Stephen King's IT (2017, D: Andrés Muschietti)
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I've never seen the original, or read the book, and the new one comes out tomorrow. I'm kind of torn in which order I should proceed.
My friend is a huge King fan and convinced me not to watch the Dark Tower movie, at least until I read the books, which I think was probably solid advice. For "It" though, I dunno, reviews are pretty stellar. I guess I'll wait for more word of mouth before I decide.
My friend is a huge King fan and convinced me not to watch the Dark Tower movie, at least until I read the books, which I think was probably solid advice. For "It" though, I dunno, reviews are pretty stellar. I guess I'll wait for more word of mouth before I decide.
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I'm in the same boat. Never saw the original (only parts of it) and haven't read the book. I like King stuff in general though and definitely plan to see this given the good reviews.
#407
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The book is a pretty quick read. You should be able to pick it up and finish it before seeing the movie tomorrow.
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We'll there's no telling how they split the film as the book isn't evenly split betwee kids/adult portions. The novel bounces back and forth through the entire thing.
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Never cared for the mini-series. Saw it back when it first came out. Generally, made-for-tv movies back then were shit because of tv's limitations. The adult stars were from tv. Special effects were cheap.
Stick with the new one.
Stick with the new one.
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I thought this was amusing. Worth a look.
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Clowns are gearing up to protest ‘It’ over negative clown stereotypes: https://t.co/DJWTlmsVzA pic.twitter.com/FyW8RzGZAF
— VICE (@VICE) September 7, 2017
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Re: Stephen King's IT (2017, D: Andrés Muschietti)
I've never seen the original, or read the book, and the new one comes out tomorrow. I'm kind of torn in which order I should proceed.
My friend is a huge King fan and convinced me not to watch the Dark Tower movie, at least until I read the books, which I think was probably solid advice. For "It" though, I dunno, reviews are pretty stellar. I guess I'll wait for more word of mouth before I decide.
My friend is a huge King fan and convinced me not to watch the Dark Tower movie, at least until I read the books, which I think was probably solid advice. For "It" though, I dunno, reviews are pretty stellar. I guess I'll wait for more word of mouth before I decide.
Better advice on Dark Tower would be "don't go see it until ... well, just don't go see it ever."
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^"All" clown premiere my ass. There are plenty of people in that pic that aren't dressed as clowns. There are also a lot of clowns in that pic that seemingly half-assed their costume.
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Yeah, kind of a letdown. That's just some people that slapped on some makeup just to get into that showing. There's probably only 3-4, what looks like, real clowns in that pic.
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Who are you to deny those who identify as clowns?
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If this was posted before sorry - I found this
I wonder how different it would have been:
September 2015: Fukunaga explains his "quietly acrimonious" exit to Variety, saying "every little thing was being rejected and asked for changes":
“I was trying to make an unconventional horror film. It didn’t fit into the algorithm of what they knew they could spend and make money back on based on not offending their standard genre audience. ... They didn’t care about that. In the first movie, what I was trying to do was an elevated horror film with actual characters. They didn’t want any characters. They wanted archetypes and scares. I wrote the script. They wanted me to make a much more inoffensive, conventional script. But I don’t think you can do proper Stephen King and make it inoffensive. The main difference was making Pennywise more than just the clown. After 30 years of villains that could read the emotional minds of characters and scare them, trying to find really sadistic and intelligent ways he scares children, and also the children had real lives prior to being scared. And all that character work takes time. It’s a slow build, but it’s worth it, especially by the second film. But definitely even in the first film, it pays off. ... Every little thing was being rejected and asked for changes. ... We didn’t want to make the same movie. We’d already spent millions on pre-production. I certainly did not want to make a movie where I was being micro-managed all the way through production, so I couldn’t be free to actually make something good for them. I never desire to screw something up. I desire to make something as good as possible. We invested years and so much anecdotal storytelling in it. Chase and I both put our childhood in that story. So our biggest fear was they were going to take our script and bastardize it. So I’m actually thankful that they are going to rewrite the script. I wouldn’t want them to stealing our childhood memories and using that. I mean, I’m not sure if the fans would have liked what I would had done. I was honoring King’s spirit of it, but I needed to update it. King saw an earlier draft and liked it.”
I wonder how different it would have been:
September 2015: Fukunaga explains his "quietly acrimonious" exit to Variety, saying "every little thing was being rejected and asked for changes":
“I was trying to make an unconventional horror film. It didn’t fit into the algorithm of what they knew they could spend and make money back on based on not offending their standard genre audience. ... They didn’t care about that. In the first movie, what I was trying to do was an elevated horror film with actual characters. They didn’t want any characters. They wanted archetypes and scares. I wrote the script. They wanted me to make a much more inoffensive, conventional script. But I don’t think you can do proper Stephen King and make it inoffensive. The main difference was making Pennywise more than just the clown. After 30 years of villains that could read the emotional minds of characters and scare them, trying to find really sadistic and intelligent ways he scares children, and also the children had real lives prior to being scared. And all that character work takes time. It’s a slow build, but it’s worth it, especially by the second film. But definitely even in the first film, it pays off. ... Every little thing was being rejected and asked for changes. ... We didn’t want to make the same movie. We’d already spent millions on pre-production. I certainly did not want to make a movie where I was being micro-managed all the way through production, so I couldn’t be free to actually make something good for them. I never desire to screw something up. I desire to make something as good as possible. We invested years and so much anecdotal storytelling in it. Chase and I both put our childhood in that story. So our biggest fear was they were going to take our script and bastardize it. So I’m actually thankful that they are going to rewrite the script. I wouldn’t want them to stealing our childhood memories and using that. I mean, I’m not sure if the fans would have liked what I would had done. I was honoring King’s spirit of it, but I needed to update it. King saw an earlier draft and liked it.”
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Bah! With the exception of the colorful clown in the top right corner, I can't tell if that's a photo of the IT showing or an ICP concert!
I'm sorry I demand more from our clown community. Frankly after the clown scares throughout the country over the last couple of years, they should be held to a higher standard!
I'm sorry I demand more from our clown community. Frankly after the clown scares throughout the country over the last couple of years, they should be held to a higher standard!
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