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Old 09-09-04, 02:08 PM
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...but Violent S**t 3 - Infantry of Doom is my favorite movie!
Old 09-09-04, 02:28 PM
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Re: Re: Should some movies be banned and taken off the market?

Originally posted by devilshalo
Then don't watch them. Just because you find them offensive, doesn't mean everyone will find it offensive and without artistic merit.
My thoughts exactly...

Don't watch what you deem unwatchable but don't impose your values onto others. Who are you or anyone else to decide what is or is not acceptable for everyone else?
Old 09-09-04, 04:33 PM
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Re: Should some movies be banned and taken off the market?

Originally posted by orangeguy
Some movies show such terrible Violence and have no redeeming value at all. It seems like they were just made to shock people. I'm talking about movies like Monster,Butterfly Effect,Monster's Ball. I think these movie and other movies like them should be banned. You thoughts?
For you to list "Monster" and "Monster's Ball" in the same sentence as "The Butterfly Effect" and say they have no redeeming value leads me to believe you either haven't seen them or weren't paying attention.

What country do you live in? I think that's an important part of this discussion if we're going to understand how you think governmental censorship is a good idea.
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Originally posted by orangeguy
Kill Bill didn't seem that violent to me because it wasn't realistic. Some parts were almost silly. The movies I mentioned were very real.
So when is the next time you will actually be traveling back in time??
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Only child pornography and snuff films should be banned.
Unless Criterion puts them out. Too much of their stuff is out of print as it is.
Old 09-09-04, 08:06 PM
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I happen to own "Monster's Ball".. so I'd like you to pint out to me what you think is done there purely for shock's sake, no redeeming cultural value and so on.

The movie is made by a German director - like "American Beauty", which was made by a Brit - and is a reflection of a sad state of fact which exists in some parts of the American society. You have capital punishments? check. Childhood obesity? check. Racism? check. Interracial relations being frowned upon? check. Desperate people trying to figure out if life's worth continuing? check.

These things exist. The manner in which they are discussed may not suit your taste, but the film itself is nicely done, well-crafted, and at least some viewers - like me - can strongly empathize with the characters. Ergo, you have the elements of what Aristotle called 'Katharsis', which is a defining element for art.

You, on the other hand, give no reason for your dumb post. And you can't even come out with films that may be better suited for such a ban, like "Irreversible".

You are a troll. Stop denying it, and be a 'mensch' about it.
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If you wanna talk about movies being banned, some seem to be banned because of political correctness. Song Of The South. You always hear about it but you sure never get the chance to SEE it.
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The great thing about America is that works of art are not banned.
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Originally posted by dom56
Glitter and Gigli should be banned for life.
You can't ban Gigli it works better than Nytol.
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Go watch Passion of the Christ. You see what real voilence is.
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I think all movies starring Adam Sandler, Tom Green, and Jack Black should be banned. They have no redeeming value at all.
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Originally posted by Forum Troll
I think all movies starring Adam Sandler, Tom Green, and Jack Black should be banned. They have no redeeming value at all.
I'd leave the country tomorrow if they banned Punch Drunk Love.
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Re: Should some movies be banned and taken off the market?

Originally posted by orangeguy
Some movies show such terrible Violence and have no redeeming value at all. It seems like they were just made to shock people. I'm talking about movies like Monster,Butterfly Effect,Monster's Ball. I think these movie and other movies like them should be banned. You thoughts?
If you don't like them, then don't watch them. No one is forcing you to do otherwise. Disney has plenty of movies that won't upset you.
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I think you guys scared orangeguy off.
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Originally posted by Suprmallet
The great thing about America is that works of art are not banned.....MOST OF THE TIME

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I don't understand Orangeguy. Therefore, should he be banned?
Old 09-10-04, 08:51 AM
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on a related note... look at the first 2 characters names for the troll.... copyright issue????

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092115/
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kiddie porn and real murder yep goes without saying that needs to be banned

anything else, upto the viewer

before you say Violent films have no redeeming qualities, look at Japan. Has some of the sickest , most violent films around with liberal doses of rape, torture etc but has the lowest crime rate
Maybe many Japanese people use these movies as a form of release so they don't need to commit crimes in real life, just a thought
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Playitagainsam and Suprmallet paralelled my thoughts completely.. unless you have a full concept of films in general, you cant say the ONLY thing these directors were trying to portray was "shock" value.. monster's ball seemed completely realistic to me, it's more like a slap in the face to some. that's the point. a director with a message about all things mentioned above (capital punishment, child obesity, interacial relationships, etc.) that movie was also filled with superb acting..

i thought you were going to list films like audition, i spit on your grave, etc. but butterfly effect? this is like a half teen, half suspense film.. i dont know how shocking that combination should be..

movies being BANNED? for all the freedoms this country stands for, ABSOLUTELY NOT. except for, as mentioned above, child pornography (obviously illegal) should be banned.
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A little history of Orangeguy's posts.

Orangeguy wanted the Punisher to stay with "the Mom and her two boys" at the ending.

Orangeguy thinks all murderers and serial killers aren't responsible for the way they turned out.

Orangeguy had to ask if Torque was a good blind buy.

Orangeguy thinks the Italian Cafe near his house is a front for the mob probably due to an overactive imagination and his love for Goodfellas.
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Originally posted by pro-bassoonist
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When have works of art been banned? Even when people tried to get some work categorized as porn (William S. Burrough's Naked Lunch, Mapplethorpe's nude pictures), the courts resoundly sided with the artists.

Some films have been unable to get distribution, but that's different from banning. Banning means that it is illegal to show a film in the United States. As far as I know, other than kiddie porn and snuff films, there are no films that are illegal to show in the United States.
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No film should be banned (save for the couple exceptions mentioned). the government has no place ordaining artistic expressions on film.

What orange needs is...an understanding first of all what exploitative filmmaking is (monster and MOnster's ball? Talk about horrid examples) and then an understanding of what free speech is, and why it exists. Movies are not something that should be banned. Ever. Ever.
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while we're bitching about what movies should be banned, hell, let's make a list of all those current books that we find offensive and socially dangerous and plan a mass film/book burning...
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Why are people always trying to ban films that offend them?
Next time you plan to watch a movie, read a review before, and if it doesn't fit your "moral code" don't watch it, simple as that.

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