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Old 12-18-03, 11:48 AM
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Possible Other Movie References in ROTK? (spoilers)

Reading some of the reviews, looks like I wasn't the only one who noticed what may be references to other movies in ROTK.
Maybe there are others that'll come up as we go and see it again in the theaters.

Darth Orc - in the siege of Minas Tirith there was a red-and-black face painted orc which reminded me of Darth Maul

Leggy vs. Oli - Luke vs. AT-AT in Empire

Gondorian warrior being dropped by the Fell beast toppling to his death on the different levels of the city was reminiscent of "Propeller Guy" in Titanic

Gollum falling in the lava - T2 ending
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the Darth Orc caught my eye for sure, as did the Gollum thing
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Originally posted by Daytrip
the Darth Orc caught my eye for sure, as did the Gollum thing
The gollum one reminded me more of Alien3.
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Gollum falling into the fires/lava came waaaaay before T1, T2, and T3.
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Originally posted by Giantrobo
Gollum falling into the fires/lava came waaaaay before T1, T2, and T3.
Yes, but we're talking on screen in a memorable way.
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I really doubt Jackson was referencing any other movie - it's just us, reading a lot into things.
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With Frodo awakening at the end, the scene reminded me of the end of THE WIZARD OF OZ with Dorothy's friends surrounding her also in a bed.

The farewell at the ship seemed very reminiscent of E.T.'s leaving at the end of that film.

These could just be coincidences, but I thought of those two classics.
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sam: "get away from him you slime!"
ripley: "get away from her you bitch!"

the context was virtually identical.

i'll bet we find out in the commentary that PJ had that very scene in mind. probably my fondest childhood theater memory...and easily the most excited i've ever seen a theater audience.

of course, now someone will tell me that bit of dialogue was in the book and that james cameron was influenced by LOTR
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Sam actually said, "Get away from him, you filth."
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That line seemed really out of place to me when I heard it. It was like Sam suddenly became a kickass action hero. Kinda put me out of the moment just cause I wasn't expecting him to say something like that.
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one of the orcs looked like the Grinch.
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Sam didn't say that line in the book, but he did say, "Now come, you filth. You've hurt my master, and now you'll pay for it .... Come on, and taste it again!"
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When I saw the scene at the end where Aragorn (and everyone else) bowed down to the Hobbits, I immediately thought Mulan.
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Originally posted by Inverse
Sam didn't say that line in the book, but he did say, "Now come, you filth. You've hurt my master, and now you'll pay for it .... Come on, and taste it again!"
well that's a relief. it was so much like the aliens scene, i almost thought it was tongue in cheek...which seemed a bit out of place to me as the series has thus far taken itself fairly seriously.

regardless, it took me out of the story for a second or two..of course this was compounded by the fact that i had watch aliens on DVD just a few nights before seeing ROTK.

did anyone else think the same thing at the time?
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Some Braveheart is in there, too!

When the orcs kneel with spears - directly from Braveheart. I couldn't help but yelp when I saw that - in a good way!

And, reading the old AICN articles with Peter, he referenced that film A LOT when describing how "real" these films would come off.

Also, Arragorn says "Sons of....." as does Mel Gibson in Bravheart - "Sons of Scotland, I am William Wallace...."
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That head orc reminded me of Sloth from Goonies. Probably just my imagination, but both movies did star Sean Astin. Maybe Sean gave Peter some advice on character design.
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As far as kneeling with spears; that is your basic Pike Square, and was a common medieval defense against horsemen.

I thought the "red and black faced paint guy" who others equate to Darth Maul, reminded me more of that "Mola Ram" guy from Indiana Jones & the Temple of Doom.

Also, the "Puffy-faced" Orc reminded me of Sloth, from the Goonies.
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I'm almost afraid to mention this one movie I know that has a scene with two main characters holding hands towards the end although instead of "Don't you let go", they say:

"I'll never let go...I'll never let go..."

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Re: Possible Other Movie References in ROTK? (spoilers)

Originally posted by Kal Jedi
Leggy vs. Oli - Luke vs. AT-AT in Empire
My thoughts exactly! Like watching Imperial Walkers with tusks and hair.
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They used all those arrows, just like in Robin Hood and Braveheart and , jackson is such a hack regurgitator.
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Well, I have to give you guys kudos for not citing the siege at Osgiliath as a nod to Saving Private Ryan.

Spoiler:
(however, it was obviously inspired by the beach landing at normandy)
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Originally posted by Palaver
That head orc reminded me of Sloth from Goonies. Probably just my imagination, but both movies did star Sean Astin. Maybe Sean gave Peter some advice on character design.
Thanks, now I know where I saw that face before.
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The green light on the pyramid-looking structure looks like it's the Luxor.
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Originally posted by TheMadMonk
As far as kneeling with spears; that is your basic Pike Square, and was a common medieval defense against horsemen.
Except, the framing in that first shot they kneel is just like the framing in some of the Braveheart shots. Trust me, I've seen the film many, many, many times, and it completely stood out. I've seen Empire Strikes back like 2-3 times, and the framing for the shot that everyone's talking about I recognized, too.....
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When Theoden is dying on the battlefield:

Eowyn: I have to save you.
Theoden: You already have.

Reminds me of Luke and Anakin in the exploding Death Star at the end of Return of the Jedi.

Luke: I've got to save you.
Anakin: You already have, Luke.

I'm beginning to think all of these scenes were done as homages to these previous big, epic films.

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