The Fountain - Aronofsky
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Originally Posted by iggystar
I've been waiting for so long, seen the trailer a million times, it's R, it's PG-13, Entertainment Weekly had it in seasonal movie guide eight seasons ago.....am I being set up for a let down?
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I saw it in Chicago and audienced applaused as they typically do at film festivals - but the chatter as people walked out of the theater and back to wherever they came back from wasn't out of this world. It wasn't negative, but it wasn't out of this world.
It's nothing to get geektastic about.
It's nothing to get geektastic about.
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Originally Posted by Artman
Did anyone notice it was re-rated to PG-13? Since I remember the R only being for 'some violence' I doubt much was cut. I can understand though, given the film's already limited audience.
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
Yeah that took my by suprise when I saw a TV spot today given that all other ads I've seen has had the film labeled as R. Although I know a rating doesn't indicate the quality of the film but I find it troubling that they had the rating changed at the last minute. It just feels as if the studio knows they have a stinker on their hands and are trying to cut their losses.
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I got to see this last Friday and it's easily the best film I've seen this year. All I ask is that you don't go into it looking for a sci-fi film. Do that, and I hope you'll be happy. It's the most moving film I've seen in a long time.
As for it being changed from R to PG-13, Aronofsky was asked about this at the junket I was at on Saturday. He said that absolutely none of the violence was changed at all. When asked what happened, all he would say was that there were negotiations to get it down to a PG-13.
Probably the best thing I can say is that it moved me just as much as Requiem for a Dream. That film not only had the performances, but the visual onslaught that would have made it NC-17 had it not been release unrated by Artisan. He makes a film that's just as moving (if not more) in a film that's PG-13. I know that ratings really don't mean squat, but I think that's a farily significant move forward for Aronofsky.
As for it being changed from R to PG-13, Aronofsky was asked about this at the junket I was at on Saturday. He said that absolutely none of the violence was changed at all. When asked what happened, all he would say was that there were negotiations to get it down to a PG-13.
Probably the best thing I can say is that it moved me just as much as Requiem for a Dream. That film not only had the performances, but the visual onslaught that would have made it NC-17 had it not been release unrated by Artisan. He makes a film that's just as moving (if not more) in a film that's PG-13. I know that ratings really don't mean squat, but I think that's a farily significant move forward for Aronofsky.
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I have been eagerly awaiting this flick, but it is getting shafted on Rotten Tomatoes. I don't always let reviews determine what movies I see, but when Rotten Tomatoes dips into Rotten, it makes me think twice.
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Originally Posted by joshd2012
I have been eagerly awaiting this flick, but it is getting shafted on Rotten Tomatoes. I don't always let reviews determine what movies I see, but when Rotten Tomatoes dips into Rotten, it makes me think twice.
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Originally Posted by mink-e
TI talked to one who didn't like it near as much as I did and he said that the problem he had was that there were no "signposts" in the film and it was on you to keep up.
I absolutely love movies like Memento, Blue Velvet, Rumble Fish and -if I dare mention that- 2001. And none of them talked down to their audience.
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Originally Posted by Grubert
I say screw signposts. More often than not they are only something to spoonfeed the audience.
I absolutely love movies like Memento, Blue Velvet, Rumble Fish and -if I dare mention that- 2001. And none of them talked down to their audience.
I absolutely love movies like Memento, Blue Velvet, Rumble Fish and -if I dare mention that- 2001. And none of them talked down to their audience.
In regards to the Tomato Meter, I think it's worth noting that at least with everyone at the screening I was at, none of us are allowed to even post reviews until the 22nd. I think it's absolutely idiotic because it right now people look at the meter and think about skipping it when a good chunk of good reviews are already written (mine is) and ready to post, but we can't.
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Originally Posted by mink-e
In regards to the Tomato Meter, I think it's worth noting that at least with everyone at the screening I was at, none of us are allowed to even post reviews until the 22nd. I think it's absolutely idiotic because it right now people look at the meter and think about skipping it when a good chunk of good reviews are already written (mine is) and ready to post, but we can't.
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I went to an advance screening tonight and I might've been the only person who came out liking it.
It might actually put Soderbergh's remake of Solaris to shame with the amount of walk outs this film can provide.
It might actually put Soderbergh's remake of Solaris to shame with the amount of walk outs this film can provide.
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Originally Posted by clemente
I saw it in Chicago and audienced applaused as they typically do at film festivals - but the chatter as people walked out of the theater and back to wherever they came back from wasn't out of this world. It wasn't negative, but it wasn't out of this world.
It's nothing to get geektastic about.
It's nothing to get geektastic about.
I haven't see this or anything but tbh the trailer is far from inspiring if you really think about it. A bit of forevernes - time moving around. I get the impression it will be one of those movies where you don't really care what happens or about the character about 3/4 of the way through
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Interview with Jackman and Weisz:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=17541
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=17541
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We also covered it at our podcast on the FirstShowing.net Hypecast. It pretty much covers the same material as the Coming Soon article. We just run the audio from the roundtables.
Also, should the above link be considered inappropriate pimping of one's own site, I'll delete this post.
Also, should the above link be considered inappropriate pimping of one's own site, I'll delete this post.
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Interesting that someone brought up Solaris as a comparison. That was another movie that actually attempted to be a serious piece of Sci-fi and wound up flopping. Furthermore, it was released at the exact same time, the Wednesday before T-giving. I saw Solaris its first day and while glad I saw it, almost fell asleep several times. This movie looks like it won't be as boring, but I know that any movie attempting to be real sci-fi (i.e. not Star Wars or Independence Day) runs a risk of giving me the nappies. I honestly feel that if 2001 were released now it would not be a hit in the slightest, as most younger people I know who see it out hearing all about it find it boring.
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
Interesting that someone brought up Solaris as a comparison. That was another movie that actually attempted to be a serious piece of Sci-fi and wound up flopping. Furthermore, it was released at the exact same time, the Wednesday before T-giving. I saw Solaris its first day and while glad I saw it, almost fell asleep several times. This movie looks like it won't be as boring, but I know that any movie attempting to be real sci-fi (i.e. not Star Wars or Independence Day) runs a risk of giving me the nappies. I honestly feel that if 2001 were released now it would not be a hit in the slightest, as most younger people I know who see it out hearing all about it find it boring.
fuck younger people and their shitty taste in film
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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
I went to an advance screening tonight and I might've been the only person who came out liking it.
It might actually put Soderbergh's remake of Solaris to shame with the amount of walk outs this film can provide.
It might actually put Soderbergh's remake of Solaris to shame with the amount of walk outs this film can provide.
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I think people want fantasy/sci-fi instead of a exitentialist love story.
I like Aronofsky because he makes films that no one is making. That's why I'll see this one.
I like Aronofsky because he makes films that no one is making. That's why I'll see this one.
Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
So...for those who have seen The Fountain...is it as dull as Solaris? (and that can refer to the original or the remake which are both snoozers)
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Originally Posted by brianluvdvd
So...for those who have seen The Fountain...is it as dull as Solaris? (and that can refer to the original or the remake which are both snoozers)
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Originally Posted by whynotsmile
fuck younger people and their shitty taste in film
Well, I wouldn't be that harsh. But yeah, their taste lacks. As long as a movie like The Departed can make good money, then there is still hope. I have a feeling this movie will fare worst out of all new releases today, even the one with Ferris Bueller and Charlotte.
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD
I have a feeling this movie will fare worst out of all new releases today, even the one with Ferris Bueller and Charlotte.
But honestly, that Christmas movie is just a family cash-in for people who already saw Santa Clause 3 and don't want to see Penguins.