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Old 02-15-04, 09:22 PM
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Wonderland..what an unexpexted surprise!

I just watched it on DVD having very little to go on except maybe an article or two in old Entertainment Weekl's, but what a great little flick.
The performances were so engrossing, especially Val Kilmer and the movie just zips along and makes you so interested. I recommend highly and the extras especially the Court TV and LAPD video piece is really fascinating. I am glad Blockbuster didn't yank it as another post boasted.
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I so wanted to see this one in the theaters, but was turned off by all the negative reviews. I'm a big Val Kilmer fan so maybe I will give this one a shot next time I hit the video store. Thanks.
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I wished the movie delved deeper into John Holmes' porn career and his tortured childhood. These aspects of Holmes life would've provided some good explanation as to why he became involved with drugs and murder.

In other words, Wonderland is exactly half the film Boogie Nights is.

Also, Willem Dafoe looks more like Holmes than Val Kilmer. Kilmer is too chubby; Holmes is a tall, gangly fellow.
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I've watched it twice and the Wadd doc...great stuff love the movie and the doc.
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Val Kilmer is in a movie?
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I just saw it this weekend and was pleasantly suprised. I wasn't expecting much so that made it all the better. I dont' think you needed to see the porn career or the childhood. I'm glad they didn't rely on the fact that he was a porn star.
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I agree, I was also pleasantly surprised. Although Val is great here, his physical appearance pulled me out of the flick several times. I kept thinking of the last half of 'The Doors".
Dafoe might have been a better choice.
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Originally posted by Timber
I just saw it this weekend and was pleasantly suprised. I wasn't expecting much so that made it all the better. I dont' think you needed to see the porn career or the childhood. I'm glad they didn't rely on the fact that he was a porn star.
Same here. I was not expecting much as it generally received negative reviews upon it's release, but it wasn't bad at all. The documentary was well done too.
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I saw it this weekend and thought it was great. I read the bad reviews and have to disagree with most of them. I agree with the comment of Kilmer pulling me out of the role momentarily.

Does this role put Val in the lead for playing the most real characters, or the most 20th century real characters?
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Superb film. Bought it blind and have watched it three times. The acting is first rate all around(with the exception of a badly butchered cameo by Princess Leia). Josh Lucas blew me away.
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I thought it was ok. I actually liked the Johnny Wad doc on disc 2 better though.
Val Kilmer nailed the role IMHO.
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The WADD doc was interesting

The movie was good too. It says it's about the Wonderland murders, not about John Holmes specifically.

Great cast of supporting players too.
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Is the Wonderland dvd two discs or one? I'm hearing a lot about this Johnny Wad documentary and does it come with the dvd? I am interested in renting this film and hopefully Blockbuster will carry it.
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Originally posted by QuikSilver
Is the Wonderland dvd two discs or one? I'm hearing a lot about this Johnny Wad documentary and does it come with the dvd? I am interested in renting this film and hopefully Blockbuster will carry it.
2 discs and you get both with blockbuster rental
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I rented it and watched the film twice and the doc once.

The docu is great but the film is awfully entertaining.

I'm not a big Val Kilmer fan but he did one hell of a job here.

Also, you don't think once of "Friends" when you see and hear Lisa Kudrow as Holmes' first wife.
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that lapd footage made me have nightmares. spooky stuff

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