How much would The Matrix Reloaded have made if it was PG-13?
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How much would The Matrix Reloaded have made if it was PG-13?
Honestly, the film could have lost those few seconds in the rave and it would have made the film PG-13. I think this would have pleased everyone, as the rave scene was the low point of an otherwise great film.
But how much could TMR have made if it was PG-13. Instead of it's 135 opening take, I think it could have gotten 175. This weekend it could have made 65 Million instead of 45. How big a difference do you think the rating made?
But how much could TMR have made if it was PG-13. Instead of it's 135 opening take, I think it could have gotten 175. This weekend it could have made 65 Million instead of 45. How big a difference do you think the rating made?
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Shooting that guy point blank in the head and showing the hole/blood probably helped with the R. A second or two of the rave cut (actually about 20-30 seconds cut becuase it brought the movie to a screeching halt) and a cutaway from the body after the shooting, and it would have been PG13.
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There is no way to know how many 13-17 year olds bought tickets to Bruce Almighty and then snuck into Matrix Reloaded.
I don't think the rating made much difference.
I don't think the rating made much difference.
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It would of made a bit more money, that's for sure.
But it wouldn't be worth it to have all the "They toned it down to get a PG-13 waahhhh!" whines/posts that would end up in this forum.
But it wouldn't be worth it to have all the "They toned it down to get a PG-13 waahhhh!" whines/posts that would end up in this forum.
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It would have made virtually no difference.
It would have made virtually no difference.
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Plus, I really don't think many theaters actually stopped teens from seeing the movie. The theater that I went to checked tickets at the door but I don't think they cared how old you were b/c of the large number of kids there without parents.
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Don't forget the guy who got impaled, causing his blood to shoot all over his monitor. That was another one of the few (maybe even *very* few) spots in the movie that made me think, "OK, now that is R material."
As to the original question: I'm horrible at these "what if" scenarios, but I guess I'd say it would have made a "small" to "moderately-sized" box office difference. And of course, I lack the confidence to assign a dollar amount to describe what I mean by "'small' to 'moderately-sized' box office difference."
As to the original question: I'm horrible at these "what if" scenarios, but I guess I'd say it would have made a "small" to "moderately-sized" box office difference. And of course, I lack the confidence to assign a dollar amount to describe what I mean by "'small' to 'moderately-sized' box office difference."
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A little more to this point.
Where the impact will really be felt is in the coming weeks/months.
Kids under 17 make up a lot of the repeat viewing business for movies, even more so in the summer as they are out of school and have lots of free time to see movies. They won't be able to buy a ticket it to it in the afternoon when they're hanging out with friends and they're parents will be unlikely to accompany them a second time, much less 3, 4, 5 etc. times.
But it really doesn't matter as it's still going to make a killing. I predicted just under $300 million, and it looks like it has a chance to actually go a little over $300 so I'm sure they're more than happy with the box office take. And I'm thrilled that they didn't tone it down to PG-13 just to make some extra $.
Where the impact will really be felt is in the coming weeks/months.
Kids under 17 make up a lot of the repeat viewing business for movies, even more so in the summer as they are out of school and have lots of free time to see movies. They won't be able to buy a ticket it to it in the afternoon when they're hanging out with friends and they're parents will be unlikely to accompany them a second time, much less 3, 4, 5 etc. times.
But it really doesn't matter as it's still going to make a killing. I predicted just under $300 million, and it looks like it has a chance to actually go a little over $300 so I'm sure they're more than happy with the box office take. And I'm thrilled that they didn't tone it down to PG-13 just to make some extra $.
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I don't think it would have made much of a difference. Honestly, for every person that could've gotten in because of the lower rating, there would be some people that would've been peeved for them "watering it down". Also, the mega blockbuster R rating thing was actually a selling point for the movie, as if someone finally was able to pull it off. Seriously though the movie isn't pg13 and considering how hard it is to predict what the R rated Matrix would've made, I doubt we can figure out what the pg13 non existent Matrix would've made. Those figures would be an anomaly and would cause a system crash therefore nullifying the entire Matrix universe so...better to skip it.
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Personally I didn't find anything in it to really warrant and "R" rating... maybe that is just me but X-Men 2 was just as violent, and I don't believe I heard one F-word in the whole movie....
Should have been PG-13 IMHO and it would have broken Spidey's record but may have also taken a huge dive the following weeks also. Probably would have made and extra $30 million or so...
Should have been PG-13 IMHO and it would have broken Spidey's record but may have also taken a huge dive the following weeks also. Probably would have made and extra $30 million or so...
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I think Matrix would have made a ton more money. I manage an 18-plex and we turned away a TON of business opening weekend. The argument that lots of people bought Bruce Almighty tickets and then snuck in may be true in some cases, but that definitely hurt the grosses for Matrix.
I think if the violence had been toned down a bit, and a few of the curse words had been omitted or changed this could easily have warranted a PG-13 rating.
Do you think Titanic (with it's frontal nudity) would've made over a billion dollars at the box office with an R rating? If you do, I have an unsinkable ocean liner in Zion I'd like to sell you.
I think if the violence had been toned down a bit, and a few of the curse words had been omitted or changed this could easily have warranted a PG-13 rating.
Do you think Titanic (with it's frontal nudity) would've made over a billion dollars at the box office with an R rating? If you do, I have an unsinkable ocean liner in Zion I'd like to sell you.