View Poll Results: Just how good is Reloaded?
***** - excellent
30
22.73%
**** - very good
66
50.00%
*** - mediocre
29
21.97%
** - poor
4
3.03%
* - abysmal
3
2.27%
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Rate The Matrix Reloaded!
The film hasn't opened here in Finland yet, but I thought we should have a thread where you can assign The Matrix Reloaded a star rating from one to five. I know the four star system is widely used in America, but I prefer 1-5 stars because it allows you to rate the film mediocre - i.e. 3 stars. But I hope it won't come to that.
Also, I am aware of this thread over at Movie Talk but I thought it wouldn't hurt to have another one that merely asks for a star rating and not, for example, if you'd like to see the film a second time. And this one's in the right forum too!
Also, I am aware of this thread over at Movie Talk but I thought it wouldn't hurt to have another one that merely asks for a star rating and not, for example, if you'd like to see the film a second time. And this one's in the right forum too!
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I wanted to give it ** but decided on *** because parts of it WERE entertaining, and you can't dismiss most of the effects. However, the lack of tension, the ridiculous pot-head philosphy, and the general lack of flow of the movie really try to drag it down to **.
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First half ** - Boring and confusing
Second half **** - Exciting, fun.....and confusing
I guess that averages to ***.
Second half **** - Exciting, fun.....and confusing
I guess that averages to ***.
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BTW: I don't think any critics use a 5-star system. It's usually four-star max. On that system, I'd probably be a little nicer and give three stars as well. I really think the film is more honestly "Good" than "Mediocre". Too bad I was expecting "Excellent"
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I thought it was excellent. Totally got me off guard. . .in a good way. It wasn't afraid to do something you weren't expecting. . .and by that I mean do a "safe" sequel. One simple advancing the story as you knew it. Instead. . .it really made you second guess. It's also a movie that requires multiple viewings. I'm seeing it 2 more times in theatres. . .
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Originally posted by Decker
BTW: I don't think any critics use a 5-star system.
BTW: I don't think any critics use a 5-star system.
I really think the film is more honestly "Good" than "Mediocre".
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Originally posted by Tyler_Durden
[B]Good luck trying to find a critic using a 4-star system outside of the U.S.
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[B]Good luck trying to find a critic using a 4-star system outside of the U.S.
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I said 3 stars. I check AICN pretty regularly, and while I'm not a big fan of Harry Knowles, the guy who runs the site (he seems too uppity for me, always talking about how he is an insider), I totally agree with his review of the movie. Way too much fighting, not enough character. I mean, really, what was the point of the Agent Smith fight, other than to show off with a bunch of CGI. Neo was able to destroy computer code at the end of the first movie, but he seems to have totally forgotten that in the second.
He also revised his review here after seeing the movie again.
He also revised his review here after seeing the movie again.
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It sucked... dont be afraid to admit it
two stars at the most... the two big action scenes are fine, but even they become repetitive as they drag on... the story is crap, and the dialogue is terrible--even Lawrence Fishburne cant come to the rescue this time around. When people are laughing in the theatre during what are supposed to be serious dramatic moments, you know you have problems. If you really think that you can make sense of this crap and find inherent truths, then maybe you should apply for the Iraqi minister of information position. I hear they have an opening.
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I think this movie is incredible. I'm not just some fan-boy either. I went in not expecting too much just from what I had heard -- but I know that the philosophical stuff can be a bit much for a lot of people... but if you give it a chance and think about it... it's quite deep... and opens up the movie to a new level.
I mean... I wondered how they were going to put us into another movie and give it any sense of drama... when neo is the ONE!! I mean he's been DEAD ... and is now living... and destroyed an agent at will... how in the world are they going to create anxiety, apprehension or uncertainty in their audience...
Well they did... I mean... at the beginning of the first movie... neo doesn't know who he is... or what his purpose is. At the end he does again. But now they have turned all that on it's head. Neo doesn't know at the beginning, nor does he know at the end... and we are left to wonder what the true meaning of being the ONE is... etc... I think it's brilliant... and the whole conflict between freedom of choice, foreknowledge (oracle and architect), and causality is fascinating. It makes us ask and question even our own reality.
I mean... I wondered how they were going to put us into another movie and give it any sense of drama... when neo is the ONE!! I mean he's been DEAD ... and is now living... and destroyed an agent at will... how in the world are they going to create anxiety, apprehension or uncertainty in their audience...
Well they did... I mean... at the beginning of the first movie... neo doesn't know who he is... or what his purpose is. At the end he does again. But now they have turned all that on it's head. Neo doesn't know at the beginning, nor does he know at the end... and we are left to wonder what the true meaning of being the ONE is... etc... I think it's brilliant... and the whole conflict between freedom of choice, foreknowledge (oracle and architect), and causality is fascinating. It makes us ask and question even our own reality.
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I liked it better than I thought I would, especially after the crummy reviews it got. I gave it four stars, as I think it's an excellent movie.
Here's the problem. The first movie had no hype, and was an amazing piece of work. There's very little you can fault the movie for, and there is never a wasted second. Part two had hype it could not possibly live up to, and there are many wasted seconds, many seconds of "look what we can do" and several places where a few more seconds would have been nice.
So, instead of a great movie, it's merely a very, very good one. Some will realize that, and take it for what it is -- the second part of a trilogy. Some will want it to be as earthshattering as the Matrix was the first time they saw it -- there's no way it can be and still be a sequel. Others will see paths that could have been explored and weren't, and they will say the movie was a failure.
Here's the problem. The first movie had no hype, and was an amazing piece of work. There's very little you can fault the movie for, and there is never a wasted second. Part two had hype it could not possibly live up to, and there are many wasted seconds, many seconds of "look what we can do" and several places where a few more seconds would have been nice.
So, instead of a great movie, it's merely a very, very good one. Some will realize that, and take it for what it is -- the second part of a trilogy. Some will want it to be as earthshattering as the Matrix was the first time they saw it -- there's no way it can be and still be a sequel. Others will see paths that could have been explored and weren't, and they will say the movie was a failure.
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After thinking about it for a while, I voted on the "Mediocre" rating. The big action sequences were a lot of fun, but the movie was overlong and too "talky." I think with a few cuts here and there, it could have been a lot better.
As for being "deep and philosophical," I don't think so. It's about on par with a stoner taking a "Creative Writing 101" class at the community college.
As for being "deep and philosophical," I don't think so. It's about on par with a stoner taking a "Creative Writing 101" class at the community college.
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Originally posted by Groucho
As for being "deep and philosophical," I don't think so. It's about on par with a stoner taking a "Creative Writing 101" class at the community college.
As for being "deep and philosophical," I don't think so. It's about on par with a stoner taking a "Creative Writing 101" class at the community college.
Compared to the vast majority of Hollywood product The Matrix Reloaded is Shakespeare.