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Jepthah 08-25-03 12:54 AM


Originally posted by BizRodian
Watchmen is like, the greatest story ever told. If I became a billionaire, I would seriously buy the rights, hire a whole bunch of people and then make a word for word adaptation :)
And you'd be my hero. Can I co-write and direct? ;)

RocShemp 08-25-03 12:55 AM

The only thing I didn't like about Watchmen was
Spoiler:
the last part with Rorshach's journal. There wasn't really much information there to implicate Ozymandias of the destruction in New York, just the Comedian's murder. That's not enough to destroy his new Utopia (and fails as a payoff to his last conversation with Dr. Manhattan) so the final scene didn't evoke in me the reaction it should have.
Other than that minor gripe, I think Watchmen is a fantastic read and could only work as a long series of 4+ hour movies that are panel-by-panel adaptations of the comic book. The only thing that would have to change are the text pages. Perhaps they can be turned into interviews featuring the characters who wrote the books the texts are taken from as they discuss the same topic found in their writings.

RocShemp 08-25-03 12:57 AM


Originally posted by Jepthah
And you'd be my hero. Can I co-write and direct? ;)
May I produce and edit this collaboration? :D

BizRodian 08-25-03 02:34 AM

NO! ONLY ME AND ALAN MOORE! THE REST OF YOU CAN PISS OFF!

;)


The only thing I didn't like about Watchmen was:
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I think Doctor Manhattan said it best... when Adrian thinks he's cured all the words problems and united them over this one big cause. Asking if he did the right thing in the end:


"In the end"? Nothing ends Adrian. Nothing ever ends.
Does this mean Manhattan is explaining the future that Adrian is found out? if you ask me, no. But it says to me that nothing can solve the world's problems, it's always going to be like this.

Tom Banjo 08-25-03 02:46 AM

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;)

RocShemp 08-25-03 05:35 AM


Originally posted by BizRodian
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I think Doctor Manhattan said it best... when Adrian thinks he's cured all the words problems and united them over this one big cause. Asking if he did the right thing in the end:



Does this mean Manhattan is explaining the future that Adrian is found out? if you ask me, no. But it says to me that nothing can solve the world's problems, it's always going to be like this.

Okay. That certainly works for me. I think this ending probably didn't work for me cos it seemed like it was trying to be the typicial dun dun dun ending. It makes sense that it wasn't though it was certainly pretending to be (much as Watchmen wasn't truly about superheroes but about too much power resting in the hands of a few, how these crimefighters in the end arejustmen and women who screw up like the rest of us, and how the quick fix is never the answer).

BTW, other than the subtle hints in the book,
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is there everany clear cut evidence that proves once and for all who Hooded Justice really was?

BizRodian 08-25-03 01:47 PM

Watchmen, in my mind, is about how real Superheros would be, in our real world :)

to answer your question:

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I belive Moore, has said that Hooded Justice and the body builder guy were one in the same... though he had other aliases too.

Hooded Justice was killed, almost certianly by the Comedian. Read the almost rape scene where Hooded Justice kicks Comedian's ass. I belive by this time, Comedian already had goverment ties (remember, he was the only guy still making the papers) and he used them to get away with this. How? well remember it was suspected that the body builder was a communist? (Actually totally untrue, since Hooded Justice supported Hitler) Hooded Justice refused to reveal his identity to the goverment as well, right? Perfect reason to go after him.

Scot1458 08-25-03 03:14 PM


Originally posted by BizRodian
Watchmen is like, the greatest story ever told. If I became a billionaire, I would seriously buy the rights, hire a whole bunch of people and then make a word for word adaptation :)
Except for it's slam against Steve Ditko because Moore doesn't like his ideology. What a **** nut.

RocShemp 08-25-03 07:48 PM


Originally posted by BizRodian
Watchmen, in my mind, is about how real Superheros would be, in our real world :)

to answer your question:

Spoiler:
I belive Moore, has said that Hooded Justice and the body builder guy were one in the same... though he had other aliases too.

Hooded Justice was killed, almost certianly by the Comedian. Read the almost rape scene where Hooded Justice kicks Comedian's ass. I belive by this time, Comedian already had goverment ties (remember, he was the only guy still making the papers) and he used them to get away with this. How? well remember it was suspected that the body builder was a communist? (Actually totally untrue, since Hooded Justice supported Hitler) Hooded Justice refused to reveal his identity to the goverment as well, right? Perfect reason to go after him.

I agree with your take on the theme though I think it goes farther than that. As we saw in the book, thse so-called superheroes were as fallible as you and I. Yet the general public, for a time,saw that as being more than just the simple men and women they were.
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This is why I adore the scene where Dan and Laurie are attempting to have sex for the first time. It's not over glorified but rather simple with a hint of being comical. Very human.


As for your response pertaining to Hodded Justice's true identity, those were the subtle hints I was reffering to. I guess that really was him.


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