An article on Oscar blunders. Do you agree or disagree?
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Originally posted by scroll2b
If they hate the winners so much, don't watch the next ceremony. It's that simple.
If they hate the winners so much, don't watch the next ceremony. It's that simple.
Actually, its not. The winners are plastered in just about every magazine, newspaper etc.
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Originally posted by JustinS
I don't recall the author mentioning that he "hate(d) all the winners" or even most of them. I strongly suspect that his article was written from a place of genuine affection for both film and the Academy Awards.
I'm sure your "logic" makes sense on some planet in the galaxy...just not this one.
I don't recall the author mentioning that he "hate(d) all the winners" or even most of them. I strongly suspect that his article was written from a place of genuine affection for both film and the Academy Awards.
I'm sure your "logic" makes sense on some planet in the galaxy...just not this one.
Well, I strongly suspect that the word "hate" doesn't have to be literally used in order to get the message across. Perhaps for some of those listed under dishonorable mention he had some unkind words, if not a mean-spirited agenda. However, what he had to say about Benigni was downright hateful, in my opinion, and it was the main reason for my responding.
"We'll spare you the details of why "Life is Beautiful" is one of the most offensive, callous, self-serving, sappy films to ever dupe both the nation and the Academy...."
Dupe both the nation and the Academy? I completely disagree. One of the most offensive? I think not. Self-serving? Care to explain? Sappy? No, he employed a lot of emotion effectively. And so what if he did? What, that's no longer allowed? What's wrong with being "hyperactive"? How was he "megalomaniacal"?
"Benigni doesn't give a performance as much as celebrate himself and his "clever" idea. He wants to be Keaton or Chaplin, but we see his jokes coming from miles away."
I never thought so.
"He's mugging and winking at the audience the whole way through and the result is nauseating."
Again, I completely disagree.
His shtick was good enough to fool the Academy, however, allowing Benigni to embarrass himself (again) on national TV by running around like a madman while gushing such drivel as "My body is in tumult ... I would like to be ... lying down and making love to everybody."
Don't tell me this is not hateful. This was his triumphant moment, and I was so glad I recorded it. It was pure and heartfelt, and I replayed it over and over again for days. I remember the way I felt when the film ended in the theater. It was as if Benigni had ripped my heart out and thrown it away, and I had never felt such an experience before, not even with Braveheart. It was an amazing tragedy, and an amazing comedy.
So don't tell me that I must have the logic of an alien just because I take great offense to what this guy had to say about one of the great films and performances of 1998. If we disagree, fine, but don't go insulting me because I flamed this guy. Remember, we’re members here. It’s against the rules to do that to each other. Disputes may arise, but let’s keep it clean, okay Earthling?
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scroll2b, I also was very moved by "Life is Beautiful." For one thing, it's got a magnificent score (which also won an Oscar). Another is the emotional impact the film had on me. That ending was just something else. I loved Benigni in it, although I don't know if he really should have won Best Actor for it. Personally, I thought Ian McKellen should have got it in 1998 for "Gods and Monsters." Or even Edward Norton for "American History X." FYI, other nominees that year were Nick Nolte for "Affliction" and Tom Hanks for "Saving Private Ryan" (awesome year for actors, no?!). Not to slight Benigni, but I felt "Life" was more a triumph of writing and directing than acting. Certainly deserving of its other wins, though: Best Foreign-Language Film and Original Dramatic Score.
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Originally posted by Andalusia
I haven't seen "Chicago" (but I've seen the production, with Bebe Neuwirth, oh joy!), but was it really the most deserving that year?
I haven't seen "Chicago" (but I've seen the production, with Bebe Neuwirth, oh joy!), but was it really the most deserving that year?
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Originally posted by evitagen
The author 'supports' his opinion several times by saying a certain person deserved an award because never before had they gotten one. That's just silly. That's the purpose of a 'Lifetime Achievement' award.
The author 'supports' his opinion several times by saying a certain person deserved an award because never before had they gotten one. That's just silly. That's the purpose of a 'Lifetime Achievement' award.
For example: He says he wants to give his "alternate oscar" to the best performance of the year, while in many different cases he says "so and so has already gotten my alternate oscar so I will go with so and so."
complete b.s.
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Originally posted by conscience
I diagree with supporting actress.
I loved Marisa Tomei's performance and it was a nice change from the dramatic tones we see every year.
I diagree with supporting actress.
I loved Marisa Tomei's performance and it was a nice change from the dramatic tones we see every year.
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Here's what I think are the worst Oscar choices for Best Picture were (hint: I'm a guy)
Terms of Endearment over The Right Stuff. Does anyone even watch TOE anymore?
Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan. Same question.
Ghandi over ET. Gimme a break on this one, it should have been in the bag for Steven. Ghandi is pretty terrible, IMO.
The Sting over The Exorcist or American Graffiti. The Sting is, IMO, one of the most overrated movies around.
Terms of Endearment over The Right Stuff. Does anyone even watch TOE anymore?
Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan. Same question.
Ghandi over ET. Gimme a break on this one, it should have been in the bag for Steven. Ghandi is pretty terrible, IMO.
The Sting over The Exorcist or American Graffiti. The Sting is, IMO, one of the most overrated movies around.
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I love the Exorcist (one of my favorite films), but The Sting is a great movie that holds up very well. Robert Shaw should have been nominated in the Supporting category (though Houseman still wins it).
Here's one I haven't seen mentioned: Robin Williams for Good Will Hunting. Ugh. If ever a performance cried "please, give me an Oscar, I'm emoting," it was that one. Burt Reynolds for Boogie Nights. That's my pick.
Agree 100% with the critiques of Life is Beautiful, though it's evident several posters here disagree. Ditto A Beautiful Mind.
I still think Dog Day Afternoon deserved more gold, but it's hard to argue against One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Still, I think this was Pacino's best work...
Here's one I haven't seen mentioned: Robin Williams for Good Will Hunting. Ugh. If ever a performance cried "please, give me an Oscar, I'm emoting," it was that one. Burt Reynolds for Boogie Nights. That's my pick.
Agree 100% with the critiques of Life is Beautiful, though it's evident several posters here disagree. Ditto A Beautiful Mind.
I still think Dog Day Afternoon deserved more gold, but it's hard to argue against One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Still, I think this was Pacino's best work...
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I don't know about the rest of you, but I refuse to watch the Oscars again after I saw Julia Roberts steal the Best Actress oscar from Ellen Burstyn in Requiem For A Dream, and more recently, Roger Moore winning Best Documentary for that POS movie "Bowling For Columbine"
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This guy has no mention of Pacino in the worst character ever recorded captured on film? This is one of the worse travesties the academy has ever perpetrated.
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Originally posted by Hiro11
Ghandi over ET. Gimme a break on this one, it should have been in the bag for Steven. Ghandi is pretty terrible, IMO.
Ghandi over ET. Gimme a break on this one, it should have been in the bag for Steven. Ghandi is pretty terrible, IMO.
Of course, this Saving Private Ryan nonsense needs to stop as well... From the 98 nominees, The Thin Red Line is the best of the bunch.
This kind of stuff happens every year, the Academy is no different than you and I... They're human and have opinions. Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong... Personally, I think there's too much weight placed on the Oscars... Winning or losing doesn't change anything. Good is good, crap is crap.
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I think in terms of Oscars that were wrongly awarded, I think there are relatively few such disasters!
A few comments though:
1. Annie Hall winning over Star Wars is actually not a surprise, especially since AMPAS members were getting a bit desperate to finally reward Woody Allen's above-average career as filmmaker and actor up to that time. Fortunately, Annie Hall is a superb movie, probably one of Allen's finest works.
2. The more I think about it, Shakespeare in Love was in many ways a better film than Saving Private Ryan. Other than that extremely realistic and bloody scene at the beginning of the movie, Saving Private Ryan wasn't really that great of a movie. Meanwhile, Shakespeare in Love was wonderful and funny from start to finish.
3. I think there were two reasons why Gandhi won over E.T.: The Extraterrestrial: 1) AMPAS voters are suckers for big epic films and 2) AMPAS voters got a bit sick and tired of the marketing and product tie-ins to E.T.
A few comments though:
1. Annie Hall winning over Star Wars is actually not a surprise, especially since AMPAS members were getting a bit desperate to finally reward Woody Allen's above-average career as filmmaker and actor up to that time. Fortunately, Annie Hall is a superb movie, probably one of Allen's finest works.
2. The more I think about it, Shakespeare in Love was in many ways a better film than Saving Private Ryan. Other than that extremely realistic and bloody scene at the beginning of the movie, Saving Private Ryan wasn't really that great of a movie. Meanwhile, Shakespeare in Love was wonderful and funny from start to finish.
3. I think there were two reasons why Gandhi won over E.T.: The Extraterrestrial: 1) AMPAS voters are suckers for big epic films and 2) AMPAS voters got a bit sick and tired of the marketing and product tie-ins to E.T.
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I agree with the marketing and product tie-ins bit. There's too much hoopla today. Remember that animated Prince of Egypt movie? They had fast-food tie-ins that some people questioned, I think. Toys, too. Right?