Anyone here seen Dogville?
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I just got the korean 2-disc special edition last week and I must say that I was quite impressed. Nicole Kidman was amazing (as was the rest of the cast) with this being her best role in my opinion. Easily one of the best films I've seen in quite some time.
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I am dying to see this movie. Why is it taking so long to be released in the states? I heard some sort of controversy sounding the film. Is this the reason why?
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I saw it, wasn't impressed. Like most of lars von trier's films, the buzz about it is usually better than the actual film.
I saw it, wasn't impressed. Like most of lars von trier's films, the buzz about it is usually better than the actual film.
Personally, I thought it was a fantastic film, and easier to watch than Dancer In The Dark or Breaking The Waves (I mean emotionally, I don't have a problem with the camera work in any of those films). The Kingdom is still my favorite thing that he's done, but this is just excellent filmmaking. Highly stylized.
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I got the Korean 2disc set last week and watched it yesterday. Very original film. I was put off by the style at first but went with it after a while. It's kind of paranoic Our Town. Haven't delved into the extras yet...
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I liked it too - though on a technical level, the digital camera he used was very distracting as the image would blur very badly with every little camera movement.
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I just got the Korean Dogville LE Box Set, and saw it a couple of days ago. Yes, it was a slow film. I thought the whole anti-americanism fuss was blown totally out of proportion. A big marketing gimmick.
This movie did not strike me as a great film. The story was rather bland really, and one already had an idea where the story would go before it happened.
As for style, certainly a good way to save on the production cost. But I don´t think Lars von Trier took advantage of the missing walls. I think this could have been incorporated better into the story for a more significant impact. Maybe we´ll see this better explored with the sequel Manderlay, which premieres in Copenhagen November 2005.
Dogville will open in US theatres in limited release 25th of March. If you cannot wait you can buy the Region 0 DVD from Korea or the Danish Region 2, given that you have a multi-region player. No forced subtitles on either of these two versions. Or make a bid on eBay. But they are rather expensive. The LE Box Set sells for between $ 100.00 - $ 200.00 because only 2000 were made of the excluse set.
Imagine this, Nicole Kidman only got about $32.000 for her role. What a pay cut for her normal fee of 15 million Dollars!!
This movie did not strike me as a great film. The story was rather bland really, and one already had an idea where the story would go before it happened.
As for style, certainly a good way to save on the production cost. But I don´t think Lars von Trier took advantage of the missing walls. I think this could have been incorporated better into the story for a more significant impact. Maybe we´ll see this better explored with the sequel Manderlay, which premieres in Copenhagen November 2005.
Dogville will open in US theatres in limited release 25th of March. If you cannot wait you can buy the Region 0 DVD from Korea or the Danish Region 2, given that you have a multi-region player. No forced subtitles on either of these two versions. Or make a bid on eBay. But they are rather expensive. The LE Box Set sells for between $ 100.00 - $ 200.00 because only 2000 were made of the excluse set.
Imagine this, Nicole Kidman only got about $32.000 for her role. What a pay cut for her normal fee of 15 million Dollars!!
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I saw it yesterday and I thought it was really good. After Breaking the Waves, this might be the best from von Trier, though I haven't seen The Kingdom or Medea as yet.
The 'anti-American' label I think is a reach. Other than the end credits I thought the film seemed very universal.
The 'anti-American' label I think is a reach. Other than the end credits I thought the film seemed very universal.
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I think it's von Trier's best film and probably the best film of 2003. I was completely blown away by every aspect of the film.
ETA: MrN, I've seen Medea. and while interesting, it's not in the same league as von Trier's more recent work.
ETA: MrN, I've seen Medea. and while interesting, it's not in the same league as von Trier's more recent work.
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Originally posted by MrN
The 'anti-American' label I think is a reach. Other than the end credits I thought the film seemed very universal.
The 'anti-American' label I think is a reach. Other than the end credits I thought the film seemed very universal.

Unless I'm reading the work wrong, this has to be one of the more misanthropic films I've ever seen.
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Unless I'm reading the work wrong, this has to be one of the more misanthropic films I've ever seen.

Unless I'm reading the work wrong, this has to be one of the more misanthropic films I've ever seen.
*OK, that's a very simplified interpretation. Don't flame me because you disagree.

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I would agree. My reading of the film is that the theme is, people are evil, and deserve to be punished*. I found it very refreshing, actually.
*OK, that's a very simplified interpretation. Don't flame me because you disagree.
I would agree. My reading of the film is that the theme is, people are evil, and deserve to be punished*. I found it very refreshing, actually.
*OK, that's a very simplified interpretation. Don't flame me because you disagree.

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I had picked up the Korean LE release of this when it first came out, and just recently got around to watching it.
Wow. What a great movie. I have seen other films of Lars von Triers' and have enjoyed them all, this is definitely one of his best IMO. Nicole Kidman was very good in it. I have not been a fan of hers for many years, but she showed me that she is a damn_fine actress.
I didn't think I would get use to the "no walls" thing but after a little bit I never noticed, except when the characters were opening doors. For some reason that just seemed awkward to me (and the sound effects didn't help).
Wow. What a great movie. I have seen other films of Lars von Triers' and have enjoyed them all, this is definitely one of his best IMO. Nicole Kidman was very good in it. I have not been a fan of hers for many years, but she showed me that she is a damn_fine actress.
I didn't think I would get use to the "no walls" thing but after a little bit I never noticed, except when the characters were opening doors. For some reason that just seemed awkward to me (and the sound effects didn't help).
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It just started showing at a local theater.
Once I got used to the whole set design I started to get into it.
I liked most of the characters and acting.
However, I never crossed over that emotional point that Dancer in the Dark completely demolished. I just didn't connect with Grace overall.
So when the ending came, it seemed kind of cheesy to me.
Somewhat disappointing.
Once I got used to the whole set design I started to get into it.
I liked most of the characters and acting.
However, I never crossed over that emotional point that Dancer in the Dark completely demolished. I just didn't connect with Grace overall.
So when the ending came, it seemed kind of cheesy to me.
Somewhat disappointing.
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We FINALLY got this flick at the local arthouse theater this weekend, and I LOVED it. I'm all ready a fan of von Triers, and I think this is the best thing he's ever done.
At first I wasn't certain about the empty-soundstage thing. It felt like a gimmick. But in time I was drawn in by the performances and the use of light, and I didn't even notice it anymore. And I was surprised to see so many great actors used in bit parts! I found the ending very satisfying and I enjoyed the film very much. I recommend it highly.
At first I wasn't certain about the empty-soundstage thing. It felt like a gimmick. But in time I was drawn in by the performances and the use of light, and I didn't even notice it anymore. And I was surprised to see so many great actors used in bit parts! I found the ending very satisfying and I enjoyed the film very much. I recommend it highly.
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Originally posted by F For Fake
We FINALLY got this flick at the local arthouse theater this weekend, and I LOVED it. I'm all ready a fan of von Triers, and I think this is the best thing he's ever done.
We FINALLY got this flick at the local arthouse theater this weekend, and I LOVED it. I'm all ready a fan of von Triers, and I think this is the best thing he's ever done.
A board I frequent had an interesting interpretation of the entire movie- which, oddly enough, are the same thoughts I had.
From www.artsandfaith.com user "Jeffrey Overstreet"
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I hope he keeps working at this theme. He's moving forward, and it will be fascinating to see where he goes. Sting, as a singer/songwriter, started here... with the rage against God, lament for the evils of humankind, and insightful poetry about the devil's mastery of the world. But he kept exploring, kept lamenting, and has found his way to the beginnings of grace in recent albums. He, like all of us, still has a ways to go (he's in the "affirm grace, but reject religion" stage right now). But he's a moving target... and that's the mark of an artist. Von Trier is, at last, an artist again.
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I'm off and on with Von Trier but while this took awile to get used to, the sets and all, i thought the story got very involving and the ending-and I never thought Id say this for a Trier film- was kick ass. I felt like I was cheering on a martial arts film where the hero FINALLY kicks the villain's ass. Needless to say, the ending was very cathartic for me and ultimately redeemed the movie in my eyes. Now I cant wait for the sequel Manderlay, although I hope Bryce Howard replacing Kidman goes smoothly.