I was waiting for some big color changing hair cause the final fight was such a Dragon Ball Z rip off....
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Yeah, the DragonBall Z at the end is so obvious that one couldn't help but see it. I wanted to shout "Kick his ass, Goku!"
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I haven't heard any interviews because the brothers aren't doing interviews, Jack. They obviously left the possibility open.
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During Fishburne's interview on Conan this week, he said it was the last one.
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Saw it last night in a half crowded theater. Entertaining movie! F*** the critics and those who bash it.
Obviously, not as good as the first (possibly better than reloaded), but not many sequels are! Return of the Jedi? Last Crusade? Alien 3? Goldmember? Superman 3? Godfather 3? I know that these are all different kinds of movies, but the same principle applies. We get used to it and it isn't new to us anymore. Hopefully, ROTK will be the exception. I look forward to the complete DVD set of the Matrix trilogy. |
Originally posted by jough I haven't heard any interviews because the brothers aren't doing interviews, Jack. They obviously left the possibility open. they've mentioned it in various interviews (reeves, carrie ann, and the rest of the cast) stating that this was the last one and they would be no way to continue it. it's over. |
I just hope they will do a commentary for the rumored matrix trilogy special edtitions.
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton they've mentioned it in various interviews (reeves, carrie ann, and the rest of the cast) stating that this was the last one and they would be no way to continue it. it's over. The statement that "there would be no way to continue it" is obviously false. It was left wide open for a sequel. I'm not saying there will be a sequel, I still think it's quite unlikely, but it seems silly for us to say that there absolutely definitely never will be. |
Originally posted by Philip Reuben The statement that "this was the last one" isn't one that's fixed for eternity. Minds can change, and eventually they might. The statement that "there would be no way to continue it" is obviously false. It was left wide open for a sequel. I'm not saying there will be a sequel, I still think it's quite unlikely, but it seems silly for us to say that there absolutely definitely never will be. |
Originally posted by darkessenz 1) -Is the architect the one who solicits Neo's help, or is it some greater external Machine AI? 2) The programs in the Matrix seem to operate on their own level of AI, a second generation of AI if you will. Do the machines have one general intelligence? They seem to be at the bidding of the source. Intellectual hierarchy anyone? 3) It seems like the Machines could have ended their deal with Neo after Neo helped the source destroy Smith. Does this mean they have "trust" or something? |
Originally posted by Daytrip thank you Mr. Pink |
Originally posted by Philip Reuben Is this a reference to Reservoir Dogs? I've never seen that movie :\ |
Originally posted by Rypro 525 yep, steve bucemi (i don't get why he called you that but oh well) |
For those who feel there’s still doubt regarding the ending of The Matrix Revolutions, the following pertains to the chorus heard during the final battle (and end credits) of this movie:
NEODAMMERUNG TEXT (FROM THE UPANISADS) Isa Upanisad 11 vidyam cavidyam ca yas tad vedobhayan saha avidyaya mrtyum tintva vidyayamrtam asnute Katha Upanisad 6.7 indriyebhyah param mano inanasah sattvam uttamam sattvad adhi mahan atma mahato ‘vyaktam uttamam Beyond the senses is the mind, and beyond the mind is reason, its essence. Beyond reason is the Spirit in man, and beyond this is the spirit of the universe, the evolver of all. (Mascaró 65) Katha Upanisad 6.10 yada pañeavatishante jñanani manasa saha buddhis ca na vicestate tam ahuh paramam gatim When the five senses and the mind are still, and the reason itself rests in silence, then begins the Path supreme. (Mascaró 65) Mundaka Upanisad 2.2.5 yasmin dyauh prthivi cantariksam otam manah saha pranais ca sarvaih tam evaikam janatha atmanam anya vacah vimuñcatha amrtasya esah setuh In him are woven the sky and the earth and all the regions of the air, and in him rest the mind and all the powers of life. Know him as the ONE and leave aside all other words. He is the bridge of immortality. (Mascaró 79) Mundaka Upanisad 2.2.8 bhidyate hrdayagranthis chidyante sarvasamsayah ksiyante casya karmani tasmin drste paravare And when he is seen in his immanence and transcendence, then the ties that have bound the heart are unloosened, the doubts of the mind vanish, and the law of Karma works no more. (Mascaró 79) Brhadaranyaka Upanisad 1.3.28 ásato ma sád gamaya támaso ma jyótir gamaya mrtyór mamrtam gamaya From delusion lead me to Truth. From darkness lead me to Light. From death lead me to immortality. (Mascaró 127) |
Originally posted by condorito On neo at the end Spoiler:
and yes trinity dragged way too long Spoiler:
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the architect didn't want smith unplugged, he just wanted neo to reload the matrix so smith and all the other programs could be reset.........no way the architect wanted smith reaking havoc inside his symphony of mathmatical precision
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Originally posted by Philip Reuben My thoughts on what other people have said... WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! MAJOR UNMARKED SPOILERS AHEAD! I think you misunderstood the ending of Reloaded. Neo was the One all along, but the One was not originally intended to be the person who would end the war, but the person who would choose the inhabitants of the new Zion when the old Zion is destroyed. The powers he has are because he is the One, and there is no concept of a "False One", but Neo saving humanity is not related to him being the One. But thanks for answering, just the same. :) |
Originally posted by Daytrip the architect didn't want smith unplugged, he just wanted neo to reload the matrix so smith and all the other programs could be reset.........no way the architect wanted smith reaking havoc inside his symphony of mathmatical precision |
I liked the movie. After reading through (most) of this thread, I still only have one question. Why didn't they have more EMP weapons INSIDE zion? Just as a final backup plan that would take out any machines that might have come through?
Also, this movie rocked on the imax screen. I don't remember the last time I went to the IMAX (was very young), but the sound and the visuals were absolutely amazing. The battle scene with all the APU's pointing up was tremendous; I wish I had that shot for my wallpaper. |
no EMP's because it would knock out their own systems........which might include life support............don't think the Hammer's did though so as a backup they should have at least thought about it
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Originally posted by Daytrip no EMP's because it would knock out their own systems........which might include life support............don't think the Hammer's did though so as a backup they should have at least thought about it |
Saw it on Wednesday, thought it was good...not great. But I did enjoy it. The Zion battle was really cool. But it left me wanting something more. I know we already saw many great fight scenes in the first two films, but I was really looking forward to some great kung fu/kick ass scenes. I enjoyed it though.
One thing that I don't think anyone has touched on, was the music. It didn't really do anything for me, unlike the previous two films. I thought the music in the Matrix and Reloaded was just great! A few scenes that I can think of off the top of my head are the lobby shoot out music, the highway scene music, burly brawl, etc. The music in those scenes just fit perfectly! It just added so much. In Revolutions, I just didn't really think the music moved me like it did in the first two. Anyone else? |
Originally posted by Kaiser Soze Saw it on Wednesday, thought it was good...not great. But I did enjoy it. The Zion battle was really cool. But it left me wanting something more. I know we already saw many great fight scenes in the first two films, but I was really looking forward to some great kung fu/kick ass scenes. I enjoyed it though. One thing that I don't think anyone has touched on, was the music. It didn't really do anything for me, unlike the previous two films. I thought the music in the Matrix and Reloaded was just great! A few scenes that I can think of off the top of my head are the lobby shoot out music, the highway scene music, burly brawl, etc. The music in those scenes just fit perfectly! It just added so much. In Revolutions, I just didn't really think the music moved me like it did in the first two. Anyone else? |
Originally posted by RocShemp Too true but given the chewing out Niobe & Co. received from Locke because of their using the Hammer's EMP, I'm sure if anyone suggested such a backup plan before Locke simply shot them down and kept such a suggestion from reaching the council (as they would have probably overruled his decisions as before). |
Originally posted by Daytrip a sentinel should have fallen on locke..........or even better morpheus should have kicke him in the junk Maybe they should make a sequel for the specific purpose of killing of Locke. :D |
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