ckolchak

we obviously see the character of Peter Parker differently.
i think the sequence is sweet without being sacharine or schmaltzy, is true to the character, serves the story, and i give kudos to Maguire for not being afraid to look unattractively dorky.
as i was watching i had a feeling that a lot of the younger viewers (teens, early twenties) were going to rag on it.
not making an assumption about your age Rivero, just that i could see a certain audience weaned on pretentious, 'bad ass' heros, would have a hard time getting into the spirit there.
(also the fact that the sequence prominently features a geriatric adult contemporary am radio staple would have made it hell for the little music snobs out there)

Michael Corvin

Okay it was a loaded statement but to take what you said...

and just change "evil dead" to "SM2." That scene stands out like a sore thumb in about 5 hours of movie footage between the two films. There is no other scene remotely like it. I didn't hate the scene it was just awkward.

SeanValen

Another fan of raindrops keep falling on my head.

Jackskeleton

much like any of the Marvel characters, N.Y is a very important part of it and couldn't be Spidey without it.

Rivero

It isn't sacharine or schmaltzy, I agree. What it is is intentionally cheesy, like a Mentos Freshmaker commercial. Almost cynical, even. The freeze-frame on Parker's face, it's like Raimi is just treating this whole scene as one big joke. As for 'bad-ass' pretentious heroes, I loved the final freeze capturing a moment of true happiness for the hero in the last Harry Potter movie.

silentbob007

As I remember, this is Jack's favorite part, too

reverie

Thank you! It's been awhile since I've seen it, and for some reason it wasn't quite matching my memory, but I'm glad for confirmation. On the topic of.. I didn't mind it at all. Or the New Yorker stuff.

roger_d

My one dislike of the movie is that no one is suppose to know who spiderman was except for maybe a few people but in the subway scene, everyone saw who spiderman was. The idea of him wearing a mask is just that. It sort of ruined the whole idea of no one knowing who spidy was. Yes i know it's just a character in a comic book.

Tyler_Durden

But the technical side of a film is (in most cases) nowhere near its most important aspect. The Evil Dead films (especially Evil Dead 2) have inventiveness and off-the-wall energy in abundance, and certainly these qualities shine through in the operation scene.

You're right in saying that the scene made many of us think of Evil Dead because Raimi directed both, but nevertheless, the similarities (e.g. frenetic camera movement, people being hurled at walls, creative uses of a chainsaw) are unquestionable.

For the record, this was my favorite scene in the film.

rexinnih

Thought the same. I could almost feel the weight off his shoulders.

LorenzoL

I liked the "Raindrops keep falling on my head" sequence but the best part of this movie was the big "reveal" with Mary Jane.

El-Kabong

Um, no. Nobody knows who Spiderman is - still. Of the 30 or 40 people on the train, when pressed for a discription, would come up with 30 or 40 answers. It happens all the time in real life, with real crime and real eyewitnesses.

harosa

What would they say? A white guy in his mid-20's, average looking? If he were to be photographed then that would be something but he's not a famous person where someone seeing his face would jeopardize his identity.

taa455

I like the sequence very much.

RocShemp

I liked the raindrops, subway, and hospital scenes a lot. They were real highlights in an already great movie.

As for the hospital scene, yes, it reminded me of Evil Dead 2 because Raimi directed it and also because the scene was very Raimi. Much like the shot in the first Spider-Man where Peter is going to make a big swing toward the guy who killed Uncle Ben. The way Peter comes into frame and looks down intensely just before jumping down to swing on his spiderweb immediately brought to mind Darkman (another Raimi directed superhero-esque film) because of the style and tone of the shot.

And I like that juxstaposition. Notice how the Parker scenes in Spider-Man 2 could easily have come out of a movie like A Simple Plan whereas the Spider-Man scenes had a whole Evil Dead 2/Darkman vibe going. I really like how Sam balanced his two styles to great effect in this movie.

OldBoy

totally agree. there are def no scenes remotely like it in either (the gore though is much more grounded and realistic, which is not done in anyway in "Evil Dead" and yes! i know it is done by metallic tentacles fused to a man's backside. But, what this movie does that I think most can say is not done in "Evil Dead" is that Raimi makes the viewer believe something like tentacles fused to a back and then run amok can actually happen in real life) which is why it stands as so original, unexpected, and genuinely needed to define Dr. Ock in a picture that isn't like any other super-hero film to date and transcends the genre. it is not only a great super-hero flick (which i hate to keep referring to it as such) but it is an incredibly well made and entertaining movie period!

QuikSilver

I have a question that is a little bit off topic. But it has been bugging me. The question is, does Aunt May know that Peter is Spider-man?

Kal-El

I believe it was implied that she knew.

Michael Corvin

I just wanted post what I heard from a comedian on Bob & Tom last week. It was pretty funny. He was saying what a hack of a superhero Spider Man is. The worst super hero ever. Why? What powers does he have? Can he fly? Well... not really, he can shoot his web throughout the city and look like he is flying. Stick him out in a cornfield in Nebraska and see what kind of superhero he is. See how that webslinging works out for him.

Of course the comedian tells it better. But I thought it was great.

Oh, and I took it that May knew/knows his secret.

Lara Means

In the comics she told Peter that she always knew. I honestly believe she knows in Spider-Man 2 judging from the end conversation she has with Peter when she was packing her shit to move. Just listen to what she says and how she says it.

wmansir

Speaking of "it's implied she knows", wasn't it implied that MJ realized Parker was Spider-man at the end of the first movie?

Ketamine

Sorry, but I think their comment is stupid (I know they are just trying to be funny, but sounds like he fell flat). I would guess that 75% of super heros don't fly. Sure webslinging is a part of how SM fights, but with his spider sense, agility, strength, and abilty to use his webs in many different ways, I think he would do just fine in Nebraska. Now, put him in Kansas, then I think he may have some trouble.

Michael Corvin

^^ If you over analyze any joke it will fall flat. It was funnier hearing it.

Fartface

WOW! Huge difference there! One is a classic, the other classic schlock. I'm surprised it took so long for someone to point out the obvious mistake. That gets a big 'DUH'!!!!

By the way, I haven't seen the film. I've been disappointed in Raimi's work since he sold out to Hollyweed.

The Infidel

Do you think by the third movie they'll start listing Kirsten Dunst's nipples in the credits, or will they be simply relegated, once again, as an uncredited cameo appearance?

Just curious.