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Old 03-03-04, 10:46 AM
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Bill Murray: Sore Loser?

From the IMDB, so take it with a grain of salt:

Actor Bill Murray shocked guests at Sunday night's Academy Awards - when he refused to clap as rival nominee Sean Penn was named Best Actor. The Lost In Translation star looked annoyed when Nicole Kidman announced Penn had won for his performance in Mystic River. According to British newspaper The Sun, Murray later shouted at organizers, "If I knew this was going to happen, I wouldn't have bothered coming." The 53-year-old comedian has made no secret of his dislike of award ceremonies, and didn't show up to collect the Best Actor award at London's BAFTAs last month. Murray has said, "Awards are meaningless to me, and I have nothing but disdain for anyone who actively campaigns to get one. It's a really unattractive sight to see an actor or actress who really wants an Oscar. And you often see it on the show - you see their faces and the desperation is so ugly."
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I'm not sure how much is true, but whatever Murray was doing prompted Billy Crystal to say "Please stay, Bill...we love you!" after Penn picked up the award.
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You'd think someone who disdains awards so much wouldn't be pissy because he didn't win one.
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Bill was visibly upset...but no more than Burt Reynolds was a few years ago when Robin Williams won for Good Will Hunting (Reynolds was up for "Boogie Nights").

As for people campaigning for an award - this might be true, but nobody's going to accuse Sean Penn of campaigning...he's missed just as many (if not more) awards shows than Murray this year.

BTW, I don't think he "refused" to clap...he was probably just a little in shock. As for his comments to the organizers, they are probably taken out of context or were stated in a sarcastic way.

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So... awards mean nothing, but Bill is upset... hmmm..

Ok.

I like Bill, but he sounds like an ass if that is true.
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Bill needs to chill out and rock to "I'm All Right" for a few hours. It'll clear his head.
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If this is true, I'm sure it's Murray just being funny. It seems his humour gets more and more dry and sarcastic as he gets older.
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Sounds like Sour Grapes.

Penn deserved the win. I loved LiT, but Penn's performance greatly topped Murray's IMO.
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lol I thought that when they cut to his face..
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I think Penn did give the better performance, I for all we know Murray might get one for Life Aquatica if he is in it. (I think he is, isn't he?)
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Eh, half the time IMDB's stuff is full of shit anyway. I consider them as reliable a news source as The National Enquirer. Murray wasn't happy I imagine, but I can't see him shouting at people like they said.
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I welcome this. In a race close as this, there HAS to be dissappointment, and I positively detest when another actor who's never won the award, flashes a bigh smile upon not hearing is name and goes into an overproductive pantomine of applause. It's OK to feel slighted, it's even human. I wouldn't go so far as to call it classy, but I don't hold it against him or anyone else when they chose humanity over a show.
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I'm sure he'll win sometime in the next couple of years, for a film nowhere near Lost In Translation in quality, beating a superior performance by someone else, who will have to wait until the NEXT year to get theirs.
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Kinda like Russell Crowe ...
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Originally posted by Patman
Kinda like Russell Crowe ...
I kinda like Russell Crowe too. But I really like the old chicken mc-nuggets. It was fun predicting how many dark meat nuggets I would get when I ordered a 6 piece. All white meat nuggets suck.
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Originally posted by Dr. DVD
I think Penn did give the better performance, I for all we know Murray might get one for Life Aquatica if he is in it. (I think he is, isn't he?)
Not only is he in it, but he's the lead. However, I heard he fired his agent over the role, and he's not too happy with it. Again, take this with a grain of salt.
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I thought the firing the agent remark was a joke he made in some acceptance speech.
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It would be silly for Murray to fire his agent over Life Aquatic, he said he would work with Wes Anderson for free. I bet his agent had nothing to do with it, if anything his agent didn't want him to take the role so he fired him.

I'm sure Murray will win an Oscar sometime, but he probably won't be as great as he was in LiT.
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It would be silly for Murray to fire his agent over Life Aquatic, he said he would work with Wes Anderson for free. I bet his agent had nothing to do with it, if anything his agent didn't want him to take the role so he fired him.

I'm sure Murray will win an Oscar sometime, but he probably won't be as great as he was in LiT.
I completely agree.
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Eh, half the time IMDB's stuff is full of shit anyway.
You're being kind...
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I think Murray was still in his LIT character during the Oscar show - a little depressed and lifeworn, disappointed but resigned...and didn't care if his true feelings showed through. He actually might have been the only person NOT "acting" that night.
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Originally posted by Groucho
Not only is he in it, but he's the lead. However, I heard he fired his agent over the role, and he's not too happy with it. Again, take this with a grain of salt.
He has an agent? I think that's what really costed him the vote. The Campaigning that focus features can do and being unrepresented didn't offer much in the way of bringing the For your consideration ad's besides the new posters that were released after the anouncement. Where as mystic river had tons and tons of print ad's in the daily industry papers.
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Maybe all this means he is ready for Ghostbusters 3!
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Murray wasn't visibly upset, since to be so, you have to at least look otherwise for a little while.

With exception of a smirk or two, Murray looked exactly the same before and after he lost the award.

And anyway, who listens to The Sun?
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Chances are that the comments made in that article were Murray being sarcastic. He is a very sarcastic guy and his humor is only evident when you here him speak. Transcribing it in writing doesn't work.
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He might get another nomination for the upcoming Wes Anderson movie in which he stars.

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