How much money will 'Fahrenheit 911' make?
#76
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Originally posted by LostHiWay
That just doesn't seem possible....even if you say the avg. theater holds 500 people (which is way high for the avg.) it would equal out to almost $19 a ticket. No way!
That just doesn't seem possible....even if you say the avg. theater holds 500 people (which is way high for the avg.) it would equal out to almost $19 a ticket. No way!
You're assuming that each theater only screened the film once on Friday?
Try the math again.....
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does anyone know if The Carlyle Group (Bush Sr. invested/Saudi royal family connections; in the film as well) which just bought the Loews Theatre chain with two private companies will not show the film in Loews theatres?
that could affect the gross immediately
that could affect the gross immediately
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Originally posted by Frank TJ Mackey
does anyone know if The Carlyle Group (Bush Sr. invested/Saudi royal family connections; in the film as well) which just bought the Loews Theatre chain with two private companies will not show the film in Loews theatres?
that could affect the gross immediately
does anyone know if The Carlyle Group (Bush Sr. invested/Saudi royal family connections; in the film as well) which just bought the Loews Theatre chain with two private companies will not show the film in Loews theatres?
that could affect the gross immediately
Plus they list the movie on their website.
http://www.enjoytheshow.com/moviedet...?film_id=41343
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Originally posted by DonnachaOne
Frank, I work at a Loew's. We're showing the film... and it's making money...
... Hell, if I could make money off something bashing me, I'd do it!
Frank, I work at a Loew's. We're showing the film... and it's making money...
... Hell, if I could make money off something bashing me, I'd do it!
The Donnacha Code "How One Person Successfully Persuaded Thousands into Seeing White Chicks over F-911"
Frank TJ Mackey raves "there won't be a better picture all year"
kidding of course
thanks for the info to both of the above posts
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Originally posted by IMRICKJAMES
I dont see it making much more money after the first weekend. Spiderman 2 is coming
I dont see it making much more money after the first weekend. Spiderman 2 is coming
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If this is opened up in more theatres it has a real shot at $100 million. The closest theatre to me showing it is 40 minutes away on an island. On Friday I drove down and it was sold out. I'm trying again today. I must have seen 30 people get turned away just while smoking in front of the theatre.
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Originally posted by IMRICKJAMES
I dont see it making much more money after the first weekend. Spiderman 2 is coming
I dont see it making much more money after the first weekend. Spiderman 2 is coming
Of course Spiderman will dominate the box office next weekend, but that doesn't translate into empty theaters for Fahrenheit 9/11.
Come back here in a month or so, and tell us again how the movie didn't "make much more money after the first weekend".
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for saturday: $7,800,000 -4.9% / $8,986 / $16,158,000
looks like a solid $23 million dollar weekend.....at about $27,000 a screen! crazy insane.
looks like a solid $23 million dollar weekend.....at about $27,000 a screen! crazy insane.
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Weekend...
1 Fahrenheit 9/11 $21,800,000
$21,800,000
2 White Chicks $19,600,000
$27,100,000
3 DodgeBall: A True Underdog Story $18,500,000
$67,171,000
4 The Terminal $13,900,000
$41,805,000
5 N The Notebook $13,025,000
$13,025,000
6 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban $11,420,000
$211,710,000
7 Shrek 2 $10,500,000
$397,066,000
8 Garfield: The Movie $7,000,000
$55,770,000
9 Two Brothers $6,210,000
$6,210,000
10 The Stepford Wives $5,200,000
$49,005,000
1 Fahrenheit 9/11 $21,800,000
$21,800,000
2 White Chicks $19,600,000
$27,100,000
3 DodgeBall: A True Underdog Story $18,500,000
$67,171,000
4 The Terminal $13,900,000
$41,805,000
5 N The Notebook $13,025,000
$13,025,000
6 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban $11,420,000
$211,710,000
7 Shrek 2 $10,500,000
$397,066,000
8 Garfield: The Movie $7,000,000
$55,770,000
9 Two Brothers $6,210,000
$6,210,000
10 The Stepford Wives $5,200,000
$49,005,000
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I never thought i would see the day that a documentry would be the Number one movie in the nation,simply amazing,it has never happened before and will probably never happen again(unless its a michael moore film lol)
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this is like one of the biggest news in the history of movies for a $6mil doc to make this much opening weekend on only 868 theater count!!! why is no one else commenting...this is amazingly huge...even for someone who doesn't really follow all that stuff.
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Top docs...
1 Fahrenheit 9/11 LG/IFC $21,958,000 868 6/23/04
2 Bowling for Columbine UA $21,576,018 10/11/02
3 Winged Migration SPC $11,689,053 4/18/03
4 Super Size Me IDP $9,517,000 5/7/04
5 Hoop Dreams FL $7,830,611 10/14/94
6 Tupac: Resurrection Par. $7,718,961 11/14/03
7 Roger and Me WB $6,706,368 265 12/22/89
8 Spellbound Think $5,728,581 4/30/03
9 Touching the Void IFC $4,593,598 1/23/04
And all these docs? Just as biased and manipulative as 9/11 and COLUMBINE, but nobody bitches about them... Funny how that works.
1 Fahrenheit 9/11 LG/IFC $21,958,000 868 6/23/04
2 Bowling for Columbine UA $21,576,018 10/11/02
3 Winged Migration SPC $11,689,053 4/18/03
4 Super Size Me IDP $9,517,000 5/7/04
5 Hoop Dreams FL $7,830,611 10/14/94
6 Tupac: Resurrection Par. $7,718,961 11/14/03
7 Roger and Me WB $6,706,368 265 12/22/89
8 Spellbound Think $5,728,581 4/30/03
9 Touching the Void IFC $4,593,598 1/23/04
And all these docs? Just as biased and manipulative as 9/11 and COLUMBINE, but nobody bitches about them... Funny how that works.
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I think it's astounding myself, but Moore is so partisan to folks that everyone on this board who doesn't like him is probably keeping their mouths shut while everyone who does is still seeing the movie Actually I plan on seeing the movie tonight.
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Originally posted by Dr. DVD
So is F9/11 now the highest grossing documentary?
So is F9/11 now the highest grossing documentary?
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Originally posted by TomOpus
I was looking at The Numbers website and found the IMAX movie Everest has made $76 million US. Moore's Bowling for Columbine did $40 million.
I was looking at The Numbers website and found the IMAX movie Everest has made $76 million US. Moore's Bowling for Columbine did $40 million.
And COLUMBINE did 130 million in worldwide BO, rentals, and DVD sales.
Yikes!
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Yes, but those others were overall..9/11 is from 1 fregging week!
Anyway,
SOMEBODY MERGE THESE GOD DAMN THREADS ALREADY!! ALL THESE 9/11'S ARE SO FREGGING ANNOYING. THERE ARE OTHER MOVIES AND LIFE OUT THERE!!!!
Anyway,
SOMEBODY MERGE THESE GOD DAMN THREADS ALREADY!! ALL THESE 9/11'S ARE SO FREGGING ANNOYING. THERE ARE OTHER MOVIES AND LIFE OUT THERE!!!!
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Originally posted by TomOpus
I was looking at The Numbers website and found the IMAX movie Everest has made $76 million US. Moore's Bowling for Columbine did $40 million.
I was looking at The Numbers website and found the IMAX movie Everest has made $76 million US. Moore's Bowling for Columbine did $40 million.
That and Touching the Void was far and away the better movie.
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After watching the film on Friday morning I got a prediction in (earlier in this thread) but looking at the numbers, the receipts fell (!) on both Saturday and Sunday - but at the same time the film is expanding the next two weekends so it'll be interesting to see how it does.
That said, responding to the 'rickjames' post, I don't think this film is exactly competing for the same audience as Spiderman 2 so its success or failure next weekend will be because of more important factors.
That said, responding to the 'rickjames' post, I don't think this film is exactly competing for the same audience as Spiderman 2 so its success or failure next weekend will be because of more important factors.
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'Fahrenheit 9/11' Ignites Box Office Passion
by Brandon Gray
June 27, 2004
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/article...d=040627bo.htm
HOLLYWOOD (Box Office Mojo) – Around three million people elected Fahrenheit 9/11 to be the No. 1 movie of America.
Incensing as many as it's entrancing, writer-director Michael Moore's Bush bash celebrated over the weekend with an estimated $21.8 million at 868 theaters, Lions Gate trumpeted on Sunday along with co-distributors IFC Films and the Fellowship Adventure Group -- the latter quickly formed by Miramax chiefs Bob and Harvey Weinstein to release the $6 million picture after buying it back from corporate parent Disney. Less than $10 million was spent on prints and advertising, less than a third of the average Hollywood release.
With $21.958 million in the till since its record-breaking debut in New York City on Wednesday, Fahrenheit 9/11 is already the highest grossing documentary of all time -- excluding large format, concert and other non-"apples-to-apples" sub-genres – surpassing Moore's own Bowling for Columbine's $21.6 million lifetime gross.
Fahrenheit is also the first documentary to land in the weekend top five, let alone be No. 1. Its opening topped Quentin Tarantino's Pulp Fiction's $9.3 million as the best ever for a Cannes Film Festival Palme d'Or winner, and it was Tarantino's jury that handed Moore the prize this year.
Though Fahrenheit's $25,115 per theater average is extraordinary, it's not unprecedented. It ranks as the seventh highest all time for a wide release (adjusting for ticket price inflation knocks it down to no. 28) and the third best this year behind The Passion of the Christ's $27,554 and Shrek 2's $25,951. However, they were super-saturation releases playing at 3,043 and 4,163 theaters respectively -- the lower the theater count, the easier it is to have a high average as the release isn't diluted by less populous locations with lower ticket prices.
Fahrenheit's performance harkens back to the days when big movies wouldn't play in every nook and cranny of the country, but would bow at around 700 or 1,000 theaters to sell out crowds. Perhaps the greatest example of this, Return of the Jedi debuted to $23 million at 1,002 theaters in 1983, which would adjust to $45 million by today's ticket prices. In terms of raw dollars, Fahrenheit is actually the biggest opening ever for a movie playing at less than 1,000 theaters, topping Rocky III's $12.4 million at 939 venues.
Controversy is proving to be bigger business than ever. Prior to this year, it was seen as a way to raise awareness and help bolster a picture to modest returns (Dogma, Last Temptation of Christ). Chatter about its global warming themes didn't hurt The Day After Tomorrow either, which opened beyond expectations and is a solid blockbuster with $175 million to date. But it was Moore and Mel Gibson with The Passion of the Christ who have taken it to the next level: Controversy as saturation marketing campaign.
Though The Passion is perceived as the opposite of Fahrenheit in terms of whom it appeals to, both Moore and Gibson enlisted today's mass media to work for them, knowing that everyone from 24-hour news channels to talk radio would eat up the grand hot topic issues of their movies with the littlest of stoking. Gibson took the more strategic approach with his surgical strike appearances and screenings, but he had months to wage his campaign. Fahrenheit didn't have a release date, let alone a distributor, until a few weeks ago, so Moore and company used the shotgun approach, showing up everywhere and heralding every single development of the movie's progress.
Fahrenheit 9/11 will add theaters next weekend and is scheduled to expand again on July 9.
by Brandon Gray
June 27, 2004
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/article...d=040627bo.htm
HOLLYWOOD (Box Office Mojo) – Around three million people elected Fahrenheit 9/11 to be the No. 1 movie of America.
Incensing as many as it's entrancing, writer-director Michael Moore's Bush bash celebrated over the weekend with an estimated $21.8 million at 868 theaters, Lions Gate trumpeted on Sunday along with co-distributors IFC Films and the Fellowship Adventure Group -- the latter quickly formed by Miramax chiefs Bob and Harvey Weinstein to release the $6 million picture after buying it back from corporate parent Disney. Less than $10 million was spent on prints and advertising, less than a third of the average Hollywood release.
With $21.958 million in the till since its record-breaking debut in New York City on Wednesday, Fahrenheit 9/11 is already the highest grossing documentary of all time -- excluding large format, concert and other non-"apples-to-apples" sub-genres – surpassing Moore's own Bowling for Columbine's $21.6 million lifetime gross.
Fahrenheit is also the first documentary to land in the weekend top five, let alone be No. 1. Its opening topped Quentin Tarantino's Pulp Fiction's $9.3 million as the best ever for a Cannes Film Festival Palme d'Or winner, and it was Tarantino's jury that handed Moore the prize this year.
Though Fahrenheit's $25,115 per theater average is extraordinary, it's not unprecedented. It ranks as the seventh highest all time for a wide release (adjusting for ticket price inflation knocks it down to no. 28) and the third best this year behind The Passion of the Christ's $27,554 and Shrek 2's $25,951. However, they were super-saturation releases playing at 3,043 and 4,163 theaters respectively -- the lower the theater count, the easier it is to have a high average as the release isn't diluted by less populous locations with lower ticket prices.
Fahrenheit's performance harkens back to the days when big movies wouldn't play in every nook and cranny of the country, but would bow at around 700 or 1,000 theaters to sell out crowds. Perhaps the greatest example of this, Return of the Jedi debuted to $23 million at 1,002 theaters in 1983, which would adjust to $45 million by today's ticket prices. In terms of raw dollars, Fahrenheit is actually the biggest opening ever for a movie playing at less than 1,000 theaters, topping Rocky III's $12.4 million at 939 venues.
Controversy is proving to be bigger business than ever. Prior to this year, it was seen as a way to raise awareness and help bolster a picture to modest returns (Dogma, Last Temptation of Christ). Chatter about its global warming themes didn't hurt The Day After Tomorrow either, which opened beyond expectations and is a solid blockbuster with $175 million to date. But it was Moore and Mel Gibson with The Passion of the Christ who have taken it to the next level: Controversy as saturation marketing campaign.
Though The Passion is perceived as the opposite of Fahrenheit in terms of whom it appeals to, both Moore and Gibson enlisted today's mass media to work for them, knowing that everyone from 24-hour news channels to talk radio would eat up the grand hot topic issues of their movies with the littlest of stoking. Gibson took the more strategic approach with his surgical strike appearances and screenings, but he had months to wage his campaign. Fahrenheit didn't have a release date, let alone a distributor, until a few weeks ago, so Moore and company used the shotgun approach, showing up everywhere and heralding every single development of the movie's progress.
Fahrenheit 9/11 will add theaters next weekend and is scheduled to expand again on July 9.
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Originally posted by Bird Jenkins
I agree with Barings that you guys are underestimating the box office potential here.
Every time I turn on Fox News they're talking about it, unwittingly giving it millions of dollars in free publicity. Just like THE PASSION, people are going to see this just to see what all the fuss is about. The Left will go to cheer and the Right will go to jeer. It's a symbiotic relationship.
I'm guessing it'll pull in at least $20 million opening week and I dare say it will go on to become the highest grossing doc of all time. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it breaks the $100 million barrier.
I agree with Barings that you guys are underestimating the box office potential here.
Every time I turn on Fox News they're talking about it, unwittingly giving it millions of dollars in free publicity. Just like THE PASSION, people are going to see this just to see what all the fuss is about. The Left will go to cheer and the Right will go to jeer. It's a symbiotic relationship.
I'm guessing it'll pull in at least $20 million opening week and I dare say it will go on to become the highest grossing doc of all time. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it breaks the $100 million barrier.
The kid's still got it.