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My eyeballs hurt after trying to watch this film. It's one thing to try to go "gritty" when the scene deserves it, but the quick cuts and over-saturation, and flashes of brightness was simply overused, and I just zoned out of the film, so I can't quite recommend the film. Plus it's ponderous and long when it didn't necessarily had to be so.
I give it 2 stars or a grade of C (if you can withstand the super-distracting footage inserted all over this film).
I give it 2 stars or a grade of C (if you can withstand the super-distracting footage inserted all over this film).
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Originally posted by Patman
I give it 2 stars or a grade of C (if you can withstand the super-distracting footage inserted all over this film).
I give it 2 stars or a grade of C (if you can withstand the super-distracting footage inserted all over this film).
Why two grades for everything?
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Originally posted by scott shelton
I'll repost my earlier question from another thread:
Why two grades for everything?
I'll repost my earlier question from another thread:
Why two grades for everything?
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I liked it. I will give it a thumbs up, B+ and a 4/5 I will also give it a "Hot" and a "See it" I may even go on to say that it is "fresh"
Now since I finished giving it all those ratings let me explain. It has a good build up. You get to feel for the guy and you see the bond between body gaurd and cilent grow and you feel for the guy. When shit goes down you know why he is the way he is and you see the level of saddistic glee in his actions. The end out come is expected and it works. It's good entertainment and it has a few turns here and there that you didn't expect.
The style works at times and other times it doesn't. This has a lot of MTV style editing mixed in with the score mix. At times the quick camera work gets a little over used but it does play an effect to making the audiance uneasy. At times it works, at times it feels like you are about to have a seizure. Even the subtitles are thrown in with a sort of MTV music video attitude.
Over all, I enjoyed it. Lots of guns, explosions and a story you can enjoy following.
Now since I finished giving it all those ratings let me explain. It has a good build up. You get to feel for the guy and you see the bond between body gaurd and cilent grow and you feel for the guy. When shit goes down you know why he is the way he is and you see the level of saddistic glee in his actions. The end out come is expected and it works. It's good entertainment and it has a few turns here and there that you didn't expect.
The style works at times and other times it doesn't. This has a lot of MTV style editing mixed in with the score mix. At times the quick camera work gets a little over used but it does play an effect to making the audiance uneasy. At times it works, at times it feels like you are about to have a seizure. Even the subtitles are thrown in with a sort of MTV music video attitude.
Over all, I enjoyed it. Lots of guns, explosions and a story you can enjoy following.
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Originally posted by UKingdom
the first half i hear is slow exposition, and the 2nd half is denzel going on a badass rampage, high body count
if anyone's got spoiler tags for how he dispatches with the baddies it would be appreciated.
here's one for starters:
the first half i hear is slow exposition, and the 2nd half is denzel going on a badass rampage, high body count
if anyone's got spoiler tags for how he dispatches with the baddies it would be appreciated.
here's one for starters:
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As far as how Denzel dispatches of the baddies, here's what I remember.
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
I liked it. I will give it a thumbs up, B+ and a 4/5 I will also give it a "Hot" and a "See it" I may even go on to say that it is "fresh"
I liked it. I will give it a thumbs up, B+ and a 4/5 I will also give it a "Hot" and a "See it" I may even go on to say that it is "fresh"
I enjoyed it, too. I can see this film not being someone's cup of tea, but calling it "terrible on many levels" and then leaving it at that (like one poster did) seems very unfounded to me.
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Originally posted by Corvin
I don't think he is posting two grades, but rather giving the same grade in two different ways.
I don't think he is posting two grades, but rather giving the same grade in two different ways.
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Originally posted by Phyre
It is terrible on many levels, it is essentially The Punisher with a different aesthetic and even more blatantly wears its heart on its shoulder. What a waste of talent.
It is terrible on many levels, it is essentially The Punisher with a different aesthetic and even more blatantly wears its heart on its shoulder. What a waste of talent.
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Saw it yesterday. Really good. Wasn't quite as good as I'd hoped it too be but my expectations were set too high. The death quota wasn't really as huge as the trailer suggested. The editing was kind of annoying but some of it worked. For example
worked well I thought. Denzel, Dakota, and Walken all did very well but I wish the last two were in the movie more.
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Originally posted by Corvin
I don't think he is posting two grades, but rather giving the same grade in two different ways.
I don't think he is posting two grades, but rather giving the same grade in two different ways.
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Originally posted by scott shelton
Did you honestly not understand what I was going for?
Did you honestly not understand what I was going for?
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Now, THAT is how you make a revenge movie. Say it with me , people : E M O T I O N. It makes you care for the people in this story, and it makes you savagely cheer on the violence of Creasy in the second half. We spend the first half getting to know Creasy and Pita ( both Washington and Fanning were marvelous in the roles ), and witness the effect they have on each other. Then, when she's kidnapped and
, Creasy's rampage is brutal and satisfying. Then, like a punch to the gut, we find out that
. Wasn't expecting that. The scene where
couldn't have been more beautiful. I liked the jarring camera work and quick edits because it conveyed the sense of chaos and madness is must be like to live through a situtation like this. Scott's work has been " good " to " mediocre " in the past, but I think he hit it out of the park with this one. The score was haunting and fit perfectly with the tone of the story. Washington took this role and nailed it, like he does every movie he's in. The best performance I've seen this year. Radha Mitchell's southern accent came and went, and I didn't really buy the fact that
. Other than that, a superb film. Grade : A - .
" I'm going home, too " .
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I really liked this movie. The acting from everyone was superb though Mitchell's on-again off-again accent drove me a bit nuts. The movie was a bit long but like someone else mentioned, I'm not sure what I would cut to make it shorter. Very stylized which I think worked better in some scenes than in others. I especially liked the subtitle usage throughout since they were in Mexico so it makes sense that people are speaking Spanish.
The one thing I really liked was:
Supreme Sean, I have to disagree with you on one point
The one thing I really liked was:
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Supreme Sean, I have to disagree with you on one point
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Did anyone else think the ending would of been more effective if
? I felt the tension building up for that moment but it never came. Instead we were given a more subtle and laid back conclusion.
I do however think this movie is far from a half a star out of five in which Alley Hector had given it. Actually I found most of that review rather lacking in comparison to her other reviews (which I enjoy reading). It just felt close minded, as if the person's only reason to watch this movie was to find things wrong with it. Such as the following remark, I found it to be a rather longshot to degrade this movie.
There is nothing in this movie I would consider extraneous... unlike another Denzel movie "He Got Game" in which there were a lot of unnecessary nude/sex scenes. Give me a break.
Is the movie cliche, yes... groundbreaking to its genre, no... is it half star gutter trash as presented in the review, not at all.
And if you're going to quote Walken, at least make sure you know the line. "Creasy's art is death, he's about to paint his masterpiece"
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I do however think this movie is far from a half a star out of five in which Alley Hector had given it. Actually I found most of that review rather lacking in comparison to her other reviews (which I enjoy reading). It just felt close minded, as if the person's only reason to watch this movie was to find things wrong with it. Such as the following remark, I found it to be a rather longshot to degrade this movie.
several extraneous boob shots, bikini shots, and sex scenes
Is the movie cliche, yes... groundbreaking to its genre, no... is it half star gutter trash as presented in the review, not at all.
And if you're going to quote Walken, at least make sure you know the line. "Creasy's art is death, he's about to paint his masterpiece"
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Originally posted by Depression
Did anyone else think the ending would of been more effective if
? I felt the tension building up for that moment but it never came. Instead we were given a more subtle and laid back conclusion.
I do however think this movie is far from a half a star out of five in which Alley Hector had given it. Actually I found most of that review rather lacking in comparison to her other reviews (which I enjoy reading). It just felt close minded, as if the person's only reason to watch this movie was to find things wrong with it. Such as the following remark, I found it to be a rather longshot to degrade this movie.
There is nothing in this movie I would consider extraneous... unlike another Denzel movie "He Got Game" in which there were a lot of unnecessary nude/sex scenes. Give me a break.
Is the movie cliche, yes... groundbreaking to its genre, no... is it half star gutter trash as presented in the review, not at all.
And if you're going to quote Walken, at least make sure you know the line. "Creasy's art is death, he's about to paint his masterpiece"
Did anyone else think the ending would of been more effective if
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I do however think this movie is far from a half a star out of five in which Alley Hector had given it. Actually I found most of that review rather lacking in comparison to her other reviews (which I enjoy reading). It just felt close minded, as if the person's only reason to watch this movie was to find things wrong with it. Such as the following remark, I found it to be a rather longshot to degrade this movie.
There is nothing in this movie I would consider extraneous... unlike another Denzel movie "He Got Game" in which there were a lot of unnecessary nude/sex scenes. Give me a break.
Is the movie cliche, yes... groundbreaking to its genre, no... is it half star gutter trash as presented in the review, not at all.
And if you're going to quote Walken, at least make sure you know the line. "Creasy's art is death, he's about to paint his masterpiece"
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I really liked the movie, but to me, there were too many plot holes. Well, I don't know if plot holes are the right words, but things that bothered me.
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