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Old 11-19-02, 08:59 AM
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"Hero" - Miramax pushes US release to end of 2003

According to Monkeypeaches, "Hero" is being pushed back all the way to end of 2003 by Miramax for the US market. In addition, the film has been cut to about 100 minutes by Miramax, which is not the director's cut.

The film is being released in Asia next month and is China's entry for Best Foreign Film.
Old 11-19-02, 09:18 AM
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what's the movie about?
Old 11-19-02, 09:46 AM
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Miramax are evil. This is actually standard practice for them, but most of the foreign language films they distribute in the US don't have the level of anticipation of Hero. Because of this it's not commonly known that they regularly make their own edits, screw with distribution, and in some cases even block distribution if it serves their own ends.
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Originally posted by wendersfan
Miramax are evil. This is actually standard practice for them, but most of the foreign language films they distribute in the US don't have the level of anticipation of Hero. Because of this it's not commonly known that they regularly make their own edits, screw with distribution, and in some cases even block distribution if it serves their own ends.
Not to reiterate what wendersfan has already stated but the simple fact is that a Miramax release is a mixed blessing, either you get great distribution or the film is subjected to massive scrutiny and reediting. I am sure foreign directors think about running the opposite direction when a Miramax representative approaches them when acquiring US film distribution rights of their film ("run away, run away!")
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There is really no need to know what the film is about

All you need to know is:

Director: Zhang Yimou
Winner - Golden Lion, "The Story of Qiu Ju"
Golden Lion, "Not One Less"
Golden Berlin Bear, "Red Sorghum"
Silver Berlin Bear, "The Road Home"
European Film Award, Best Foreign Film, "To Live"
Silver Lion, "Raise the Red Lantern"

Cinematographer: Christopher Doyle
Winner - Technical Grand Prize, "In the Mood for Love"
Golden Osella, Venice Film Festival, "Ashes of Time"
4-time Winner, Best Cinematography, HK Film Awards

Actors:
1. Tony Leung Chiu-Wai
Winner - Best Actor Cannes Film Festival, "In the Mood for Love"
5-time Winner, Best Actor, HK Film Awards

2. Maggie Cheung Man-Yuk
Winner - Best Actress Berlin Film Festival, "The Actress"
6-time Winner, Best Actress, HK Film Awards

3. Zhang Ziyi
Winner - Best Supporting Actress, Independent Spirits Award
Best Supporting Actress, Toronto Film Critics

4. Jet Li
5. Donnie Yen

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How about adress(es) and/or email(s) from Miramax to whom we should write.
(What does Q. Tarantino think of that?)
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I think this is just wrong for Miramax to do such a thing.

How will Hero get a nomination now for Best Picture?
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Originally posted by Grimfarrow
There is really no need to know what the film is about

All you need to know is:

Director: Zhang Yimou
Winner - Golden Lion, "The Story of Qiu Ju"
Golden Lion, "Not One Less"
Golden Berlin Bear, "Red Sorghum"
Silver Berlin Bear, "The Road Home"
European Film Award, Best Foreign Film, "To Live"
Silver Lion, "Raise the Red Lantern"

Cinematographer: Christopher Doyle
Winner - Technical Grand Prize, "In the Mood for Love"
Golden Osella, Venice Film Festival, "Ashes of Time"
4-time Winner, Best Cinematography, HK Film Awards

Actors:
1. Tony Leung Chiu-Wai
Winner - Best Actor Cannes Film Festival, "In the Mood for Love"
5-time Winner, Best Actor, HK Film Awards

2. Maggie Cheung Man-Yuk
Winner - Best Actress Berlin Film Festival, "The Actress"
6-time Winner, Best Actress, HK Film Awards

3. Zhang Ziyi
Winner - Best Supporting Actress, Independent Spirits Award
Best Supporting Actress, Toronto Film Critics

4. Jet Li
5. Donnie Yen
That's quite a line-up. Is it a Historical action film?
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Well, looks like this will be another "Miramax cut" i wont be watching. I guess i'll be getting this movie on DVD instead of seeing their hack job.


heh... "Hero: Miramax Cut" that sounds about right.
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goddamnit. hero is one of the few films i'm actually looking foward to.

why the hell can't someone distro a film AS IT IS??
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Re: "Hero" - Miramax pushes US release to end of 2003

Originally posted by Grimfarrow


The film is being released in Asia next month and is China's entry for Best Foreign Film.

So, it has to have a screening in NY/LA before the end of the year to qualify right?
I'm hoping, because I'll be in LA in late Dec.
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I'm not completely sure, but I don't think the same rules of having to screen in the states applies to foreign films, but I could be wrong.
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No, there is no stipulation that the film has to play in NY/LA to qualify for the Best Foreign Film category. Case in point - "Himalaya" was nominated a full 1 and a half years before its US theatrical release!

HOWEVER, if "Hero" were to qualify for all the other nominations (Best Film, etc.), then it must play in NY/LA for a week.
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A friend has received the press promo package in Singapore and it's quite something. Zhang Yi Mou could only shoot a certain scene at a lake two hours a day, otherwise the light wouldn't be right. The man's a perfectionist and the film's cast and crew is a who's who of Chinese filmmaking.

I bet the R3 DVD will be out before the US release if Miramax is pushing it until end 2003.
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Okay, I don't get it. It's a well known fact that a lot of people (myself included) have been salivating in anticipation for this film's release. Miramax can't be blind to this fact. It's also been commonly voiced that these people want the director's cut. What possible reasoning could Miramax have to re-cut the film when all it will do is hurt sales? It's almost as if the people at Miramax want to drive their own company to the ground.

Knowing what needs to be done to turn in the highest profit (release the director's cut) and doing the total opposite (re-cutting the film as Miramax sees fit) is sheer lunacy. At the very least, mind boggling stupidity.

If Miramax doesn't change their mind, I'm afraid I'm gonna pass on this movie.
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Time for more region-free DVD players.

Miramax gets the middle finger.
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You mean you havent been giving them the finger already?


If they do not release it as a directors cut then they will be ignoring the fans pleas.

They cannot use that "we dubbed it so joe public will buy it"

We know thats a load of crap...some of the people on this forum didnt even know what this movie was....and if people who are educated on movies havent heard of this movie what regular person is going to know?
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I think they want to market this like the next 'Crouching Tiger' but even that played subbed in major cities and was uncut. Damn you Miramax!
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Anyone has official words from Miramax on why they cut the movie? And why they push back the release date in US?
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Well, I will be the first to buy the bootleg of this. If Miramax can't handle the marketing and do their damn job I must resort to tealing.

Now the Chinese mafia can have my $$$, and not Miramax. Take that, Harvey.

EDIT to add: The boards at www.herothemovie.com show the release as Jan 13 2003.

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EDIT to add: The boards at www.herothemovie.com show the release as Jan 13 2003.

I doubt that's the release date as Miramax doesn't have it up on it's site yet and January is only a little more than a month away.
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Any news? Are they placing this to compete with the Matrices?
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I doubt if they will. Just saw the trailer in the theaters. It's beautiful.
You can try to watch it online:
http://www.herothemovie.com/trailer/index.htm

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