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Old 07-21-22, 05:18 PM
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Re: Is Leon the Professional that good?

Recently I read an article there was a script for a second movie, but since Besson and Gaumont feuded, he couldn't get the right, which let to Colombiana.
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OK, I guess maybe I'm off the mark feeling that the IMDB is low for this movie, I do feel it is one of the best movies out there though so for me it's easily a nine. Yes, it's subjective and people were put off by the flirty relationship between Matilda towards Leon and that surely resulted in some of the 6K 1.0 ratings but it's hard for me to think of any movie I had not seen in so long that holds up as well as this.
On IMDB, the original Ghostbusters has a 7.8 and Zach Snyder's Justice League has an 8.0.

Feel confident in disregarding the IMDB ratings for any movie.
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Old 07-21-22, 06:33 PM
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Re: Is Leon the Professional that good?

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On IMDB, the original Ghostbusters has a 7.8 and Zach Snyder's Justice League has an 8.0.

Feel confident in disregarding the IMDB ratings for any movie.
Sounds about right. Ghostbusters is such an overrated franchise. One good movie and that's it. Everything after has been shit.
Old 07-21-22, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Why So Blu? View Post
Sounds about right. Ghostbusters is such an overrated franchise. One good movie and that's it. Everything after has been shit.
But that first movie was a great fucking movie. If ZSJL is an 8 then GB84 should be a 72,
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Old 07-21-22, 06:37 PM
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Re: Is Leon the Professional that good?

Yep.

Yeah, I donít think the IMDb ratings are based on franchise.
Old 07-21-22, 06:45 PM
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I think you guys don't understand how an average rating based on voluntarily submitted user scores work.

Any such rating is going to be skewed by a movie/show with a rabid fanbase, since they'll actually make the effort to submit an actual rating of their own. Hell, they sometimes may even give everything else on the leaderboard an artificially negative rating to try and move their preferred movie up a few notches.

I stopped caring about reviews/ratings for movies a long time ago. They're, at best, a method to try and determine what I may want to watch, incorporated with other factors. But I don't use them to validate my own opinions, since everyone can have different opinions on films and TV, and trying to objectively rank quality is a fool's errand.
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Re: Is Leon the Professional that good?

Originally Posted by E Unit View Post
Yep.

Yeah, I donít think the IMDb ratings are based on franchise.
IMDB ratings arenít based on good taste either.

According to IMDB, JS Justice League as almost as good as Schindlerís List.
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Oh definitely. Jay G said he stopped caring about reviews/ratings a long time ago. I don’t think I ever cared about them. I like stuff that’s rated low and rated high, nothing else factors into that.
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Old 07-21-22, 07:39 PM
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Re: Is Leon the Professional that good?

This thread made me rewatch it last night.

Yes. It's still really really good.
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Old 07-21-22, 09:24 PM
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Re: Is Leon the Professional that good?

I've hated this movie for almost 30 years. Never saw what everyone else did. I found it a boring, mindless, meandering and often callously immoral mess.

That said, I almost want to rewatch it to see if my take still stands. It's been a few years. Probably a decade, maybe a little longer.
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Movie about a hitman? And a hitman training a 12 year old girl? Immoral? Say it isn’t so.
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Re: Is Leon the Professional that good?

Originally Posted by Draven View Post
On IMDB, the original Ghostbusters has a 7.8 and Zach Snyder's Justice League has an 8.0.

Feel confident in disregarding the IMDB ratings for any movie.
The imdb rating is an indicator nothing more, nothing less. If a movie is new the numbers are inflated, but over time the scores settle.
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I think you guys don't understand how an average rating based on voluntarily submitted user scores work.
I 100% understand it. Which is why I've never cared what the IMDB ratings are for anything, since they can obviously be so easily manipulated.

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The imdb rating is an indicator nothing more, nothing less. If a movie is new the numbers are inflated, but over time the scores settle.
How much time do I have to wait to get an accurate rating of Zack Snyder's Justice League? A delay just helps prove how useless they are.
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Yes, "Leon" Is a classic. Here, classic song + classic film:

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I recommend the 2-Disc Deluxe Edition of this on DVD. It has an extra almost 20 minutes and is NR. The extra time really fleshes out the relationship between Leon and Mathilda a lot, and they even go on hits together. Its almost like seeing a totally different movie!
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I recommend the 2-Disc Deluxe Edition of this on DVD. It has an extra almost 20 minutes and is NR. The extra time really fleshes out the relationship between Leon and Mathilda a lot, and they even go on hits together. Its almost like seeing a totally different movie!
The extended cut is called "Leon: The Professional" and is available on Blu-ray and even UHD Blu-ray.

Note how this Blu-ray states it contains both the Theatrical and Extended cuts on the front cover:
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Back cover notes the extended version is "Not Rated"


The UHD Blu-ray doesn't state anything on the front cover, but the back cover notes it contains both theatrical and extended versions.


I think you'd have to go back to the 1998 DVD to find a release that's labeled just "The Professional" and contains only the theatrical cut.


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I love The Professional, but when I picked up the 2-disc that has the Lťon director's cut that's what my spouse and I watched for her first time and neither of us liked it. The flirtatious scenes bring the story in a very different direction and are distracting from an otherwise great movie. It's obvious why they were cut. I'd like to watch the theatrical with her but I'm not sure if she's interested because of how off-putting some of that stuff was.

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You mean on the cover, right ? The theatrical cut movie itself still says The Professional.

It's obvious that those scenes were cut for the US audience only. Everywhere else played the longer cut.
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The extended cut is called "Leon: The Professional" and is available on Blu-ray and even UHD Blu-ray.
I think you'd have to go back to the 1998 DVD to find a release that's labeled just "The Professional" and contains only the theatrical cut.
What are these things, Blu-rays and Dvds, you speak of?
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I still love the "EVERYONE!" meme that came from this
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Old 07-26-22, 08:47 AM
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Yeah, the parts with Mathilda flirting with Leon were a little uncomfortable, but at least it wasn't reciprocated by Leon. He knew it was wrong and kept her at arm's length. He saw her mostly as like a daughter.
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Jean Reno has confirmed just that in some interviews he's done when he talks about this movie. He says he decided to play Leon as a "slow" version of his character that was in La Femme Nikita. That way the more outlandish stuff including the relationship with Mathilda and how he reacted to her seemed more believable.

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