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mike45 09-14-03 11:42 PM

The best widescreen director?
 
Cinemascope, Cinerama, Panavision, Todd AO, 70mm etc. It has been over 40 years since widescreen cinematography has been in wide use in the movies. Certain films over the years have utilized the full potential of the widescreen better then others. The framing of the shot, the position of the actors within frame and the flow of action during the scene can be greatly enhanced in widescreen. But, there are quite a few films made today that just don't seem to take full advantage of that widescreen. It seems some directors may be shooting in widescreen, but are thinking in smallscreen, dare I say it fullscreen. Just which current or past Director makes or made the best use of the wide film?

fumanstan 09-14-03 11:59 PM

Ridley Scott does a good job, Gladiator is a great example.

kenny79 09-15-03 12:21 AM

Fincher. Watching his in pan & scan is icky.

groovrbaby 09-15-03 12:31 AM

I think wes anderson does the best widescreen job. The Royal Tenenbaums and Rushmore really showcase this as he always manages to fill the entirety of the 2.35:1 ratio with information and detail.

Bobby Shalom 09-15-03 01:03 AM

David Lean, IMO end of story!

greatjedi 09-15-03 01:06 AM

Bobby Shalom beat me to it. When I saw the thread title My first thought was David Lean!

Big Quasimodo 09-15-03 01:38 AM

My first thought was Terrence Malik.

My second thought was David Lean...

cameri 09-15-03 02:55 AM

Paul Thomas Anderson. As far as I'm concerned, Punch Drunk Love wouldn't be the same if it were shown in full-screen.

The Nature Boy 09-15-03 03:32 AM


Originally posted by Bobby Shalom
David Lean, IMO end of story!
I'm with you, but lets give props to Sergio Leone.

And I'd like to cast a personal props for John Carpenter who made it priority to shoot in 2:35 from Assualt on Precinct 13 when the whole world was in 1:85 land

eedoon 09-15-03 07:23 AM


Originally posted by Bobby Shalom
David Lean, IMO end of story!
Just what about I'm going to write just after I read the thread title. :up:

Tarantino 09-15-03 07:27 AM


Originally posted by groovrbaby
I think wes anderson does the best widescreen job. The Royal Tenenbaums and Rushmore really showcase this as he always manages to fill the entirety of the 2.35:1 ratio with information and detail.

elias 09-15-03 08:18 AM

Kurosawa, obviously!

MrE 09-15-03 08:36 AM

Franklin Schaffner
I don't know if he's the best but while watching Planet of the Apes on TCM last night I was pleasantly surprised. IMO the cinematography was more interesting than the movie. [misinformation deleted]

PalmerJoss 09-15-03 08:50 AM


Originally posted by Bobby Shalom
David Lean, IMO end of story!
The only director I thought of when I saw the thread title. See Lawrence of Arabia for a perfect example of why he's the best.

marty888 09-15-03 08:53 AM


Originally posted by MrE
Franklin Schaffner
I don't know if he's the best but while watching Planet of the Apes on TCM last night I was pleasantly surprised. IMO the cinematography was more interesting than the movie. If I read correctly Schaffner also directed the first Cinemascope release.

The first Cinemascope release was <b>The Robe</b> in 1953, directed by Henry Koster.

Schaffner didn't even start directing theatrical films until ten years later.

But yes, Schaffner had a good eye for using the scope.

Iron Chef 09-15-03 09:21 AM


Originally posted by cameri
Paul Thomas Anderson. As far as I'm concerned, Punch Drunk Love wouldn't be the same if it were shown in full-screen.
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His use of the format in Boogie Nights is very impressive as well.

Parcher 09-15-03 10:22 AM

Sergio Leone, anyone?

Carpenter is often credited best ws director. Michael Mann is awesome too.

Ginwen 09-15-03 10:32 AM


Originally posted by Bobby Shalom
David Lean, IMO end of story!
I can't argue with that, even though Sergio Leone is the person I thought of first (I guess Sergio can be second).

Hiro11 09-15-03 10:49 AM


Originally posted by elias
Kurosawa, obviously!
I totally agree, the guy practically invented widescreen framing with his fifties classics. Check out the famous riot on the stairs from "The Hidden Fortress", the rioters sweep down out of the extreme left side of the screen while the guards trying to restrain them cower far down on the right side of the screen. It's like Eisenstein's epoch-making "Battleship Potempkin"riot, but better and more exciting. The shot perfectly captures the energy of the rioters and the fear of the guards while filling the screen to the bursting point with information.

Honorable mention: Jacques Tati's "Playtime". Every shot in this film is in deep focus widescreen. The camera remains fixed most of the time and allows character and prop movement within the frame to tell the story. This movie is almost silent, all of the sound effects and minimal dialogue were added later. The fact that Tati makes it so visually revolutionary (no overtstament there, believe me) and funny is a tribute to his cimatographic vision.

Spooky 09-15-03 11:04 AM

Ridley Scott was the first director I thought of.

The Antipodean 09-15-03 11:15 AM

David Lean, without a doubt. Go watch "Lawrence of Arabia" sometime and tell me he didn't write the book on widescreen for the ages.

Ridley Scott? Gimme a break. If the cluttered CGI confusion of "Gladiator" is the best example we can come up with, I say "thumbs down". A decent director but not a widescreen master scenarist by any means.

aam1 09-15-03 11:41 AM

John Carpenter. Hands down.

VincentVega 09-15-03 12:13 PM

John Carpenter is my pick. I'll give credit to George Lucas too. He makes good use of the enire frame.

elias 09-15-03 01:52 PM


Originally posted by Sierra Disc
Ridley Scott? Gimme a break. If the cluttered CGI confusion of "Gladiator" is the best example we can come up with, I say "thumbs down". A decent director but not a widescreen master scenarist by any means.
Blade Runner is pretty impressive, but I wouldn't put Scott at the top. Obviously Lean (and Kurosawa!) are better. As are Leone, Carpenter, and others mentioned here.

Spooky 09-15-03 02:45 PM


Originally posted by Sierra Disc

Ridley Scott? Gimme a break. If the cluttered CGI confusion of "Gladiator" is the best example we can come up with, I say "thumbs down". A decent director but not a widescreen master scenarist by any means.

Actually, my thinking was just the opposite - an average director, but one that knows how to compose a widescreen frame...I wasn't thinking of Gladiator, I was thinking of Blade Runner, Black Rain and 1492...average movies, but visually stunning.


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