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Doug Mathieson 12-23-02 06:47 PM

What is your favourite scene
 
What is your favourite scene

Doug Mathieson 12-23-02 06:50 PM

My favourite scene is the Elrond speech to Arwen where he says even if all her dreams come true with Sauron defeated and Aragorn becoming King she will still lose everything as he grows old and dies and she is left behind.
One point confuses me here. I thought Arwen was forsaking her immortality so thus she would grow old with him

Blade 12-23-02 07:07 PM


Originally posted by Doug Mathieson
My favourite scene is the Elrond speech to Arwen where he says even if all her dreams come true with Sauron defeated and Aragorn becoming King she will still lose everything as he grows old and dies and she is left behind.
One point confuses me here. I thought Arwen was forsaking her immortality so thus she would grow old with him

Per the Appendix, while she becomes mortal, she will still have a much longer lifespan than humans, even a human as long lived as Aragorn is/will be (he's older than he looks too, if I remember correctly).

As for my favorite scene...having only seen it once, I'm not ready to pick a favorite yet, but one that stood out for me was the openning scene wherein we get to see Gandalf do battle with the Balrog. I thought that was amazing.

invisigoth 12-24-02 06:00 AM

The scene at the Forbidden Pool with Faramir's men trained on Gollum as he beats the fish on the rock. Just like the book, probably the only worthwhile Faramir scene come to think of it.

Tom Banjo 12-24-02 08:23 AM


Originally posted by Blade
Per the Appendix, while she becomes mortal, she will still have a much longer lifespan than humans, even a human as long lived as Aragorn is/will be (he's older than he looks too, if I remember correctly).

Yep, it's been a while since I read this, but IIRC Aragorn was almost 70 years old in the trilogy, and lived to be 150 or so. Apparently, men of the Numenor line have longer life spans than other men.
Spoiler:
After reading about the end of Arwen in the appendix, it really makes me understand Elrond's views a lot better. When Aragorn dies (and correct me if I'm wrong but I believe she also outlives her children) she wanders in the forest in despair for a while and finally just lies down and waits to die.

agilliland 12-24-02 08:35 PM

My favorite scene would have to be either the drowning of Isengard or the attack on the men marching to Mordor with the Elephants.


Apparently, men of the Numenor line have longer life spans than other men.
Numenorian men have long lives because they are actually part elf. Early in the history Elrond and his brother Elros, who were both half elf and half man, get to choose their fate. Elrond chooses the immortal life of an elf, while Elros chooses to be mortal with a life span of around 300 or 400 years.

As time goes by and the blood line dissipates that time grows thinner. I am not positive, but I thought Aragorn lived to be more like 200 or so. He is certainly older than an uninformed viewer would know though.

MrX 12-24-02 10:04 PM

When Gollum and Smegol are fighting over who is in control him was a great scene. Also the Ent attack on Isengard was also great.

Calculon 12-24-02 10:35 PM

invisigoth stole my answer

Amator 12-26-02 12:08 AM

After Wormtongue meets up with Sarumann and criticizes Saruman's plan saying that he would need an army of thousands to accomplish that. When Wormtongue then looks out upon the mass of orcs you can see three distinct emotions - 1. Wonder that such a thing could have happened. 2. Fear in that he realizes the extent of Saruman's power. 3. Sorrow in that knowing that he has just (in his mind) help consign the obliteration of his own species. A single tear is shed from his withered eye as Saruman's apprentice realizes that the maiar's honeyed voice worked most deeply on himself all this time.

coldgreen 12-26-02 12:51 AM


Originally posted by Hari Seldon
After Wormtongue meets up with Sarumann and criticizes Saruman's plan saying that he would need an army of thousands to accomplish that. When Wormtongue then looks out upon the mass of orcs you can see three distinct emotions - 1. Wonder that such a thing could have happened. 2. Fear in that he realizes the extent of Saruman's power. 3. Sorrow in that knowing that he has just (in his mind) help consign the obliteration of his own species. A single tear is shed from his withered eye as Saruman's apprentice realizes that the maiar's honeyed voice worked most deeply on himself all this time.
wow hari i had almost forgotten about that scene. maybe because the pace of the movie was pretty quick and the tension was building at that point, i overlooked that scene. the tear holds alot more significance than i realized and i think a second viewing will allow me to notice things like this and appreciate them all the more.

ccoolidge 12-26-02 10:07 AM

The scene where the Uruk Hai and the Orcs are arguing over whether or not to eat Merry & Pippin. Shows the class system that Tolkien intoned in the books between Orcs, goblins, and the Uruk Hai. After decapitating one of the troublesome Orcs, the Uruk Hai captain stating "Well boys, looks like meats back on the menu!" had me rolling.

ccoolidge 12-26-02 11:41 AM


Originally posted by Hari Seldon
After Wormtongue meets up with Sarumann and criticizes Saruman's plan saying that he would need an army of thousands to accomplish that. When Wormtongue then looks out upon the mass of orcs you can see three distinct emotions - 1. Wonder that such a thing could have happened. 2. Fear in that he realizes the extent of Saruman's power. 3. Sorrow in that knowing that he has just (in his mind) help consign the obliteration of his own species. A single tear is shed from his withered eye as Saruman's apprentice realizes that the maiar's honeyed voice worked most deeply on himself all this time.
I actually thought that instead of (3), the tear was shed by beholding the magnificent army and the sheer beauty of it in his mind.

Amator 12-26-02 12:48 PM


Originally posted by ccoolidge
I actually thought that instead of (3), the tear was shed by beholding the magnificent army and the sheer beauty of it in his mind.
While certainly possible, I didn't get this vibe at all. I'll be seeing TTT for the second time tonight or tomorrow and will closely observe this again. But when you think about it, all Wormtongue wants is a bit of power from his master Saruman and Eowyn(of course). I'm not sure he knew what he was getting into and even though he's not a good man I think he did not want to his kind annihilated.

0ne 12-26-02 04:31 PM

I saw it as wormtongue was just in awe of the sheer devilishness of Saruman's evil and the scope of his power. He wasnt concerned with his species at all.

Groucho 12-26-02 04:43 PM

Legolas mounting the horse.

kenny79 12-27-02 02:27 AM

1. Gollum while Frodo and Sam are asleep.
2. Gollum at the end.

rushmore223 12-27-02 03:14 AM

As far as the Wormtongue tear goes, I am apt to interpret it as him realizing that he is in much deeper than he thought, that he truly may be partly resposible for something truly abhorred. As bad as he was, I am not sure Genocide was one of his goals.

My fave scene, just for pure joy, has to be The Ents attack on Isengaard.

Jolard 12-27-02 12:06 PM

It would have to be Gandalf's Charge with the Riders of Rohan down the mountain side into the mass of Orcs outside Helm's Deep. Absolutely spectacular, and gave me chills.

Close seconds

- Gollum fighting with himself, but not the one most people like, the one while Faramir (Sp?) is watching him while Gollum's back is turned to us. Something about the way that his had keeps petting himself was just creepy and incredibly well done.

- Gandalf and the Balrog
- Legolas mounting the horse on the run
- The attack on the Oliphants
- The whole battle of Helm's deep, especially the beginning, when the horde approaches and the Elves and Humans are waiting.

Liver&Onions 12-31-02 01:30 PM

When Gandalf first shows his face to Aragorn and crew. The look on his face was perfect, recognition, peace, and joy...he looked like a child. It was perfect.

hgar78 01-01-03 12:08 PM


Originally posted by MrX
When Gollum and Smegol are fighting over who is in control him was a great scene.
this was my fav also. i also loved the shot when gandalf ousts saroman out of the rohan king's body and the camera switches to sauroman falling to the floor.

HitManX 01-02-03 12:02 AM

The part right before the helms deep battle when the old guy releases his arrow too quickly was one of the best. The uruk-hai are just like "WTF?" :lol:


besides that, the whole helms deeps battle was great. The only part that sucked was when the film shifted focus to merry and pippin in the middle of an intense battle

TCG 01-03-03 07:02 PM

Here goes:

The scene in the middle where Elrond is telling Arwen about her future life. The scenes are beautiful.
The frames where Aragorn is lying across the bed/couch and Arwen looks out over the valley is as perfect (aesthetically) as I've ever seen.
Slightly below is when Arwen stands over Aragorn's tomb.

0ne 01-03-03 11:03 PM

hrmm my favortie scene? Can I say Helm's Deep? Does that count as a scene?

Troy Stiffler 01-07-03 03:17 PM


Originally posted by Groucho
Legolas mounting the horse.
That was probably the most energizing three seconds of film since the original Die Hard film.

There was just something about the seriousness of it all that gave me a chill down my spine.

Simpson Purist 01-09-03 05:32 PM

The entire Helm's Deep sequence and the destruction of Isengard.


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