Supermallet

The big issue for me is that the chestburster comes out as a fully formed xenomorph. It's slightly less annoying in the assembly cut when the alien gestates inside an ox, versus in the theatrical cut where the xenomorph bursts out fully formed from a dog that is about the same size. That's just fucking lazy.

Also, in regards to Resurrection, I think it would have been received a lot better if the hybrid had any aspects of the xenomorph at all. As it is, the hybrid looks like a reject from an entirely different movie. It should have looked like a traditional xenomorph, but walked upright, no tail, and had a skull-like face with eyes. And they should have gotten Giger to design it.

Josh-da-man

Eggs. Ripley and the dog/ox were infected.

Josh-da-man

Technically, Alien3 is a competantly made film. But it's a horrible Alien film.

RocShemp

Although I agree the hybrid looked all kinds of wrong, it could have been worse. They could have used the creature that Joss Whedon suggested in his script. That had zero traits of both a xenomorph or a human.

EctoCooler

No, it's not even that. I do enjoy it. But no.

hanshotfirst1138

I'll tolerate the Queen still having and egg in her body and dumping it on the ship before her fight with Ripley, but I've never been able to get around them going into hyper sleep without discovering it. I would have had the computer examine every inch of the damn ship.

Why So Blu?

The dog alien that bursted out of the dog was small at first but it actually ate, so it got bigger faster.

That rottweiler it bursted out of was huge.

Lt Ripley

He was asking where the eggs came from.

A3 is a good A L I E N film. Not a good Aliens film. But a followup showing Ripley cooking Tewt eggs and pancakes would not be a good film. Tewt running around yelling Ahhhhfirmative isn't important to the Alien legacy.

A5 doesn't need Ripley in it.

Supermallet

The size ratio was still way off. Look at the size of the chestbursters that came out of humans. Those aren't even as long as our forearms. So a rottweiler has a creature in it that's half its total size? More than half? Where'd the rest of the dog go?

Why So Blu?

Forced perspective?

Solid Snake

I've seen you do this before... wtf is up with the Tewt?

Supermallet

I watched the assembly cut chestburster scene and the theatrical cut chestburster scene right afterwards. It's that way because the xenomorph was meant to come out of an ox. They used the same footage of the alien in both cuts. The only difference were the animals it came out of, and the shot of the alien retreating (which in the assembly cut is a CG alien running off, and in the theatrical is a backwards POV where we never see the alien).

Lt Ripley

My nickname for Newt.

"Nobody calls me Tewt, except for Ripley."

Solid Snake

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hanshotfirst1138

Isn't the implication that the xenomorph partially takes on the characteristics of whatever host the facehugger impregnates? Hence the quadruped creature in the third film and the half Predator-half-Alien creature in AVP-R?

Josh-da-man

I think so, yeah.

In the Colonial Marines comic book series (which isn't, to my knowledge, canon) there are aquatic xenomorphs which resemble dolphins. It makes a certain amount of sense that the paraditic, space-faring species would take on the characteristics of their hosts.

Supermallet

That would explain why the adult is quadrupedal, but not why the chestburster comes out as a smaller version of the adult.

brayzie

Forgot about that. Even when I first watched movie as a kid I thought "how did an egg get into the ship?"

Giger has one alien design where its standing upright, has large black ovals where eyes would be, and no tail. Looks somewhat similar to the Syngenor design. That would have been a good way to go.

Still would have had the fan-fic vibe to it. Why start experimenting with xenomorph hybrids when the films hadn't yet established what exactly the xenomorphs were. A species, a bio-weapon, a disease...?


I wondered about that after seeing Alien 3. It looks like the dog alien eats its victims, but according to ALIEN, it grew at a rapid rate without eating anything. Ashe described it as the perfect killing machine, something that can survive in any environment, the ultimate survivor. So with that I assumed that it only killed to ensure its survival and dominance in its new environment.
If it was seen eating, then that's seems like just one more example of straying from what was established in the first film.

Josh-da-man

Since it was originally supposed to come out of an ox, maybe the larger the host animal, the more formed the xenomorph is when it erupts from the host?

Josh-da-man

That's one of the biggest science errors in the original film, that the xenomorph grows from something the size of a ferret to something larger than a man in what seems like a few hours and without eating anything. Even if it did eat (and we can assume there wasn't a lot of food on the Nostromo since the crew was kept in hibernation), then it would still take time to metabolize the food into mass. As it stands, the thing violates one of the fundamental principles of physics.

inri222

Maybe it raided the food & water supply of the Nostromo and gobbled up hundreds of pounds of it.

Or maybe it ate a huge piece of furniture

Or maybe it consumes gasses for food

Or maybe...

Lt Ripley

As each film takes more mystery away from the xenos, the more boring the xenos become.

Shazam

Hey they're people just like you and me.

Lt Ripley

Show mommy how the xenos eat.