A tentative "Troy" vs. "Helen of Troy" thread
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Meanwhile, my quarrel with the dvdtimes.org.uk DVD critic continues:
http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=11900
http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=11900
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Jacques Sernas, Luthianian-born French actor, hero of the Resistance, prisoner of Buchenwald, international beefcake star of films such as "Helen of Troy" (1956) and "55 Days at Peking", as well as playing the archtypical movie star in Fellini's "La Dolce Vita" (1960), turns 80 on July 30, 2005.
His fan page:
http://home.flash.net/~torchie/jacquessernas.html






His fan page:
http://home.flash.net/~torchie/jacquessernas.html



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15 September 2005
Director Robert Wise Dies at 91
Director Robert Wise Dies at 91
Director Robert Wise, who won two Academy Awards for directing two of the most successful movie musicals of all time, West Side Story and The Sound of Music, died of heart failure yesterday; he was 91. Wise, who had just celebrated his birthday on Saturday, was rushed to the UCLA Medical Center after suddenly falling ill. Recently, the filmmaker had reportedly been in good health, and his wife, Millicent, was out of the country at the San Sebastian Film Festival, participating in a retrospective of her husband's work. An extremely versatile director whose films ranged from drama to horror to sci-fi to musicals, Wise got his start at RKO Studios as an assistant editor, a job he got thanks to his brother, who was in the studio's accounting department. Working his way up the ladder to full editor, Wise edited such films as The Hunchback of Notre Dame and My Favorite Wife before nabbing an Academy Award nomination for editing the legendary Citizen Kane. He also worked with filmmaker Orson Welles on The Magnificent Ambersons, and was involved in that movie's drastic re-editing, which was requested by RKO while Welles was out of the country; the missing footage from Ambersons, and Wise's falling-out with Welles over the final product, later became the stuff of legend.
Two years after Ambersons, Wise was given his first job directing The Curse of the Cat People, which he co-directed with Gunther von Fritsch. Working on B pictures for RKO through the 40s, including the Boris Karloff vehicle The Body Snatcher, Wise came to the attention of critics with his prizefighter film The Set-Up (1949), which took place in real time. His films in the 50s were notably more high profile, starting with the sci-fi classic The Day the Earth Stood Still; he also helmed So Big, Somebody Up There Likes Me, and I Want to Live, which won him his first Oscar nomination and a Best Actress award for Susan Hayward. In 1961, Wise attempted his first musical, an adaptation of the Broadway hit West Side Story, on which he worked (and reportedly clashed) with choreographer and co-director Jerome Robbins. The film, starring Natalie Wood and Richard Beymer (neither of whom did their own singing), was a massive hit and won ten Academy Awards, including Best Picture and directing honors for Wise and Robbins - neither thanked the other in their acceptance speeches. After making the creepily effective black-and-white thriller The Haunting (1963), Wise went back to musical territory with The Sound of Music (1965), the small story of a governess (Julie Andrews) in Austria that turned into a very, very big hit. Critically lambasted but a fervent, almost rabid favorite with audiences, it went on to become the highest-grossing movie ever released at that time, saved 20th Century Fox from imminent bankruptcy in the wake of Cleopatra, and won Wise his second Oscar in addition to Best Picture.

Wise's output after The Sound of Music was scattershot in quality, and as he grew older he worked less frequently, but he helmed a number of notable pictures in the 60s and 70s: The Sand Pebbles, his last Best Picture nominee; the ill-fated Julie Andrews vehicle Star!; modernistic sci-fi thriller The Andromeda Strain; possession horror flick Audrey Rose; and the first Star Trek movie, appropriately titled Star Trek: The Motion Picture. The director's last feature film was Rooftops (1989), an attempt at a contemporary urban musical. Wise went on to become the president of both the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences and the Directors Guild of America, and found a devoted fan in filmmaker Martin Scorsese, who was said to be instrumental in getting Wise the American Film Institute's lifetime achievement award in 1998. Wise is survived by his wife, Millicent, and a son from a previous marriage. --Prepared by IMDb staff
Two years after Ambersons, Wise was given his first job directing The Curse of the Cat People, which he co-directed with Gunther von Fritsch. Working on B pictures for RKO through the 40s, including the Boris Karloff vehicle The Body Snatcher, Wise came to the attention of critics with his prizefighter film The Set-Up (1949), which took place in real time. His films in the 50s were notably more high profile, starting with the sci-fi classic The Day the Earth Stood Still; he also helmed So Big, Somebody Up There Likes Me, and I Want to Live, which won him his first Oscar nomination and a Best Actress award for Susan Hayward. In 1961, Wise attempted his first musical, an adaptation of the Broadway hit West Side Story, on which he worked (and reportedly clashed) with choreographer and co-director Jerome Robbins. The film, starring Natalie Wood and Richard Beymer (neither of whom did their own singing), was a massive hit and won ten Academy Awards, including Best Picture and directing honors for Wise and Robbins - neither thanked the other in their acceptance speeches. After making the creepily effective black-and-white thriller The Haunting (1963), Wise went back to musical territory with The Sound of Music (1965), the small story of a governess (Julie Andrews) in Austria that turned into a very, very big hit. Critically lambasted but a fervent, almost rabid favorite with audiences, it went on to become the highest-grossing movie ever released at that time, saved 20th Century Fox from imminent bankruptcy in the wake of Cleopatra, and won Wise his second Oscar in addition to Best Picture.

Wise's output after The Sound of Music was scattershot in quality, and as he grew older he worked less frequently, but he helmed a number of notable pictures in the 60s and 70s: The Sand Pebbles, his last Best Picture nominee; the ill-fated Julie Andrews vehicle Star!; modernistic sci-fi thriller The Andromeda Strain; possession horror flick Audrey Rose; and the first Star Trek movie, appropriately titled Star Trek: The Motion Picture. The director's last feature film was Rooftops (1989), an attempt at a contemporary urban musical. Wise went on to become the president of both the Academy of Motion Picture Arts & Sciences and the Directors Guild of America, and found a devoted fan in filmmaker Martin Scorsese, who was said to be instrumental in getting Wise the American Film Institute's lifetime achievement award in 1998. Wise is survived by his wife, Millicent, and a son from a previous marriage. --Prepared by IMDb staff
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Update, November 2006: Film Score Monthly and Screen Archives Entertainment have joined forces to offer a 12-CD collection of all the recordings conducted by Elmer Bernstein in his memorable “Film Music Collection” series of LPs (1975-1979). The price is steep but this unique collection contains, besides a 20-minute “Helen of Troy” suite, many unavailable records that are the holy grails of every film music aficionado’s dream collection and that were never available on CD before. Go to http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm?ID=5785 for complete details but hurry, quantities are limited and those records are only available through their websites.

This film music enthusiast/blogger (http://archer-bullseye.blogspot.com/...an-age-of.html ) also offers his own modified re-recording of the Mythus (bootleg) album for free on rapidshare.com. He has speeded up the recording by a whole semitone in order to make it sound like it does on the DVD. His blog also offers other legendary film scores unavailable in any other format, like Bernard Herrmann’s “Marnie”. Enjoy!
My review of the Mythus (bootleg) 2-CD soundtrack: http://home.flash.net/~torchie/jsern...troymusic2.htm

This film music enthusiast/blogger (http://archer-bullseye.blogspot.com/...an-age-of.html ) also offers his own modified re-recording of the Mythus (bootleg) album for free on rapidshare.com. He has speeded up the recording by a whole semitone in order to make it sound like it does on the DVD. His blog also offers other legendary film scores unavailable in any other format, like Bernard Herrmann’s “Marnie”. Enjoy!
My review of the Mythus (bootleg) 2-CD soundtrack: http://home.flash.net/~torchie/jsern...troymusic2.htm

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I watched this movie some time ago on DVD and I think it was all right (better than Troy). One thing I remember clearly is how hot Rossana Podesta and Brigitte Bardot is.

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Originally Posted by eedoon
I watched this movie some time ago on DVD and I think it was all right (better than Troy). One thing I remember clearly is how hot Rossana Podesta and Brigitte Bardot is. 




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funny to see this thread pop up now after I just watched Troy(HD) from Netflix.
Apart from Brad Pitt who despite his killer physique couldn't convince as a leader or great warrior, I enjoyed it.
But I couldn't help thinking how much more I enjoyed Helen of Troy when I rented it earlier this year. No doubt the production and effects of the new one were state of the art in comparision, and the performances from the 50s film were mannered and old fashioned, but that may have been part of the charm of it.
Apart from Brad Pitt who despite his killer physique couldn't convince as a leader or great warrior, I enjoyed it.
But I couldn't help thinking how much more I enjoyed Helen of Troy when I rented it earlier this year. No doubt the production and effects of the new one were state of the art in comparision, and the performances from the 50s film were mannered and old fashioned, but that may have been part of the charm of it.
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Originally Posted by Paul_SD
funny to see this thread pop up now after I just watched Troy(HD) from Netflix.
Apart from Brad Pitt who despite his killer physique couldn't convince as a leader or great warrior, I enjoyed it.
But I couldn't help thinking how much more I enjoyed Helen of Troy when I rented it earlier this year. No doubt the production and effects of the new one were state of the art in comparision, and the performances from the 50s film were mannered and old fashioned, but that may have been part of the charm of it.
Apart from Brad Pitt who despite his killer physique couldn't convince as a leader or great warrior, I enjoyed it.
But I couldn't help thinking how much more I enjoyed Helen of Troy when I rented it earlier this year. No doubt the production and effects of the new one were state of the art in comparision, and the performances from the 50s film were mannered and old fashioned, but that may have been part of the charm of it.
