Would you Object to a Michael Bay style Sept 11 movie ?
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Well i personally think 9/11 is taken as a much bigger thing than it actually is...many people die from one incident in many countries the fact that it happened in america maked it big...even though i believe this i would want to see this event handled with care and quality film making for it was important because of its impact....i would really like to see a movie on the plane that the passengers fought back on
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Originally posted by funkymonk
Well i personally think 9/11 is taken as a much bigger thing than it actually is...many people die from one incident in many countries the fact that it happened in america maked it big...
Well i personally think 9/11 is taken as a much bigger thing than it actually is...many people die from one incident in many countries the fact that it happened in america maked it big...
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On topic, I'm not the boycotting, protesting, objecting type, but I probably wouldn't go see a Michael Bay 9/11 movie. But then again, I loved The Towering Inferno and the Airport movies as a kid. Those were gripping, tense films - but they also weren't real (even though high rise fires and plane crashes do happen, the movies aren't based on any specific events, which removes the "too close to home" element). I guess if the material were treated with decency, and with good writing respective of the weight of such a project, I suppose it could end up actually being a tribute. Look at the film "Alive". As Funkymonk alluded to, it just depends on the approach.
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I don't think its out of line to make such a film, just not anytime soon. There should be an obligatory 15-20 year minimum wait on turning any major tragedy into a movie. Pearl Harbor and Titanic were fine, but it would have been inappropriate and callous to make them on the heels of the actual event. Personally, I have a problem with a lot of those made-for-tv movies that capitalize on murders or disasters that get rushed out just weeks after the whole thing goes down. And Michael Bay would be a horrible choice to helm such a project, besides the fact that he is a total hack, he also has no tact whatsoever. If he's directing you might as well get Michael Moore to write the screenplay.
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Originally posted by Groucho
Yeah, Armageddon was nothing like the actual events described in the Bible. Hack.
Yeah, Armageddon was nothing like the actual events described in the Bible. Hack.
Yeah, I though The Rock was going to be an expose on the crack epidemic.
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Questions of taste aside: There are already several documentaries out there that are better than anything Bay could do. And the "effects" of the real thing far outstrip what Hollywood could achieve. So what's the point?
Not everything has to have a movie made about it.
Not everything has to have a movie made about it.
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I'll never get the backlash against Bay, all his films are popcorn films, big event action pieces, even Pearl Harbor, although lagging in the romance department had a truly epic, impressive attack sequence that pulled you into the film and I believe that this is what he does best, a main reason why I believe he went back into Bad Boys 2 to polish his action chops.
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Originally posted by funkymonk
Well i personally think 9/11 is taken as a much bigger thing than it actually is...many people die from one incident in many countries the fact that it happened in america maked it big...even though i believe this i would want to see this event handled with care and quality film making for it was important because of its impact....i would really like to see a movie on the plane that the passengers fought back on
Well i personally think 9/11 is taken as a much bigger thing than it actually is...many people die from one incident in many countries the fact that it happened in america maked it big...even though i believe this i would want to see this event handled with care and quality film making for it was important because of its impact....i would really like to see a movie on the plane that the passengers fought back on
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I don't think its out of line to make such a film, just not anytime soon. There should be an obligatory 15-20 year minimum wait on turning any major tragedy into a movie.
I don't think its out of line to make such a film, just not anytime soon. There should be an obligatory 15-20 year minimum wait on turning any major tragedy into a movie.
Which brings up an interesting question: should a "disaster" film be made about 9/11? Personally, I think it should, simply because A) the images from the WTC are so fantastic, so incredible, that even something with a respectful, documentary-style timbre would become a major Hollywood blockbuster; B) the very act of displaying such a film will remind everyone of the horror of what occured.
Think about it: 7 million Jews, and millions of other human beings, died in the Holocaust. Was Speilberg wrong to make Schindlers List? No. Going further back, was the US Army wrong to release color film footage from the concentration camps within months of their liberation? I think not... the goal was the show the world what atrocities they had found, and to teach future generations the truth about a horrific point in our history.
There are already grade school kids with no memory of 9/11; in 15-20 years, they will be of voting age, and it all will seem like ancient history. Movies often times are the best way to get through to young people; how many people only know the history of the Titanic through the film of the same name? Or only know about the details of the JFK assassination from the Oliver Stone film? (God help us.)
Do I think they should pervert the story and have Michael Bey direct? Maybe get Arnold Schwarzenegger to play Todd Beamer and give him an AK-47 and some plastique? "EVERYBODY OUT! DIS PLANE IS GOING TO BLOW!"
Maybe not. But should they wait for two decades before making a film? I don't think so.
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I love all of Michael Bay's stuff, even Pearl Harbor (but when I watch the DVD I skip ahead to just before the battle scenes ). Personally though, I don't feel 9/11 needs a movie at all. It's something still fresh in most people's minds and there are and will be enough documentarys and other stuff to keep it going for the people that want to see it. I think I read that there is a 9/11 movie coming out though called The Guys or something, about the firefighters and policemen that died.
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Re: Would you Object to a Michael Bay style Sept 11 movie ?
Originally posted by Original Desmond
You know how he perverts historical events
You know how he perverts historical events
Of course, I'm not sure what he did so bad historical with Pearl Harbor (his other films aren't even relevant). Yeah the characters were fictious, And there are definite liberties taken. But almost all movies do that, as these aren't documentaries. But I believe the movie is more accurate then it is given credit for.
That being said, I don't know how viable a 9/11 movie would be. People know what happened. With the exhaustive news coverage and the recentness of the events, it may be a difficult sell. And I'm not sure how many people want "relive" the events. It does seem more like a made for TV movie where they do some story on a recent tragedy/event.
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Originally posted by funkymonk
....i would really like to see a movie on the plane that the passengers fought back on
....i would really like to see a movie on the plane that the passengers fought back on
As for a Bay 9/11 film, I would not object so long as Ben Affleck was in it.
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