[POLL] Arnold's Replacement
Out of the many wanna be's that seem to be clamoring to take over as the next uber action star, who will actually pull it off?
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Charlie Sheen rotfl
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Will Smith already IS an uber action star, but he's not the next "Arnold."
I wouldn't say Hugh Jackman, either, because he's been doing non-action stuff, as well. I would say that Vin Deisel is trying to be the next Arnold, but he's failing. |
I'm still waiting for the next good action star. None of those guys have made a great movie (i.e. Die Hard, T2, First Blood, Dirty Harry) to push them over the hump of average action movie guy.
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The Rock. I really enjoyed The Run Down
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The Rock
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The rundown and walking tall are two great examples why the rock has that charm arnold had back in his early days.
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton The rundown and walking tall are two great examples why the rock has that charm arnold had back in his early days. |
Yup, after watching 'The Rundown', I've got to say The Rock.
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I really enjoyed Walking Tall....and I've never been a big fan of The Rock.
I may even go see it again. |
Phanom Yeerum.... or at least if I had my way he would be
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Ok, who voted for Ben Affleck. Seriously, just step forward and admit it...we won't hurt you too badly.
Heh, regardless, it absolutely is The Rock. He's got charisma, he's fun to watch, and he can carry a movie. Is he an amazing actor? No, but he's a lot of fun. And moreso than any other person making movies, you REALLY buy the fact that this man could whoop the living daylights out of the people he's beating the crap out of. What Rock needs is a really great movie. Rundown was solid entertainment, but I think the Rock needs to lose the softened image and go all out. I love the fact he's sticking to a more 70s 80s asthetic with his films, but he needs to go the route of Arnold and give us some rollickin good R rated action flicks. Honestly the idea of Rock doing a Predator 3 is fabulous. IF they could make a good movie, that would be a great start. Set it in the middle east, and let's have a duel. Skip Terminator (come on, that one is Arnie's leave it alone). But he needs to get into R rated territory. I understand he has some strange need to appeal to everyone, but he's an action star. And action stars really don't need to be held back by the almighty pg-13. I know, I know, R rating doesn't = better. But when the point of the movie is to see one man beatup, maim, kill, decapitate, and all out destroy everyone else, you need to give us what we want. So Rock...give us that insanely cool action movie we want! But he's definately got whatever it is to be the next great action star. Here's hoping his movies do better BO wise so he gets to stick around. |
I think The Rock himself would be hesitant to star in an R-rated picture. I think I read on IGN that he realized a lot of his fans were younger and was still looking to cater to them. Did a little looking, here's the quote:
Despite the abundance of fisticuffs in Walking Tall, The Rock asserted that he enjoys tailoring his films for an adolescent-friendly audience to avoid alienating the core of his fan base. "If you're able to capture the story, to keep it PG-13 is really important because I've got a lot young fans out there and I realize that." Then again, it's hard to say no when the money is in front of your face. |
There was actually a discussion on NPR last year, I believe, that talked about Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone future replacements in the action world. The film critics mentioned Vin Diesel and (I think) the Rock.
Cheers :beer: DVD Smurf :) |
Van Diesel isn't worth the title. His works seem to fall flat. He just doesn't have the charm to carry it.
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The Rock has charisma and is actually a really nice guy. He will be the next Arnie and he actually has better comedic timing than Ahnuld.
Diesel just comes off as a tough guy with no real appeal. He seems to be full of himself. But he seems to be a more believable actor. |
Originally posted by Corvin I think The Rock himself would be hesitant to star in an R-rated picture. I think I read on IGN that he realized a lot of his fans were younger and was still looking to cater to them. Did a little looking, here's the quote: Despite the abundance of fisticuffs in Walking Tall, The Rock asserted that he enjoys tailoring his films for an adolescent-friendly audience to avoid alienating the core of his fan base. "If you're able to capture the story, to keep it PG-13 is really important because I've got a lot young fans out there and I realize that." Then again, it's hard to say no when the money is in front of your face. |
Definitely The Rock, though he does need to get into some R-rated stuff.
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Originally posted by jaeufraser What Rock needs is a really great movie. Rundown was solid entertainment, but I think the Rock needs to lose the softened image and go all out. I love the fact he's sticking to a more 70s 80s asthetic with his films, but he needs to go the route of Arnold and give us some rollickin good R rated action flicks. The problem is - he *REALLY* needs to get away from Vince McMahon's clutches. He will never really shine as a actor until then. Also - for further discussion: is the era of the Big Action Movie Star over? The 80's is undeniably the Golden Age of Action Movies - but it's time unfortunately is over. Is it possible for a star to hit the heights of someone in the 80's these days? Can the Rock ever be as big as Ah-nold was at the height of his powers? |
Well, the Rock sucks. So not him. Rundown bombed and now Walking Tall looks like it's headed for bomb city as well, unless it has some serious legs. So he won't see one tenth the success Arnold did. His starring roles are going to dry up because none of his movies have really been successful. Scorpion King was decent, but by no means hugely successful. I just don't think the general movie-going public wants to see a movie with a wrestler as the main star. Only wrestling fans and Rock fans are interested.
Hugh Jackman is the best out of all of those, but he's not just an action star. I'd have to say nobody on that list. Vin Diesel's 15 minutes of fame are almost up. I'm still trying to figure out how he got 15 minutes of fame to begin with. |
Originally posted by Jackskeleton The rundown and walking tall are two great examples why the rock has that charm arnold had back in his early days. |
Originally posted by Jackskeleton ...charm arnold had back in his early days. Terminator charming? You gotta be kidding me... :) Maybe in Twins and Kindergarten Cop... :) But he certainly had a presence in front of the camera... |
Ughh, more people are starting to like "The Rock". What's this world coming to? Oh, and Arnold is way cooler than Rock will ever be.
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Originally posted by NaturalMystic79 Ughh, more people are starting to like "The Rock". What's this world coming to? It must be the apocalypse! |
Originally posted by DVD Smurf Conan charming? Terminator charming? You gotta be kidding me... :) Maybe in Twins and Kindergarten Cop... :) But he certainly had a presence in front of the camera... All roles that have charm, wit, charisma, and :cool: -ness oozing out of it. Arnold has on screen pressence and it shows. The Rock has the same type of "charm" |
The Riddick movie coming up with Vin looks pretty good though.
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The Rock, hands down.
Diesel is too boring and too serious to be in the same league as Arnold. The rest are more diverse actors. |
Originally posted by jasonbird The Riddick movie coming up with Vin looks pretty good though. Jason |
I don't think any of those actors can replace Arnold. They may have their own followers but they don't come even close to Arnold.
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Originally posted by Terrell Well, the Rock sucks. So not him. Rundown bombed and now Walking Tall looks like it's headed for bomb city as well, unless it has some serious legs. So he won't see one tenth the success Arnold did. His starring roles are going to dry up because none of his movies have really been successful. Scorpion King was decent, but by no means hugely successful. I just don't think the general movie-going public wants to see a movie with a wrestler as the main star. Only wrestling fans and Rock fans are interested. Hugh Jackman is the best out of all of those, but he's not just an action star. I'd have to say nobody on that list. Vin Diesel's 15 minutes of fame are almost up. I'm still trying to figure out how he got 15 minutes of fame to begin with. Here is a listing of Arnolds major movies. You say The Rock won't have a 10th of the success Arnold had at the box office based on the performances of Scorpian King, Rundown, and Walking Tall, but Arnold did not really have a major success until Total Recall and Twins. They were released 8 years and 6 years into his major film carear. Now, in hindsight, Terminator, Commando, Conan, Running Man, and Predator, are hits, but at the time they did not do very well at the box office. In 22 years Arnold has only had 7 100 million dollar movies, which is alot, but I think most people assume he has had alot more. ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER Date Title Studio Total Gross / Theaters Opening / Theaters 7/2/03 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines WB $143,683,380 3,504 $44,041,440 3,504 2/8/02 Collateral Damage WB $40,077,257 2,824 $15,058,432 2,824 11/17/00 The 6th Day Sony $34,604,280 2,516 $13,020,883 2,516 11/24/99 End of Days Uni. $66,889,043 2,652 $20,523,595 2,593 6/20/97 Batman & Robin WB $107,325,195 2,942 $42,872,606 2,934 11/22/96 Jingle All the Way Fox $60,592,389 2,404 $12,112,267 2,401 6/21/96 Eraser WB $101,295,562 2,556 $24,566,446 2,410 11/23/94 Junior Uni. $36,763,355 1,896 $9,803,145 1,749 7/15/94 True Lies Fox $146,282,411 2,561 $25,869,770 2,368 6/18/93 Last Action Hero Col. $50,016,394 2,339 $15,338,241 2,306 7/3/91 Terminator 2: Judgment Day TriS $204,843,345 2,495 $31,765,506 2,274 12/22/90 Kindergarten Cop Uni. $91,457,688 1,934 $11,260,685 1,833 6/1/90 Total Recall TriS $119,394,840 2,131 $25,533,700 2,060 12/9/88 Twins Uni. $111,938,388 1,659 $11,174,980 1,396 6/17/88 Red Heat TriS $34,994,648 1,892 $8,133,822 1,885 11/13/87 The Running Man TriS $38,122,105 1,694 $8,117,465 1,692 6/12/87 Predator Fox $59,735,548 1,636 $12,031,638 1,623 6/6/86 Raw Deal DEG $16,209,459 1,733 $5,438,978 1,731 10/4/85 Commando Fox $35,100,000 1,504 $7,700,015 1,495 7/5/85 Red Sonja MGM $6,945,633 1,091 $2,263,553 1,091 10/26/84 The Terminator Ori. $38,371,200 1,112 $4,020,663 1,005 6/29/84 Conan the Destroyer Uni. $31,042,035 1,249 $6,958,872 1,117 5/14/82 Conan the Barbarian Uni. $39,565,475 1,683 $9,603,139 1,395 |
Vin Diesel will be the next Arnold. Hugh Jackman will be the next Harrison Ford. The Rock will be the next Van Damme.
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Originally posted by Bcolon Here is a listing of Arnolds major movies. You say The Rock won't have a 10th of the success Arnold had at the box office based on the performances of Scorpian King, Rundown, and Walking Tall, but Arnold did not really have a major success until Total Recall and Twins. They were released 8 years and 6 years into his major film carear. Now, in hindsight, Terminator, Commando, Conan, Running Man, and Predator, are hits, but at the time they did not do very well at the box office. In 22 years Arnold has only had 7 100 million dollar movies, which is alot, but I think most people assume he has had alot more. ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER Date Title Studio Total Gross / Theaters Opening / Theaters 7/2/03 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines WB $143,683,380 3,504 $44,041,440 3,504 2/8/02 Collateral Damage WB $40,077,257 2,824 $15,058,432 2,824 11/17/00 The 6th Day Sony $34,604,280 2,516 $13,020,883 2,516 11/24/99 End of Days Uni. $66,889,043 2,652 $20,523,595 2,593 6/20/97 Batman & Robin WB $107,325,195 2,942 $42,872,606 2,934 11/22/96 Jingle All the Way Fox $60,592,389 2,404 $12,112,267 2,401 6/21/96 Eraser WB $101,295,562 2,556 $24,566,446 2,410 11/23/94 Junior Uni. $36,763,355 1,896 $9,803,145 1,749 7/15/94 True Lies Fox $146,282,411 2,561 $25,869,770 2,368 6/18/93 Last Action Hero Col. $50,016,394 2,339 $15,338,241 2,306 7/3/91 Terminator 2: Judgment Day TriS $204,843,345 2,495 $31,765,506 2,274 12/22/90 Kindergarten Cop Uni. $91,457,688 1,934 $11,260,685 1,833 6/1/90 Total Recall TriS $119,394,840 2,131 $25,533,700 2,060 12/9/88 Twins Uni. $111,938,388 1,659 $11,174,980 1,396 6/17/88 Red Heat TriS $34,994,648 1,892 $8,133,822 1,885 11/13/87 The Running Man TriS $38,122,105 1,694 $8,117,465 1,692 6/12/87 Predator Fox $59,735,548 1,636 $12,031,638 1,623 6/6/86 Raw Deal DEG $16,209,459 1,733 $5,438,978 1,731 10/4/85 Commando Fox $35,100,000 1,504 $7,700,015 1,495 7/5/85 Red Sonja MGM $6,945,633 1,091 $2,263,553 1,091 10/26/84 The Terminator Ori. $38,371,200 1,112 $4,020,663 1,005 6/29/84 Conan the Destroyer Uni. $31,042,035 1,249 $6,958,872 1,117 5/14/82 Conan the Barbarian Uni. $39,565,475 1,683 $9,603,139 1,395 So Total Recall's $119 million would be more like a $210 million gross today. Predator would be about $115 million, etc. |
Arnold all but passed the torch to The Rock in The Rundown when he passed by him in a split-second cameo and said "Have a good time." It was a nice moment from one action hero to another.
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I'm gonna go with The Rock on this one.
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The Rock.
Did anyone see the E! story on The Rock? I guess Arnold was on the set of The Rundown for some reason, and they asked if he would like to be in a scene - he agreed. So in the very beginning, The Rock passes Arnold in the nightclub and Arnold says "have fun". Some saw it as Arnold passing The Rock the torch. Thank you, The Pebble EDIT: Just read jough's post only 2 before mine! |
It pains me, but I have to say "The Rock" for two reasons.
1. I finally saw "The Rundown" out of boredom the other day and I realized that it was actually pretty good for a popcorn flick. Rock has screen presence, the action moves, and most importantly as a "Arnold replacement" comedic timing. Let's face it, Arnold would have been just another muscle man if he didn't give that funny spark he lent to almost every one of his roles. 2. Rock is BIG. There have been plenty of action stars, each with there own gimmick. The reason people watch Arnold was to see a really BIG guy kick the shit out of people and places. The Rock is the only one who has that potential. If you were talking about replacing Sly or Van Dam I may think of someone else. |
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