have they said for what? (ie for "extreme graphic violence, tons of blood and gore, graphic sexuality, pursuasive languge, and lots of drug use)

Liked the review until he listed "Gattaca" as "famously bad."

I personally find "Gattaca" to be single most intelligent piece of science fiction put on celluloid in the past 15 years. The performances from the three leads are quite good and it shows that overdone special effects aren't a necessary ingredient for good sci-fi.

Even Rotten Tomatoes shows it pulled a 78% positive rating...hardly numbers for a "famously bad" movie.

Oh...wait a minute...this is a reviewer for Fox News. Guess I'll have to wait until a "real" reviewer critiques the film.

This is the type of person (I don't mean that in a bad way) where the movie will fail. The type of people & critics that don't know anything about the movies in which this film is a tribute to & are expecting the film to be a Jacky Brown/Pulp Fiction.

The ending isn't suppose to have a twist. It's suppose to feel a bit forced. It's not suppose to be Pulp Fiction. Why can't people realize this. It's a throwback to old, over-the-top, PLOTLESS & POINTLESS splatter-house martial arts movies. Nothing more. This movie is not being made for it's clever dialogue. The movie is not being made for it's inrticate plot & surprise ending. IT's being made for bad-ass action, great choreography & a deep passion for the genre.

Here's David Poland's new review:

http://www.thehotbutton.com/today/hot.button/index.html

He's a big Shaw Bros. fan and general exploitation movie fan, but he sure didn't like Kill Bill.

Let me just throw this out there: might we see a Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon style mini-backlash against Kill Bill from HK action movie junkies? While one hardcore genre fan might see a movie full of loving references, another might see Tarentino simply nabbing stuff from obscure movies and retailing it to a mass audience that doesn't know better.

But that's the same thing he's done with every movie he's ever made and every script he's ever written. There have always been people complaining that he's just ripping off obscure movies like City on Fire, American Boy, Badlands, etc. And now he'll have people pointing out the stuff he lifted from Thriller: A Cruel Picture, Dressed To Kill, Samurai Fiction, Game Of Death, Five Deadly Venoms, etc. etc. etc. The guy makes movies about movies. Love it or hate it, that's just what he does. He's a video store geek who's lived his whole life through movies, so he's always going to be referencing and paying homage (or ripping off) the stuff he grew up on. He's the kind of writer who needs to play off of other people's ideas.

Excellent question & I have to say no that we will not see this happen & I am a HARDCORE junky of this genre. If they are a true "fan" of this very specific & over-the-top- genre then the only type of people that will bash this movie are the ones that bash it just b/c it's "mainstream". As for you last sentence, Tarantino is not making this movie for the mass audience that doesn't know better. He is making this movie purely FOR the fans of this genre. He has said he is not making this movie for profit, he is not making this movie for awards, & he KNOWS this movie will offend & turn off the average movie goer. Unless of coarse he is lying but when you read his interviews & see his ridiculous knowledge of grindhouse cinema, it's near impossible to assume the guy is lying about this. This is suppose to be a throw-back to the Lone Wolf style of over-the top violence & I just don't see as one of the few fans of such a minute genre how one could be upset with this movie.

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Loved Gattaca.

I'll still go see Kill Bill though...looks pretty good.

Same here!

the latest EW states the MPAA did make Tarantino tone down the violence. (damn them!)

Yeah, I read the same thing. I got the impression that Tarantino worked with them, so hopefully the finished product is as close to his vision as they would allow.

Of course, the first thing I thought was "Hopefully, he plans to put the cuts back in for DVD".

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/4...0dee0000001610
"After seeing one of the extras split in two, Weinstein had a great idea for marketing the film..."

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Bill - Anime stylee
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i read they talked with him but it is an r uncut.

saw the trailer yesterday with the rundown, the kid finding uma and the other woman with the house torn up, was everyone's favorite part. ohs and ahs were heard throughout the trailer, and in the end, everyone seemed to want to see it (even the little kids in the theatre)

Rave review at www.aintitcoolnews.com

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Pulp Fiction that is...and it was the perfect preperation for Kill Bill :D

Does that come as a surprise to anyone at all?

now they say something about an epilouge at the end of the credits right?

Not at the end, just after a few seconds of credits, it'll get you as you're walking out in case you forget.

Hollywood-Reporter.com has a spoiler filled review of the movie up. The reviewer seems conflicted by the flick, on one hand he doesn't like it (it's relatively straight foreward, he didn't find it humorous, and thought all the characters were cold.) but on the other hand called it "Extremely watchable" by way of killer choreography, excellent cinematography, and great editing. And then added that Tarintino became a slave to the genres instead of reinventing it and it was kind of Overkill. After all that, he still seemed to be anticipating Vol. 2, and ultimately called Vol. 1 "incomplete". Can't really tell if it's positive or negative review, pretty much on-the-line I suppose.

That all said, it sounds pretty much inline with what I expected, and my anticipation for the movie continues to build. Finally saw those two OST trailers, awesome stuff.

On a side note - the films runtime is now listed at 112 minutes.

One piece of advice:

BEWARE THE HYPE. Go in Without Expectations

I got back from a screening today (I promise not to spoil a thing). But I do have to say that I'm sure people will be split by the movie. Some will absolutely love it, and others will certainly bash it. If nothing else it's a cornocopia of film styles with a lot of subtext.

The one thing I'll say is that Miramax splitting it into Vol 1 & 2 isn't a catasrophe and Kill Bill Vol. 1 does not feel at all short.

We'll have a review on the site in our aisle view section: http://www.aisleview.com if you sign up for the free Aisle View newsletter you'll get the review BEFORE it's up on the site.

What this movie does, whether you hate it or not, is make you want to see Volume 2, it doesnt end on a cheap cliffhanger but it does leave you wanting to see the story concluded.

if this big fight at the end of vol 1 is as brutal and violent as been said, then I can understand them wanting to show this movie in two parts. it would be hard for an audience to want to stay with the movie after a very long and graphic fight scene

Geoff, regarding your dvd talk review of the flick would you really have to see all or most of the shaw bros. and kung fu flicks to really enjoy the movie, or would most go in blind and still like it? for instance, I saw jay and silent bob strikes back blind with no kevin smith knowledge, and still thought it was funny as hell.