atari2600

i just saw it and i never read any of the books so im a little confused at the end...actually alot of the basic plot i kinda missed so this will soudn stupid. but if someone care bare with me and answer them (should be easy) id appreciate it...

basically the entire last battle...it was 3 fights right?

the main one at the tower...is the significance there just all the humans went their for shelter? was that a fight to save the human race or were they after something more?

then the trees went to flood saraumons place even though his army was gone...why? why didnt they go to the tower and help fight in the real war?

and then finally, where frodo was - those guys were human right? why didnt they help and where were they? what city was that and why were they there?

thanks

oh...one more. damn i cant remember the names well but the place with the volcano is moldor right? thats where you must destory the ring. is it a city or volcano? whats the place called where sauromon lives? ah im so confused...

Shuki

I'll try...

1. In the movie, all of the people of Gondor and Rohan went there for shelter. In the book, the people went to other caves closer to where the king ruled from. But Helm's Deep (the place they went for refuge) was a super stronghold and they knew that Sauron and Sarumon were coming to conquer the land of Rohan. So they fled there as it was the best place to hold out and make a stand.

2. in the movie, the 'real' war didn't affect them so they weren't going to get involved. Then merry and pip wanted to go south to sarumon's place and when treebeard took them he saw all of the destruction the wizard and his orcs had done to the trees there so enraged, they took out sarumon and his place.

3. yes, human. warriors of Rohan. Rohan kingdom was a huge place and those men were on the eastern front attacking troops that were headed to sauron's to join his army. Thats why those men attacked the incoming troops headed to saurons. They then found frodo. and discovered the ring. Foromir (sp) wanted to take the ring back to the King in Gondor so they headed back away from the border of the land back towards where the King was. On the way they came to Minas Tirith where sauron's forces were coming in too. You had sauromon attacking Helm's Deep and Sauron attacking from the East at minas tirith. Those men in that city (minas tirith) were holding out and defending the Eastern border as long as they could.

4. yup volcano type mt. called mt. doom and/or mordor. and yes, thats where the ring was made and thats the only place it can be destroyed. Sauromon lives at Izengard. Sauron lives at Mt. Mordor.

Harlock415

Slight corrections:

1. Rohan and Gondor are separate Kingdoms, but are allies of old. So the refugees are all people of Rohan.

2. In the book, the Ents decided on their own to go against Saruman, but many "trees" wanted vengence on the orcs so when the dawn came to Helms Deep, there was a forest to the west (which wasn't there the night before) while Gandalf and the Riders of Rohan attacked from the east.

3 Faramir and the men who capture Frodo are men of Gondor who aree the neighboring Kingdom to Mordor and the first line of defense against the dark forces. The city they went to in the movie was Osgiliath, a city that had an eastern and western shore, one side on the east bank of the River Anduin which the enemy had taken. In the book, Faramir just let the hobbits continue with their quest and they were never brought to Osgiliath but remained in the hidden plains of Icthilian. Osgiliath is also the first line of defense before the capitol city of Minas Tirith. If the enemy takes the city, they control much of the river and have an easy road to Minas Tirith. That battle will be covered in the third movie. Minas Tirith was the city that Gandalf rode to to read the history of the ring.

4. Sauron doesn't actually live on Mt. Doom which is also called Orodruin. He is at Barad-Dur which is that tall Black Toer with the eye a few leagues away.

atari2600

is sauron even a person or just the eye? if thats part of LOTR 3 then dont spoil it unless its just suppose to be common knowledge about the triology.

Jackskeleton

You'll understand what "SHE" is in the third movie.

Inverse

A) The ents. The ents knew Sauruman was behind the destruction of the trees (which they cared about much more than his attack on the humans.) So the ents attacked Sauruman's tower first.

In the book, the ents *also* sent a forest of magical moving trees to Helm's Deep. When Gandalf and the riders charged the orc army, the orcs retreated into these trees, where the orcs disappeared. (The book hints that the trees killed the orcs in nasty ways.) This is *not* shown in the movie, but it might possibly appear in the extended edition DVD.

B.) Sauron. Sauron orginally had a physical form (as seen in the prologue of the Fellowship of the Ring movie.) When the Ring was hacked off his hand, he lost physical form. For many years, he was a disembodied spirit without form. He's regained most of his old power, although he appears only as a disembodied eye ....

... for now. Whether Sauron shows up in physical form in Return of the King is a bit up in the air. The book doesn't really specify either way.

Josh-da-man

It might help to think of it like this:

Gondor (Faramir's people) = The English (Anglo-saxons)
Rohan (Eomer's people) = Vikings (Nordics)

atari2600

ah sweet! thanks.

Tyler_Durden

Regarding Sauron... in FOTR, Gandalf at one point says that "he cannot yet take physical form". I'm not sure if this was only in the EE, which I saw a few days ago, or not.