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Old 01-19-04, 04:21 AM
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Whats with The One Eyed ORC General?

I am sure he is supposed to be heavily wounded, but it looks more like he suffers from whatever disease John Merrick (The Elephant Man) was afflicted by. Does PJ ever make any mention of this anywhere?

Also, I thought, at least according to Gimli, that Orcs were mindless. The general and his lieutenant (the guy with the skull on his head) seemed reasonably intelligent, as did The main Orc in the tower near Cirith Ungol (near Shelob) Did what Gimli state amount to really no more than, forgive me for resurrecting this old, tired and completely baseless issue, a racist comment?
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Re: Whats with The One Eyed ORC General?

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Also, I thought, at least according to Gimli, that Orcs were mindless. The general and his lieutenant (the guy with the skull on his head) seemed reasonably intelligent, as did The main Orc in the tower near Cirith Ungol (near Shelob) Did what Gimli state amount to really no more than, forgive me for resurrecting this old, tired and completely baseless issue, a racist comment?
Orcs aren't mindless so much as driven by their base instinct. All through Return of the King you have orcs that show they have a certain amount of intelligence, from the officer orcs at Minas Tirith to the orcs that find Frodo by Shelob's lair. Also, in The Two Towers, especially the extended edition, the orcs and uruk-hai talk quite a bit. It's safe to say that Gimli, as puffed up as he is about elves, must certainly look down upon orcs as the worst kind of creature to inhabit Middle Earth, and his put down isn't literal.
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Goldberg74 - I swear, that was the first thing I thought of when I saw that character. I started laughing out loud, but I quickly hushed up when I noticed no one else was laughing.
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Obviously ol PJ is a Goonies fan...but who isnt?
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I thought that was Quasimoto.
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No...PJ even said it was an homage to Sloth...
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Originally posted by QuiGonJosh
No...PJ even said it was an homage to Sloth...
seriously? where?
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i had the same experience the first time i saw it josh
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I've been known to show people my "one eye general" from time to time.
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Originally posted by Grouch094820 & 5/17
I've been known to show people my "one eye general" from time to time.
People? You mean like in crowds? I think you can get arrested for that.
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His voice sounded a lot like that of Dr. Claw or Ole Anderson. For the unfamiliar with wrestling, Anderson did the voices of the horrid Shockmaster and Black Scorpion characters in WCW.
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Originally posted by Dr. DVD
His voice sounded a lot like that of Dr. Claw or Ole Anderson. For the unfamiliar with wrestling, Anderson did the voices of the horrid Shockmaster and Black Scorpion characters in WCW.
To me the voice sounds like General Krulos from the Dino Riders.

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Originally posted by Goldberg74
To me the voice sounds like General Krulos from the Dino Riders.

OMG!!!! Someone who remember who Krulos is. That was my favorite toy!


Oh and yes I thought the diseased orc didn't fit. I liked the other Uruk Hai from Fellowship better. Much more menacing.
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Re: Whats with The One Eyed ORC General?

Originally posted by rushmore223
I am sure he is supposed to be heavily wounded, but it looks more like he suffers from whatever disease John Merrick (The Elephant Man) was afflicted by. Does PJ ever make any mention of this anywhere?
For a little while, I thought that maybe he was supposed to be an orc that had been created out of Wormtongue. They kind of looked alike and had similar personalities.

It wasn't until my second viewing that I decided that that wasn't the case.
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My original thought about this guy was that he was an embodiment of Sauron somehow. I've only seen the movie once, but I seem to remember a shot that tracked past his hand, and it looked like it had some (or all) fingers missing. It was very brief, but the shot was definitely deliberate, so it had to have meant something.
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I still think that these versions of orcs are the original tortured Elves that were broken long ago. Only a few remain and they are the leaders of the Orcs.

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