Matrix 2/3 Unnecessary Scenes?
 

Hey guys. Now that Reloaded and Revolutions are both out on DVD I wanted to create a playlist so I could watch both movies while skipping over the scenes that most people think are unnecessary or cringeworthy. So what do you guys think I should skip over? I'm sure everyone is going to say the rave scene. After seeing Revolutions I thought that so much of Reloaded seemed wasteful, but I can't remember much of it now.
I don't want anyone to think I think that I could come up with a better version of these movies, I just thought this would be an interesting little excercise.

can't say I think this is a good idea.

Let's split the series up into three chapters just for the sake of this thread:

1. The Matrix
2. The Matrix: Reloaded
3. The Matrix: Revolutions

Skip chapters 2 and 3.

I agree, this thread is gonna be a problem. Any bets on how long this thread will be?

skip scenes? what's the point in watching it? i mean if you can't set aside a few hours to watch the entire film there's no point. especially with these films

Just watch the damn movies.

The movies make little sense as is.. I wouldn't imagine cutting out any more causing more confussion.

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Agreed!

I was thinking about this when reading the "is Revolutions really that bad" thread. I would love to see a phantom edit of Reloaded/Revolutions into one single movie.

Working off from memory here is what I would cut:

Reloaded:

Rave scene/love scene

Cut down morpheus' speech

A big chunk of the frenchman dinner scene

The Neo/Monica Bellucci kissing scene, just cut to her betraying the frenchman

Cut down the burly brawl scene, others liked it, I didn't get into it and it was too long.

Revolutions:

The train station limbo scenes

In fact the whole never explained, manufactured cliffhanger, Neo can enter the matrix remotely aspect. They never encounter the sentinels at the end of Reloaded, and for the final ride to the center of the matrix he is jacked in yet conscious in the real world. Unfortunately you would loose the weapons check fight scene, which would suck, but loosing the pointless second meeting with the frenchman would be worth it.

You could perhaps trim down some of of the battle sequences, but I can't think of a single major cut elsewhere. I'm sure if I had seen the movie more than once I could.

what psychlowne said.

Naw, skip chapters 1 and 2

I feel dirty. I liked all three.

I'm with the watch them together camp. But I liked the movies so...who knows. I really don't think The Matrix Reedit needs to exist...at most, you'd just be trimming some of the speeches and the beginning scenes in Zion. You'd still have a 4 hour movie though. Either that or a movie that doesn't make any sense.

And don't start the "but these movies don't make sense anyway!" bit. They do to me and many others. If you're truly bored, just hit chapter skip to the action scenes. Otherwise watch it all.

I'm sure 3 will make as much sense as it did even if you didn't watch 1 and 2.

"Neo can enter the matrix remotely aspect. "

Remember in the first film when Morpheus told Neo that the man that originally freed them could move in and out of the Matrix on his own? Thats what Neo can do. Its just not explained why.

Watch them all. Director's vision and all :)

That's one hell of a sig you got there.

For Reloaded...

Really liked it, except for the burly brawl and semi-truck explosion. The burly brawl had soem neato fight choreography, but the effects just tore me away from the movie. It's like they just didn't have enough time to make it look remotely realistic. For the explosion, it was an excellent, exciting idea. But the shot was just bad. I prefer to close my eyes during those few second, and imagine a better shot.

For Revolutions...

It was just a pretty bad movie overall. I don't think I'll even be 'completing the trilogy' by buying the DVD.

They could have trimmed off a good five minutes of the mech soldiers yelling at the top of their lungs as they shoot. And having a mech hold a gun gansta' style? Silly idea.

"It is done". UGH! I really, really wanted to let out a really loud 'guff' [to a point where the sold-out crowd could have heard] when I heard that.

The train station scene was actually my favorite in Revolutions.

I agree that the trainstation scene in Revolutions was pretty good up until that hobo guy.

You could probably cut Trinity's death scene in half and trim half an hour from the thrid one easy.

There are no pointless scenes...thats what I love about these movies...everything means something and has a reason for being...and skipping parts in a movie shows a complete and utter disrespect to the filmmaker...DONT DO IT!

That's not what Morpheus said in the first film. From the first film:
There's nothing in there about the other "One" being able to remote hack into the Matrix.

What you could do is this, don't watch the 2nd or 3rd movie, and then make up the rest of the story with shadow puppets on the wall in your bedroom. It would make much more sense then, because you were the one making it up as you went along, instead of the directors.

I just watched all 3 back to back yesterday. I love all 3 movies but I can see why most don't. A lot of things do drag on... mostly in reloaded. There's too many kung fu scenes. The fighting 1000 smiths scene should be at least half as long as it is. the frenchman goon squad fight should also be cut in half. If Neo is such a badass, why does it take so long for him to beat the bad guys? The whole meeting with the frenchman just drags and drags. The rave/love scene is ok but not totally necessary. In revolutions, the whole train station thing seems kind of a waste. They could have trimmed out a lot of crap and just had 2 shorter films maybe with revolutions starting closer to the big war scene (which is prolly one of the coolest sci fi battle scenes ever).