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caiman 06-14-04 04:13 PM


Originally posted by Rival11
Little off topic but since it's been mentioned a bunch of times - is Dead Alive scary at all?

It looks freakin' fantastic and it's a cheap buy and I'm in the mood for a SCARY gorefest.

Even if it's not freaky thorughout - how scary is it?

As others have said, no it's not scary, nor is it meant to be. But DO NOT let that keep you from seeing it. It's a damn good movie, and the goriest I've ever seen. (I challenge anyone to name a movie with more gore, because I'd love to see it).

Pac-Rat 06-14-04 05:43 PM


Originally posted by caiman
(I challenge anyone to name a movie with more gore, because I'd love to see it).
Premutos
But it's not on par with Dead Alive in other areas.

To answer the question, and be completely original -Donnie Darko. I just didn't get what the appeal could be, and I generally like "odd" or weird movies.

Rival11 06-14-04 05:49 PM


Originally posted by caiman
As others have said, no it's not scary, nor is it meant to be. But DO NOT let that keep you from seeing it. It's a damn good movie, and the goriest I've ever seen. (I challenge anyone to name a movie with more gore, because I'd love to see it).
Gotcha - I saw the face pull you posted and couldn't get enough of it - the trailer I saw a little while back looked friggin carzy as hell to so I'll give it a shot.

Thanks to you to Rivero - but yeah, my Rushmore comment was true :p

RyoHazuki 06-14-04 07:28 PM


Originally posted by Daytripper
Re: "Donnie Darko". O.K., I can see where some might feel it's overrated. But no way is it a "turd of a movie". It wasn't even the worst film released that week. Until this thread, I've never seen anyone say anything bad about it.
No, it is a turd of a movie, made worse by the ridiculous following it has.

whynotsmile 06-14-04 07:44 PM


Originally posted by Rival11
Gotcha - I saw the face pull you posted and couldn't get enough of it - the trailer I saw a little while back looked friggin carzy as hell to so I'll give it a shot.

Thanks to you to Rivero - but yeah, my Rushmore comment was true :p

just wait till you get to the lawnmower scene...

fumanstan 06-14-04 07:53 PM


Originally posted by Michael Corvin
With nods to Ferris Bueller and Fight Club and Lost in Translation, I think some of us don't know what 'cult' film is. I mean LiT isn't even a year old, how can it possibly have a cult following?

I totally agree with Rushmore.

A "cult" film can be anything with a following... a "cult classic" on the otherhand, like the original poster asked, would be different.

Daytripper 06-14-04 08:05 PM


Originally posted by RyoHazuki
No, it is a turd of a movie, made worse by the ridiculous following it has.
This coming from someone who wants to see "Alien Vs. Predator".

OREOSpeedwagon 06-14-04 08:09 PM

Every time I tell my friend he needs to see Pulp Fiction he tells me "Well, you need to see Rocky Horror Picture Show." This thread just makes me not want to see it even more. I hate cheesy stupid movies that don't make any sense so I don't plan on seeing it any time soon, or ever if I can help it.

RyoHazuki 06-14-04 08:34 PM


Originally posted by Daytripper
This coming from someone who wants to see "Alien Vs. Predator".
What kind of retarded logic is that? I want to see a movie that might suck, so movies that I say suck are actually classics?

Daytripper 06-14-04 08:47 PM


Originally posted by RyoHazuki
What kind of retarded logic is that? I want to see a movie that might suck, so movies that I say suck are actually classics?

Yeah, pretty much.

The Nature Boy 06-14-04 08:55 PM

Rocky Horror = Very Gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but if that's not your cup of tea, I don't think Rocky Horror is the great cinematic ambassador to homosexual culture. But I do think that's what owes a lot of it's cult appeal to, it must have been something quite different for the time.

Oh yeah, almost forgot, if you do check it out, see it at one of the famed midnight showing with audience participation. Definately tedious as a rental, but a bit more lively in person.

Jazzbutcher 06-14-04 09:11 PM

I also think Rushmore sucks nuts. Repo Man, on the other hand, rules. Very quotable.

Maryang Palad 06-14-04 09:35 PM

Brazil is way on top followed by Memento and Bubba Ho-Tep.

Hokeyboy 06-14-04 10:19 PM


Originally posted by RyoHazuki
No, it is a turd of a movie, made worse by the ridiculous following it has.
Dude, when you're done burning down the Reichstag I owe you a beer. Bloody brilliant.


And uh... :mad:

The Nature Boy 06-14-04 10:21 PM

All of the Alejandro Jodorowsky films. Not terrible, but I can't see people enjoying these for much more than camp value.

SweetP 06-14-04 10:45 PM


No, it is a turd of a movie, made worse by the ridiculous following it has.
BWAHHH!!!
Listen kid, the day you stop worshipping that turd-burgler Christopher Lambert is the day I might take that turd of a comment seriously.

Such unwarratented agression torwards "Donnie Darko" leads me to believe you may secretly watch your overplayed "Troop Beverly Hills" video in your footed Tonka pajamas.
But then again, I enjoy a good round of masturbation as I watch my beloved "Xanadu", so who am I to judge?

Hey, who likes Hot Pockets?

xmiyux 06-14-04 10:53 PM


Originally posted by SweetP

Such unwarratented agression torwards "Donnie Darko" leads me to believe you may secretly watch your overplayed "Troop Beverly Hills" video in your footed Tonka pajamas.

Not only does Troop Beverly Hills rule... i would bloody kill for Tonka truck footed pajamas that would fit an adult.

Mountain Biker 06-14-04 11:41 PM


Originally posted by DodgingCars
Maybe it should have asked: Which are most overrated on DVDTalk.

:)


That's an easy one...

Fight Club

SweetP 06-15-04 01:47 AM


Not only does Troop Beverly Hills rule... i would bloody kill for Tonka truck footed pajamas that would fit an adult.
Well then, first you'll have to kill me, xmiyux. 'Cause I ain't parting with my Tonka footies any faster than RyoHazuki plans on parting with his "Highlander" collection, thank you!

Now "Troop Beverly Hills"? No further comment on that from moi.
Any flick that featured the debut of Tori Spelling should be rightfully served as death row punishment. Unless it's that TV movie where she's the bitchy cheerleader and Kelly Martin's the nerdy weirdo who stabs her to death, because that was awesome.
But God forbid you get me on a tangent about the elusive sex appeal of Shelly Long in the midst of her desperate decent into motion picture mediocrity. Bless her heart.

Speaking of motion picture mediocrity, when's "Ishtar" finally getting a DVD release? I wanna see Warren and Dustin boogie down in the dunes again, damnit.

Rivero 06-15-04 07:16 AM


Originally posted by JustInsane
The Triplets of Belleville - biggest piece of stinky crap ever made
Blade Runner - gets worse each time I happen to see it
Rushmore - what the hell was that move?


This deserves a special place in the What the F***? Hall of Fame. Congratulations.

LiquidSky 06-15-04 07:37 AM

Cult films cannot be "overrated" (a term I'm sick of) or "underrated". These are non-mainstream films ("Donnie Darko") or in some cases, mainstream films that went completely wrong perhaps by over-the-top acting, etc. ("Valley of the Dolls", "Mommie Dearest") Others are classic films that were perhaps ahead of their time ("Touch of Evil"), and genre films ("The Evil Dead" films).

Some (not all) of these films have achieved a cult following because they are so bad...but in a very cool/enjoyable way ("Plan 9 From Outer Space").

Personally, I do not believe there are any "overrated"cult films. We all just have different tastes.

Some of my personal favorite "cult" films:

"Freaks"
"Touch of Evil"
"Johnny Guitar"
"Night of the Living Dead" (original)
"Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill!"
"King of Hearts"
"Valley of the Dolls"
"Barbarella"
"Flesh"
"Easy Rider"
"Beyond the Valley of the Dolls"
"Private Parts" (1970s Paul Bartel film...not the Howard Stern film)
"Trash"
"The Rocky Horror Picture Show"
"The Man Who Fell to Earth"
"Rock and Roll High School"
"The Texas Chainsaw Massacre"
"Empire of the Ants"
"Death Race 2000"
"Eraserhead"
"Eating Raoul"
"Dawn of the Dead" (original)
"The Evil Dead"
"Liquid Sky" :D
"Videodrome"
All of John Waters films
Some of Kenneth Anger's films
"Heathers"
"Welcome to the Dollhouse"
"The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert"
"Bottle Rocket"
"Fight Club"
"Donnie Darko"
"Ginger Snaps"
"Bubba Ho Tep"

LiquidSky 06-15-04 07:52 AM


Originally posted by Numanoid
This whole discussion is rather silly. Cult Classics, by definition, appeal to only a select group (you know, the "cult" part). Which naturally means that the majority will not be big fans. If you consider one to be "overrated", I guess that means you just don't happen to be in that particular cult.
Agreed :)

LiquidSky 06-15-04 07:57 AM


Originally posted by RyoHazuki
No, it is a turd of a movie, made worse by the ridiculous following it has.
That is uncalled for. It's ridiculous that other people have different tastes than you?

LiquidSky 06-15-04 08:05 AM


Originally posted by The Nature Boy
Rocky Horror = Very Gay.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, but if that's not your cup of tea, I don't think Rocky Horror is the great cinematic ambassador to homosexual culture. But I do think that's what owes a lot of it's cult appeal to, it must have been something quite different for the time.

Oh yeah, almost forgot, if you do check it out, see it at one of the famed midnight showing with audience participation. Definately tedious as a rental, but a bit more lively in person.

Rocky Horror definitely has a large gay following but has a large straight following as well. I think it appeals to people who love cheesy/cool 1950s science fiction/horror films, and others who perhaps feel cut off from the "mainstream" (gay and straight).

In high school and college, the midnight shows were a great place for me to meet people. I made some cool friends (gay and straight).

JustInsane 06-15-04 08:16 AM


Originally posted by Rivero
This deserves a special place in the What the F***? Hall of Fame. Congratulations.

.........o...............k....................

I would say the same thing about your post.

Trigger 06-15-04 08:20 AM

1. Titanic
2. Spiderman
3. Passion of the Christ
4. Shrek 1 AND 2
5. Lord of the Rings trilogy
6. Star Wars fiveogy
7. Gone with the Wind

Daytripper 06-15-04 08:22 AM


Originally posted by JustInsane
.........o...............k....................

I would say the same thing about your post.


Sorry, the Hall of Fame is all booked up.

Giles 06-15-04 08:57 AM


Originally posted by SweetP


Now "Troop Beverly Hills"? No further comment on that from moi.
Any flick that featured the debut of Tori Spelling should be rightfully served as death row punishment. Unless it's that TV movie where she's the bitchy cheerleader and Kelly Martin's the nerdy weirdo who stabs her to death, because that was awesome.
But God forbid you get me on a tangent about the elusive sex appeal of Shelly Long in the midst of her desperate decent into motion picture mediocrity. Bless her heart.


well now wait a sec, everyone's entitled to their opinion, and you can loathe "Troop Beverly Hills" but I have to chime in here and state that I also enjoyed this film.

Any "Ladybugs" fans here? :D

chanster 06-15-04 09:01 AM


No, it is a turd of a movie, made worse by the ridiculous following it has.
I agree with this sentiment.

LiquidSky 06-15-04 09:30 AM


Originally posted by chanster
I agree with this sentiment.
To use one of YOUR favorite phrases: "give me a break" :rolleyes:

Michael Corvin 06-15-04 09:43 AM

Wow. 5 pages and no one has jumped on Kevin Smith yet. :up:

Trigger 06-15-04 09:44 AM

Chasing Amy

freudguy 06-15-04 09:47 AM

Threads of this kind always seem to illicit reponses by people that think they have better taste than others and seem to feel a need to tell them about it. You don't like a movie that I like? Fine. However, don't tell me or others that my taste is inferior to yours. When you do, any credibility you may have in the eyes of others is diminished by your own film-snobbery (even if someone agrees with you).

Giles 06-15-04 09:47 AM


Originally posted by Trigger
Chasing Amy
thank you Trigger - :)

Rivero 06-15-04 11:34 AM

Clerks
Chasing Amy

the big train 06-15-04 12:03 PM


Originally posted by LiquidSky
Cult films cannot be "overrated" (a term I'm sick of) or "underrated".
I agree with this. I prefer to use the term "overhyped."


However, I also agree that Donnie Darko is a turd. :D








and I am a big Troop Beverly Hills and Ladybugs fan :blush:

Giles 06-15-04 12:09 PM


Originally posted by the big train


and I am a big Troop Beverly Hills and Ladybugs fan :blush:

hooray!

the big train 06-15-04 12:12 PM

Yeah, we'll see how far that gets me!

LiquidSky 06-15-04 12:25 PM


Originally posted by the big train
and I am a big Troop Beverly Hills fan :blush:
"....attention K-Mart shoppers......" :)

Daytripper 06-15-04 01:05 PM


Originally posted by the big train
Yeah, we'll see how far that gets me!
How about the Hall of Shame? ;) Was your response for admitting you like "Troop Beverly Hills" and "Ladybugs"? If so, to each his own. Just like freudguy said, one can disagree without trying to make the other feel inferior. Or saying the movie is a turd.


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