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PJsig08 11-12-03 01:27 PM

T3 - better after repeat viewings?
 
I saw T3 twice in theatres, and now once on DVD. And every time it's progressivley gotten better and better.

In fact, the third time was incredible. I've never found this with any other recent movies....anyone else agree? I know not everyone enjoyed this movie...

matome 11-12-03 01:36 PM

I find it's replayability to be pretty high as well. It has excellent pacing.

Daytrip 11-12-03 01:39 PM

it actually got progressivly worse for me.......but i still enjoy it enough to buy it

Joe Schmoe 11-12-03 01:51 PM

The second viewing was better for me because I had high exepctations for the film the first time I saw it and was disappointed when it didn't deliver. I really liked the action scenes, but the character development was rushed: on the same day Kate experiences great loss, she's able to pull herself together enough that she can flirt and kick ass. That's a little hard for me to believe. Perhaps if this film had gone a full 2 hours, the director could have fleshed out the characters better. It's still a fun movie though.

Geofferson 11-12-03 02:08 PM

I liked it just as much in my second viewing. Holds up well with great action sequences.

eXcentris 11-12-03 02:11 PM

Keep watching a movie over and over while thinking "this must be good, this must be good" and you'll eventually convince yourself that it is. :)

Dr. DVD 11-12-03 03:57 PM

A second viewing helps as you know where the movie really ends and the little epilogue begins.

PJsig08 11-12-03 05:10 PM

If you tell yourself its not T2 and can't/won't be better than T2, it turns out pretty good :D

Jepthah 11-12-03 11:21 PM

I thought it was great from the first viewing. Thoroughly entertaining with great style (far better action than Matrix and most other summer bilge), and just the right amount of humor. If people 'rediscover' it on DVD, so much the better.

Deftones 11-12-03 11:37 PM

I only saw it once, and wasn't overly impressed by it. It was one of the better flicks this summer, but that's not saying much. I'm sure I'll enjoy it more watching it at home.

rennervision 11-13-03 07:34 AM

I watched T1 and T2 in preparation over the weekend. Then I watched T3 the day it went on sale. I must say, although I enjoyed it in the theater, when you watch all three back-to-back, I believe the flaws seem more apparent, and at times even looks to be just one step removed from a comedy. (If you disagree, check out the one deleted scene which, if it had been used, would have tipped the whole film over into a parody.)

Also, the chase scene with the crane could arguably be the best Terminator chase scene ever, but I don't think the movie's action does anything afterwards to top that moment - which adds to a little disappointment for me since that pulse-pounding scene occurs very early in the film. Still, if this series is to be considered a "trilogy," there's been plenty that have ended on far worse terms.

Lateralus42 11-13-03 09:54 AM

I think its the best Terminator ever, I love the ending.

peon73 11-13-03 11:55 AM

I think it diminished on my 2nd and 3rd viewing. The first time i saw it in the theatre, i walked in with very very low expectations, just because i had the notion that since cameron wasn't at the helm, anybody else directing it would suck. but it totally blew me away. thus 2nd and 3rd was more for, 'oh yeah, i remember that, that was cool.." feeling.

One thing i did enjoy seeing on the 2nd disc was a deleted scene of arnold with a southern accent, (him being a military guy) as the model for the t-800. "wow! it's me!"
it's a very funny scene, but if included in the actual theatrical version would have screwed up the vibe of the film...

drunkrob 11-13-03 11:56 AM

I enjoyed the moive alot more than I was expecting to but as we all know, low expectations helps. I liked the ending to the movie as well. Definately done to setup a potential fourth movie but still it'd be nice if more movies did something other than the cliche. AKA Matrix 3.

chanster 11-13-03 11:58 AM

Its a good film, not as good as T2 or T1 (I think the original Terminator is the best) but its a fun little movie that doesn't attempt anything more than a few cool explosions.

I miss Sarah Conner in the movie, but what can you do?

drunkrob 11-13-03 12:03 PM

The funny thing is I was one of those people who didn't really love T2 as it just wasn't the original.

fumanstan 11-13-03 02:31 PM

I think i enjoyed it a bit less watching it on DVD after seeing it in theaters. Still liked the movie though, and felt it worked great in the Terminator timeline.

DonnachaOne 11-13-03 05:38 PM

It's better after repeat viewings in the same way that a hammer hurts less after you've been hit in the head with it a few times, I suppose.

KevinSmithIsGod 11-13-03 08:40 PM

I just finished watchin the movie for the first time and I LOVED it..
I think its better than the 2nd in fact!!

PJsig08 11-13-03 09:06 PM


I think its better than the 2nd in fact!!
Whoa whoa whoa whoa. Don't get carried away now. I will say the 3rd is way up there with the 1st one.

DonnachaOne 11-13-03 09:34 PM


Originally posted by KevinSmithIsGod
I just finished watchin the movie for the first time and I LOVED it..
I think its better than the 2nd in fact!!

I would to say, on behalf of Kevin Smith fans everywhere, that the opinions expressed byKevinSmithIsGod do not reflect those of the rest of Kevin Smith's following. At all.





;)

tanman 11-13-03 10:10 PM

A decent movie....sure.

As good as the previous 2? Heck no!

True to its roots? no. I find myself thinking that about a lot of movies nowadays.

Kaffe_02 11-14-03 12:16 AM

I liked it in the theater and now that I can sit in my own home and watch it, it is even better. I really think the movie is paced well and I absolutley love the ending.

indycohiba 11-14-03 09:18 PM

Great, I am picking this up before the sales end tomorrow!

The Antipodean 11-14-03 11:44 PM

Held up great on a second viewing to me (although the big chase sequence wasn't quite as bombastically cool on my small TV). One of the best sequels in a year of misfires and lame ideas. I admire how refreshingly original the ending of this one was, very much the opposite of what I expected going in.

BlackBeauty92 11-19-03 09:08 PM

in my opinion, T3 was allot better than what i expected

is it better than T2? Heck, no!
T3 lacks the... umm... "destruction in epic propotion" feel to it (compare with T2). i mean, yeah, the chase was good, explotions, gun fight & such... but James Cameron used the real helicopter on real highway (not some small road on gettho area)...
T2 blew up a real building... & flipped of a real 8-wheeler-truck
& the way the cinematographer use the color, lightning Fx & stuff in T2 makes the film looks much flashy & nice (although most of the action took place at night... which is good, it made the CGI/FX looks more believable)

& also... in T3, John Conner looks like a big wuss.
he was great, brave kid in T2. now he's a wimp... he didn't show any intelegent at all, just whinning the whole time... i didn't see any leadership attitude AT ALL on John Conner in T3.

it is still a good fun mindless action movie though... but in the series, T3 must landed in the last position, where T2 grabbed the 1st thropy followed by original Terminator (for it's great suspense but lack of cool FX & "destruction in epic porpotion")

just my opinion

danicus007 11-19-03 09:52 PM

I really liked it a lot after watching it for a 2nd viewing today on DVD. I love the crane scene and I love the scene with Arnold vs. the Terminatrix in the bathroom. I was a bit dissapointed when I saw it at the theater because of expectations and the ending...but now I've settled down a bit and enjoy the film much more.

One question though
Spoiler:
why did Arnold look for the keys in the sun visor (like John showed him in T2), find them, and then hot wire the truck anyway?

SirPablo 11-20-03 02:15 AM

Something besides keys fell out...can't remember what though.

Also, I think this is one of the most beautiful endings to a movie I've ever seen...it's just the opposite of what you are expecting. And the shot of the prairie land at the end...just amazing.

jekbrown 11-20-03 02:22 AM

i think it'd get better if I could watch the movie in reverse. the kick azz chase scene was just too big and cool NOT to be the climax of the film (as they were in T1 and T2). Overall I liked T3 and it did a lot of things right... but pacing, IMO, was not one of them.

j

jekbrown 11-20-03 02:26 AM


Originally posted by BlackBeauty92
in T3, John Conner looks like a big wuss.
he was great, brave kid in T2. now he's a wimp... he didn't show any intelegent at all, just whinning the whole time... i didn't see any leadership attitude AT ALL on John Conner in T3.

well, he IS supposed to be rebelling against the whole idea of becoming any kind of leader etc. I never thought of John in T2 as being "great" or "brave". One can only assume that the war is what molds john into the kick azz leader he eventually becomes. This isn't so weird... plenty of examples of that kind of thing happening in real life. With respect to acting, the T2 john was marginally better than it was in T3 but thats about it IMO.

j

rennervision 11-20-03 07:01 AM


Originally posted by SirPablo
Something besides keys fell out...can't remember what though.

I believe what he found in the sun visor was a watch - not keys. It orginally seemed that was a deliberate, but subtle, hint indicating this was the same Terminator from T2. Of course, considering how T2 ended, I can't imagine how this would be the same one. And later, Arnold admits he is a different model - but, assuming the basic movie rule that anything you see on screen is always relevant somehow to the plot, why show him checking the sun visor if, in fact, he was different?

Spiderbite 11-20-03 08:43 AM

I rented this movie the other day & went in with very low expectations. A couple of my buddies watched it as well (unbelieveable that none of us went to see it in the theater) and all of us went in with low expectations.

All three of us liked it though. We were actually surprised that word of mouth wasn't better for this film.

I loved the ending. I would definitely recast Clair Danes character and John Conner though. A couple of the parts played for laughs feel a little flat but all in all, a good sequel.

My major problem with the terminator movies are...you send one terminator in the first one & he can't kill Sarah Conner.

So...you send another one (just one) to kill John Conner in T2. Dontcha think they should have figured out to send more than one terminator for the third one???


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