Best (and Worst) Film Adaptions [spoilers]
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Best (and Worst) Film Adaptions [spoilers]
Some of us have read the book before it became a film while others have read the book after seeing the film - in the end, you are either a fan of both the film and book, or you hate one or the other.
"Jaws" comes to mind. I saw the film first, since I didn't know how to read novels at age 8, and it has been a favorite film of mine ever since.
I read the novel a couple of years ago, and hated it! With 20 years watching the movie over and over again, I got very familiar with the characters and storyline. The novel by Peter Benchley was totally different with its characters. It was a different story all together - Hooper had an affair with Mrs. Brody, for Heaven's sake!
"Jaws" comes to mind. I saw the film first, since I didn't know how to read novels at age 8, and it has been a favorite film of mine ever since.
I read the novel a couple of years ago, and hated it! With 20 years watching the movie over and over again, I got very familiar with the characters and storyline. The novel by Peter Benchley was totally different with its characters. It was a different story all together - Hooper had an affair with Mrs. Brody, for Heaven's sake!
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I felt that the novelization of Home Alone 2: Lost in New York was an infinite amount better than the piece of dreck that was the movie. The movie was missing the prologue explaining how the Wet Bandits escaped prison and went to Kevin's house again... this was critical
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Re: Best (and Worst) Film Adaptions [spoilers]
Originally posted by Buttmunker
"Jaws" comes to mind. I saw the film first, since I didn't know how to read novels at age 8, and it has been a favorite film of mine ever since.
I read the novel a couple of years ago, and hated it! With 20 years watching the movie over and over again, I got very familiar with the characters and storyline. The novel by Peter Benchley was totally different with its characters. It was a different story all together - Hooper had an affair with Mrs. Brody, for Heaven's sake!
"Jaws" comes to mind. I saw the film first, since I didn't know how to read novels at age 8, and it has been a favorite film of mine ever since.
I read the novel a couple of years ago, and hated it! With 20 years watching the movie over and over again, I got very familiar with the characters and storyline. The novel by Peter Benchley was totally different with its characters. It was a different story all together - Hooper had an affair with Mrs. Brody, for Heaven's sake!
A Clockwork Orange was one of my favorite films until I read the book. That final chapter is essential and it was completely removed from the film (even though it was filmed in England). It frightens me to read Traumnovelle (book that Eyes Wide Shut is adapted from) because I've heard most people say that the book is infinitely better.
Same thing happened with One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I don't like the way that Nicholson played McMurphy as a raving lunatic the whole time. That character has so much depth I, personally, felt was missing from the film
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Originally posted by fallow
Same thing happened with One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I don't like the way that Nicholson played McMurphy as a raving lunatic the whole time. That character has so much depth I, personally, felt was missing from the film
Same thing happened with One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. I don't like the way that Nicholson played McMurphy as a raving lunatic the whole time. That character has so much depth I, personally, felt was missing from the film
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The Godfather. Great film (again, saw it first) and a terrific novel! Just like "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest," the novel of "The Godfather" had enhanced dimensions to its characters - it was like peering into the fictional world from a whole new angle that was blocked from the film version. A genuine treat.
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John Irving -
The Good
Cider House Rules
World According to Garp
The Middle of the Road
The Hotel New Hampshire
The Painfully Horrible
Simon Birch - Irving was wise to remove his name from this production. I remember being excited about the movie when it was announced, but then I swallowed my own tongue when the director said, "We're just going to have to take out the whole Vietnam part."
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Cider House Rules
World According to Garp
The Middle of the Road
The Hotel New Hampshire
The Painfully Horrible
Simon Birch - Irving was wise to remove his name from this production. I remember being excited about the movie when it was announced, but then I swallowed my own tongue when the director said, "We're just going to have to take out the whole Vietnam part."
stoolie
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Fletch - Both the book and the movie were excellent because the movie didn't try to copy the book.
The Russia House - Good book but the movie was way too slow and tried to hard to copy the book.
The Russia House - Good book but the movie was way too slow and tried to hard to copy the book.
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Re: Re: Best (and Worst) Film Adaptions [spoilers]
Originally posted by fallow
But how would you feel if it you had read "Jaws" first?
But how would you feel if it you had read "Jaws" first?
I hated the book, and would never read it again because I thought it was a little boring, and the characters were unsympathetic. Hooper died in the book, but I didn't care that he died because he was represented as a cad in the book. Had Hooper died in the film, I would have felt badly for him because he was a good guy. Hell, when Quint died in the film, I felt bad for him because he had redeeming qualities, even though he was an arrogant prick (when he told his USS Indianapolis story, that made him human, that made him a person with feelings). In the book, he was one-dimensional, and though he did die in the book as well, I could have cared less.
With the case of "Jaws," it is a big surprise to me that there was a successful film adapted from it, despite the fact that the book itself was a best seller.
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Jurrasic Park - the book was MUCH better....
Jurrasic Park - the book was MUCH better....
The movie was a huge let-down. Too many "close calls," and Grant and the rest of the people didn't seem scared enough when being pursued through the jungle by prehistoric creatures. The scene when the boy - Tim - got electrocuted on the fence, and lived, that ruined the whole movie for me!
And Hammond was portrayed as a friendly old geezer who finally got the point at the end of the film. Meanwhile, the novel's version of Hammond was a friendly old geezer who never got it, that is, until he had his guts eaten out by one of the dinosaurs.
Then he got it, but good.
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Re: Re: Re: Best (and Worst) Film Adaptions [spoilers]
Originally posted by Buttmunker
That's a good point. Had I been older when the book was released and had read it first before seeing the film, I may have had a different perspective on the blockbuster film. I suppose there's a whole generation out there who have read the novel by Peter Benchley first, and wound up hating the film because it was adapted very PR-friendly.
I hated the book, and would never read it again because I thought it was a little boring, and the characters were unsympathetic. Hooper died in the book, but I didn't care that he died because he was represented as a cad in the book. Had Hooper died in the film, I would have felt badly for him because he was a good guy. Hell, when Quint died in the film, I felt bad for him because he had redeeming qualities, even though he was an arrogant prick (when he told his USS Indianapolis story, that made him human, that made him a person with feelings). In the book, he was one-dimensional, and though he did die in the book as well, I could have cared less.
With the case of "Jaws," it is a big surprise to me that there was a successful film adapted from it, despite the fact that the book itself was a best seller.
That's a good point. Had I been older when the book was released and had read it first before seeing the film, I may have had a different perspective on the blockbuster film. I suppose there's a whole generation out there who have read the novel by Peter Benchley first, and wound up hating the film because it was adapted very PR-friendly.
I hated the book, and would never read it again because I thought it was a little boring, and the characters were unsympathetic. Hooper died in the book, but I didn't care that he died because he was represented as a cad in the book. Had Hooper died in the film, I would have felt badly for him because he was a good guy. Hell, when Quint died in the film, I felt bad for him because he had redeeming qualities, even though he was an arrogant prick (when he told his USS Indianapolis story, that made him human, that made him a person with feelings). In the book, he was one-dimensional, and though he did die in the book as well, I could have cared less.
With the case of "Jaws," it is a big surprise to me that there was a successful film adapted from it, despite the fact that the book itself was a best seller.
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I won't make any claims for these being "best" or "worst", but:
The Godfather
Silence of the Lambs
Both were pretty mediocre popular novels, that when translated to film, nearly achieved the status of 'art'.
Less Than Zero
The Bonfire Of the Vanities
Both were great novels that were turned into absolute crap when filmed.
The Godfather
Silence of the Lambs
Both were pretty mediocre popular novels, that when translated to film, nearly achieved the status of 'art'.
Less Than Zero
The Bonfire Of the Vanities
Both were great novels that were turned into absolute crap when filmed.
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Best book-to-film adaptations
Fail-Safe
The Godfather
Jaws
Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Silence of the Lambs
The Shawshank Redemption
Worst
The Perfect Storm
The Bonfire of the Vanities
Fail-Safe
The Godfather
Jaws
Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Silence of the Lambs
The Shawshank Redemption
Worst
The Perfect Storm
The Bonfire of the Vanities
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Best Stephen King adaptions:
1) Misery
2) The Shawshank Redemption
3) The Green Mile
4) The Shining (I liked it in and of itself as a film, even though Kubrick left out all the human aspects from the book)
5) Stand By Me (based on the novella "The Body")
6) Dolores Claiborne
7) The Dead Zone (movie)
8) Christine
9) The Stand (TV)
The worst of the bunch:
1) Cujo
2) Thinner
3) Hearts in Atlantis (the book sucked anyway, so no loss there)
4) Carrie
5) Pet Sematary
1) Misery
2) The Shawshank Redemption
3) The Green Mile
4) The Shining (I liked it in and of itself as a film, even though Kubrick left out all the human aspects from the book)
5) Stand By Me (based on the novella "The Body")
6) Dolores Claiborne
7) The Dead Zone (movie)
8) Christine
9) The Stand (TV)
The worst of the bunch:
1) Cujo
2) Thinner
3) Hearts in Atlantis (the book sucked anyway, so no loss there)
4) Carrie
5) Pet Sematary
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Great:
Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas
Many people don't like it, but I thought Gilliam did a terrific job with it.
Good:
Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Rings
Jackson changed alot and left alot out, but how couldn't he? I didn't think a good movie adaptation of this book was possible, but he proved me wrong.
Bad:
Keeping with the Hunter S. Thompson theme, Where the Buffalo Roam.
I still kind of like it, just because of Peter Boyle and Bill Murray's performances, but the directing just sucks. The pace is way to slow and does a disservice to Thompson's writings "The Banshee Screams for Buffalo Meat" and "Strange Rumblings in Aztlan" on which it is based.
Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas
Many people don't like it, but I thought Gilliam did a terrific job with it.
Good:
Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Rings
Jackson changed alot and left alot out, but how couldn't he? I didn't think a good movie adaptation of this book was possible, but he proved me wrong.
Bad:
Keeping with the Hunter S. Thompson theme, Where the Buffalo Roam.
I still kind of like it, just because of Peter Boyle and Bill Murray's performances, but the directing just sucks. The pace is way to slow and does a disservice to Thompson's writings "The Banshee Screams for Buffalo Meat" and "Strange Rumblings in Aztlan" on which it is based.
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"A Simple Plan"
A mediocre book,
a mediocre/good movie starring Bill Paxton, Billy Bob Thornton, and Bridget Fonda
Decent premise - three fellows (two brothers & the brother's friend) finding a load of loot in the woods, but keeping the secret and the money hidden until they're sure nobody's looking for it. Seems like a simple plan (hence the title), but hoe-dee-doh, it isn't!
Thornton and the book/film's writer, Scott B Smith, received Oscar nominations (for supporting actor and screenplay, respectively).
A mediocre book,
a mediocre/good movie starring Bill Paxton, Billy Bob Thornton, and Bridget Fonda
Decent premise - three fellows (two brothers & the brother's friend) finding a load of loot in the woods, but keeping the secret and the money hidden until they're sure nobody's looking for it. Seems like a simple plan (hence the title), but hoe-dee-doh, it isn't!
Thornton and the book/film's writer, Scott B Smith, received Oscar nominations (for supporting actor and screenplay, respectively).
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I liked the story Johnny Mnemonic. I never saw the movie, but it's supposed to be dreadful.
Damnation Alley. Take a story about a Hells Angel blackmailed into going on a mission, make him an Army Colonel and add giant bugs. Yuck.
On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a great adaptation of a novel.
Kiss Me Deadly is better than the book.
Damnation Alley. Take a story about a Hells Angel blackmailed into going on a mission, make him an Army Colonel and add giant bugs. Yuck.
On Her Majesty's Secret Service is a great adaptation of a novel.
Kiss Me Deadly is better than the book.
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Re: Re: Best (and Worst) Film Adaptions [spoilers]
Originally posted by fallow
A Clockwork Orange was one of my favorite films until I read the book. That final chapter is essential
A Clockwork Orange was one of my favorite films until I read the book. That final chapter is essential
Interestingly, Kubrick thought the same way - here's a link with a bit of the old backstory :
http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~butting...ck/aco.21.html
The text at that site doesn't explain everything, though -- in fact Kubrick did become aware that there was an extra chapter in the original British edition of the book before filming. He read, disliked it intensely and ignored it.
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Kubrick is a son-of-a-bitch.
That said, I think his films are brilliant to a point of beauty. Thought "Clockwork Orange" and "Dr. Strangelove" were perfect and fair in its adaption from the source material.
I could never understand why he made certain modifications to "The Shining." Like, why would he bother changing the room number from 217 in the novel to 236?? Why did he kill Hallorann? Why didn't the Overlook Hotel's furnace blow up?
Lastly, why did Kubrick make Jack Torrance to be maniacal from the very start of the film, before he even got to the hotel? He was demented from day one, and showed no human qualities in his character at all. Why, why, why???
But I loved the film anyway.
That said, I think his films are brilliant to a point of beauty. Thought "Clockwork Orange" and "Dr. Strangelove" were perfect and fair in its adaption from the source material.
I could never understand why he made certain modifications to "The Shining." Like, why would he bother changing the room number from 217 in the novel to 236?? Why did he kill Hallorann? Why didn't the Overlook Hotel's furnace blow up?
Lastly, why did Kubrick make Jack Torrance to be maniacal from the very start of the film, before he even got to the hotel? He was demented from day one, and showed no human qualities in his character at all. Why, why, why???
But I loved the film anyway.