice League would be to skip ahead like 5-10 years (actually I guess you could do it to where once the Flashpoint happens, Flash accidentally overshoots his own time), where you could bring in legacy characters like in Batman Beyond or some of the stuff just prior to the New 52 reboot.

Obi-Wanma

Not really. There's any number of other ways that they could have ended up there apart from the events of the first X-Men.

PhantomStranger

People will be better off understanding everything if they realize this movie should really be called Flashpoint. Warner is using this movie to reboot their filmverse. They were also beaten to the punch by Spider-Man: No Way Home in certain characters from the past appearing.

Double_Oh_7

Stop being silly; you could say that about the events in any movie. But what we saw is what happened.

Obi-Wanma

I'm not being silly. We saw that things were fundamentally changed at the time of the the time of the 3 mile island event in Wolverine. We cannot say that anything that happened after that is the same as what we saw in the original trilogy. 2 characters being at the X-Mansion years later is not proof of any particular events that occurred before that.

EDIT: I wrote this quickly before I left work and it occurred to me that I had a couple of things mixed up. Of course, Wolverine comes back in 1973, way before 3 Mile Island, and is captured by Stryker/Mystique. Presumably, his future is much different from this point forward. Not to mention that everything changed when Mystique does not kill Trask, and nothing can be counted on to be the same as it was leading up to the original timeline.

Also if you follow the plotline that the First Class sequels took from that point forward (which presumably is the new future that leads to the the one at the end of DOFP), Mystique becomes an X-Man and dies in 1992, making it impossible for her to appear in the events of the first X-Men film in the year 2000.

Josh-da-man

I think that the chronological order of the X-Men films looks like this:

1. X-Men First Class (1961)
2. X-Men Origins Wolverine (1980)
3. X-Men
4. X2: X-Men United
5. X-Men: The Last Stand
6. The Wolverine
7. X-Men: Days of Future Past

The time travel element of Days of Future Past goes back to a point after First Class but before X-Men Origins: Wolverine, and invalidates all of the movies after First Class, and a second timeline begins...

8. X-Men Apocalypse
9. X-Men Dark Phoenix
10. Deadpool 1
11. Deadpool 2
12. New Mutants
13. Logan

E Unit

Even if they called it that, I still wouldn’t really understand it. I don’t remember a lot of the Flash comics I read as a kid.

Mike86

I think that’s one of the problems with a character like The Flash. Sure he’s recognizable, but aside from a few arcs he’s not a very memorable character.

That being said though the same can be said for most of the big MCU characters so there’s a way to make it work. WB/DC just seems to struggle with that.

I think doing a Flashpoint inspired film with other guest characters is a pretty good route to take, but it may end up sidelining The Flash in what’s technically his film. I mean to be honest I’m more excited about this film for the Keaton aspect of it than anything.

majorjoe23

But we could also say the Arrowverse beat No Way Home to the punch with certain characters from the past appearing.

IBJoel

Ah yes, who could forget the classic characters of... Alexander Knox and Huntress... making 5 second cameos

No, I actually agree with you, although the old characters in No Way Home drive the plot in a way that even the biggest alternate universe characters in COIE did not. It does seem The Flash is going to lean more towards the former: Fewer, but more important "Variants".

Josh-da-man

Wasn't it going to be called Flashpoint at one point, or am I misremembering?

mwynn

Ben Affleck Says The Flash Has His Favorite Batman Scenes He Ever Filmed, Confirms End With Character

https://comicbook.com/dc/news/ben-af...s-ever-filmed/