The main question I have is there more Agent Smith in this film than in the 2nd one? He's the best character (esp in the 2nd one) IMHO :D
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The Matrix series is simply a comic book (Heavy Metal or Metal Hurlant for the french) on the screen. It's that simple. And, as that, it works. in fact, so challenging, that if you weren't prepared to study the middle film, you would only reap the most shallow of benefits from it as well as the last. from all the reviews i've read (even the positive ones) most of the concepts introduced and alluded to in the middle film are either ignored, abandonded or shuttled in favor of the typical big budget spfx bombast- the kind of bombast that the fans have been saying this trilogy is oh so much more than. |
Well my friends just came back from watching this (I have to wait until tommorrow) and told me they absolutely loved it! They also mentioned that the ending is an obvious setup for a sequel with
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Originally posted by Toad I'm going to see it regardless of everyone's opinion here. No offense to anyone in particular, I don't know you at all, but I have the feeling a lot of people are overly critical for the hell of it, or had some high expectations that probably couldn't have been met. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you're like me and just want some entertainment (minus any confusion). If so, and you still came away feeling like you did, then I'll be in for some trouble. ;) the strength of the first movie was it's simplicity imo. the sequels are too complicated. too many characters. too much money thrown at overblown special effects, rather than concentrating on a simple story about a single character. |
Originally posted by gkleinman Here are my thoughts: http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=8168 "What began as an interesting philosophy discussion in The Matrix has quickly degraded into pseudo-intellectual babble, Matrix Revolutions is a balls-to-the-all action film, you'll be happiest if you leave your brain at the door. " They're great action movies, enjoy them for what they are, ignore that the W bros. want them to be more than that. |
"Silly humans, Matrix is for kids!" -- Gregory Weinkauf, NEW TIMES
:lol: So true.. so true.. :lol: |
Well...
... I dug it. Much better editing and pacing, beautiful effects, no overuse of slo-mo kung fu and characters knew when to shut the hell up. Is it as good as it could, or should, be? No. But I liked it. |
I think the following review, taken from IMDB, most closely resembles my friends' feelings about this third film:
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Of course, the big difference here is that my friends' feel a sequel is set up at the end of this film. |
Just saw it....... awesome..... f$%^ the critics.
Dont believe. Great movie... |
"Please someone, get me the blue pill. I want to forget that this ambitious and noteworthy series is ending so weakly." -- Nell Minow, MOVIE MOM AT YAHOO! MOVIES
"So disappointing they may as well have bussed in Ewoks to save Zion." -- Christopher Null, FILMCRITIC.COM (These are my exact feelings) -> "After all is said and done, I wish they would have left the trilogy to one." -- Danny Minton, KBTV-NBC (BEAUMONT, TX) "The Matrix Revolutions sucks." -- Peter Travers, ROLLING STONE "How did something that started out so cool get so dorky?" -- Manohla Dargis, LOS ANGELES TIMES "It feels tired, recycled and redundant as it shares many of the same faults that made the second installment a disappointing sequel for those who loved the original." -- Jim Judy, SCREEN IT! "Louder, longer, more expensive and dumber than its predecessors, Revolutions is a mediocrity that will provide escapism only to those who head for the theater exits." -- Colin Covert, MINNEAPOLIS STAR TRIBUNE "Drunk on itself and the possibilities of cinema to present allegory in grandiloquent gestures and crushing self-importance." -- Walter Chaw, FILM FREAK CENTRAL "Revolutions is nothing more than a 'B' movie script with an 'A' movie budget." -- Cherryl Dawson and Leigh Ann Palone, THEMOVIECHICKS.COM "The good news is that Neo Christ Superstar is indeed an improvement over its buzz-kill predecessor. The bad news is that it's still terrible." -- Sean Burns, PHILADELPHIA WEEKLY "Confronting Matrix Revolutions, you need your own veil of unreality just to wade through the misappropriated metaphors." -- John Anderson, NEWSDAY 15% on the "Cream of the Crop" Reports. :) |
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Overall, I liked it a lot better than Reloaded. I still feel the original Matrix should have been it. |
somebody told me that at the end of the movie
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Originally posted by Rypro 525 somebody told me that at the end of the movie Spoiler:
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It's a hundred times better than Reloaded.
But the original Matrix is 1000 times better than both combined. The only true flaw I could find is that they had 20-30 minutes worth of story stretched out to 2 hours. Not cool. The ending is pure garbage too. |
is there anything after the credits?
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Originally posted by Daytrip is there anything after the credits? |
Originally posted by aroney It always amazes me how we (critics especially) always tear down something once it rises above cult popularity. The list is endless. The Matrix series is simply a comic book (Heavy Metal or Metal Hurlant for the french) on the screen. It's that simple. And, as that, it works. Did we (critics) actually think the mysteries of the universe were going to solved for us? C'mon, get serious. Thank you! It's just a movie. Enjoy it for what it is. |
Originally posted by DonnachaOne No. Did you think there would be? |
While it did fall short in a few areas I'm sure when the DVD comes out I'll enjoy it more.
I watch Reloaded 6 times on release day and enjoyed it more and more each time. There is a vast amount to take in and process. Best movie ever? Hell no Best Matrix film? Not a chance Best action ever? Hmmmm....could be Worth seeing in the theater, buying the DVD, collecting the toys, statues posters, books and other items. Yes....it's a great trilogy and far more than a mere action film |
also i read a while back in entertainment weekly about something like a 15 min helicopter chase. is this true? glad to see that there are more gun fights then in reloaded. And please tell me that they got rid of neo flying.
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Originally posted by Rypro 525 also i read a while back in entertainment weekly about something like a 15 min helicopter chase. is this true? glad to see that there are more gun fights then in reloaded. And please tell me that they got rid of neo flying. |
alright i;ll shut up and see the movie
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I really do not understand why this movie is getting bashed the way it has. I really enjoyed it, and thought it ended the trilogy nicely.
Why are people having problems with the ending? Was it the way it was shown? do they (you?) feel it was anticlimactic? After my initial viewing, I like Revolutions more than Reloaded. Going into the movie, I was really wondering if I would have like The Matrix to have been the only film, but I am pleased with how it has played out. I'm looking forward to seeing it on the Imax now :). |
I thought the Neo/Smith final fight was too long but thought the movie was good nonetheless.
I'm looking forward to seeing it on the Imax now . |
What's wrong with Neo flying? It means one thing...
Wachowski's (Warner's Golden Boys) direct Superman. As long as they don't write the script 'nuff said. |
I thought the movie was really good. Not great, but really good.
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Originally posted by Giantrobo Thank you! It's just a movie. Enjoy it for what it is. I dont' understand this thinking. What if it is bad? How do you enjoy a bad movie? I can take stuff with a grain of salt, watch and enjoy cheese popcorn movies, whatever, but if this is as bad or possiby worse than Reloaded, I'll pass |
who's to say it's bad? you won't know untill you see it
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Originally posted by Rypro 525 also i read a while back in entertainment weekly about something like a 15 min helicopter chase. is this true? glad to see that there are more gun fights then in reloaded. And please tell me that they got rid of neo flying. Spoiler:
Anyways I liked the movie, and agent smith just owns too much He was born to be agentsmith, his mission in this planet is now complete. |
hugo weaving rules........even as Elrond in LOTR
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I'm baffled by those here that ask spoiler-heavy questions such as whether
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Anyway .. I *really* enjoyed the movie. The action sequences are truly breath-taking, especially the main battle sequence. The Neo / Agent Smith fight sequences were also spectacular, with amazing special effects. For me it improved on the 2nd movie in that there is much less of the meandering philosophising, and the movie concentrates on action. All in all .. for me, this will be *the* action movie to beat. I have two gripes with the movie though .. 1. Spoiler:
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Since it gives critics an opportunity trot out "witticisms" like:
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Alright..
Let me say this, I thought the first one was a good popcorn flick and should of been left at that. It could of been an excellent film, if just left alone. Then Reloaded came out , and a lot of people, including myself was extremely dissapointed. It was pretenious, boring and all around a diaster. It lost everything the first one had. After that, I had little interest in see'ing the series progress, but I had to see how it ended. Here comes Revolution's... What can I say? It is not near as good as the original Matrix, but it's better than Reloaded - which isn't saying a lot. Most of the film (70% ) doesn't take place in the Matrix, which takes quite abit away from it. The CG is still weak (most notably the machines ripped from Aliens). The acting is still alittle-bit out there , but it somehow seems better than Reloaded. All in all, I didn't enjoy it much, until the end. I loved the Neo Vs Smith fight near the end. It made me want the Washowsi (or however you spell it) direct a new Superman film. They have the flying, the fighting and everything down pat. With all that said, I still don't think this was a fitting way to end the trilogy. Then again, a series like this, that had a great start, medicore middle is bound to dissapoint in the end. There was no clear cut way to end this, and maybe that is why they shouldn't of bothered with the sequels , in my opinion. And with that said, am I the only one who felt after watching Revolutions, that it seemed like the second one was entirely unnessarcy for the most part? I sat through the second one, all through the pretenious dialouge, the zillion questions it posed and by the end of the third - most of them was either forgotten or truly just void. All the second one seemed to do was interduce 'Kid', 'Serph' (Orcale's Bodyguard), 'The Architech' and 'Merv' (French man). It seems as though Reloaded was nothing but filler, where as the real story started with original and picked back up in Revolutions. Also , I think it is safe to say they hinted towards a sequel at the end of this one. Will it happen? I don't know. I have to say I doubt it. The series has received a fair amount of backlash since Reloaded came out and now Revolutions, and the only true reason Revolutions is goin' to bring in the money is so people know how it "ends" and that is what WB is banking on. I doubt people will really care if Neo or the gang come back in a few years for another installment. I know I won't. |
just got back
I really don't know how I feel about it. probably the first movie ever where I left and wasn't sure if it was good or bad |
I'll spoiler this, responds to the three points
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Originally posted by Rypro 525 also i read a while back in entertainment weekly about something like a 15 min helicopter chase. is this true? glad to see that there are more gun fights then in reloaded. And please tell me that they got rid of neo flying. |
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During Reloaded I hated the Zion parts. So I was surprised that I was so into the Zion battle. The part I was looking forward to (neo/Smith) I thought was a let down, can't say why though, just a feeling. I really dug the parts in the Matrix during Reloaded. The first 10-15 minutes had that feel, wish it was more. |
I found the film pretty engrossing once you get past the first 10 minutes of the film. There's quite a lot to digest, I was dazzled by the action sequences, and the impact and import of them. To me, it's one thing to have mindless action for action's sake, but action in this film is used to drive the plot along to some rather interesting results and reprieves.
The gist of the Matrix trilogy to me is making that singular connection that overwhelms your total sense of self and enables you to find the courage to make things better for others, which becomes its just rewards for your own self worth and peace of mind. I think the middle act and the last act are some of the best action scenes I've seen put into one movie in quite a long time. Is it exhausting? Yes, but in a good way. Will all your questions be answered? No, but life's funny like that. I give it 3.5 stars, or a grade of A-. |
Did the actor who played Bane have his lines dubed by Hugo W.?
Or was the actor just doing a voice impersonation. If so it was right on. |
I saw the flick this afternoon and I didn't much like it at all, but I had fun watching it. Why? Every time the movie got a little preachy (like every 8th minute) the theatre would erupt with laughter. Nobody took the flick as a serious action movie but instead treated it like an ep of MST3k complete with random comments and all.
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Well, I saw the IMAX edition TWICE today. I really enjoyed the flick, but thought the first 25-40 minutes were rather dull and redundant. If the film had started with Bane waking up and Neo setting out for Machine City I think it would have ruled.
The action scenes were great but there wasn't enough emotional or intellectual payoff to the characters set up in Reloaded...and many of them seemed like filler.... I think that I could take Reloaded and Revolutions and edit them together into 1 completely kick ass movie... the stuff I'd take out you wouldn't miss and it wouldn't drastically change the meaning of the piece (most of the philosophical mumbo jumbo...sounds like a philosophy 101 text book) So overall I liked it, but really wish they had just made one lean mean movie, rather than two bloated average flicks. 3.5 out of 5 MATT |
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