woody allen claims he is a "failed artist"
10-29-02, 05:17 PM
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Woddy Allen is one of the best directors. I also love his on screen persona. His movies are low key, which is Zelig! in my view is one of the best films ever.
What I don't understand is how can some people say he's a bad director because he married his adopted daughter. It's like huh?? what does his personal life has anything to do with his ability as a director?
What I don't understand is how can some people say he's a bad director because he married his adopted daughter. It's like huh?? what does his personal life has anything to do with his ability as a director?
10-29-02, 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by mikes0765
Woddy Allen is one of the best directors. I also love his on screen persona. His movies are low key, which is Zelig! in my view is one of the best films ever.
What I don't understand is how can some people say he's a bad director because he married his adopted daughter. It's like huh?? what does his personal life has anything to do with his ability as a director?
Woddy Allen is one of the best directors. I also love his on screen persona. His movies are low key, which is Zelig! in my view is one of the best films ever.
What I don't understand is how can some people say he's a bad director because he married his adopted daughter. It's like huh?? what does his personal life has anything to do with his ability as a director?
Like I said ~ If anyone else likes him and / or his work it's fine with me. I don't
10-30-02, 10:00 AM
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I agree he may have lost his "touch". However, I still very much enjoyed Everyone Says I Love You and Sweet & Lowdown.
I have yet to see Hollywood Ending and Curse of the Jade Scorpion.
I have yet to see Hollywood Ending and Curse of the Jade Scorpion.
10-30-02, 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by mikes0765
What I don't understand is how can some people say he's a bad director because he married his adopted daughter.
What I don't understand is how can some people say he's a bad director because he married his adopted daughter.
10-30-02, 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by neiname
Considering he's been doing the same routine for all his films I would agree with him
Considering he's been doing the same routine for all his films I would agree with him
10-30-02, 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
Yeah, Sweet and Lowdown was pretty much a shot-for-shot remake of Sleeper.
Yeah, Sweet and Lowdown was pretty much a shot-for-shot remake of Sleeper.
Small Time Crooks surely seemed like a much less funny Take the Money and Run. Agree?
10-30-02, 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by evitagen
I just saw 'Stardust Memories' in my film class. Are other Allen films as good as this one?
I just saw 'Stardust Memories' in my film class. Are other Allen films as good as this one?
10-30-02, 10:45 AM
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Small Time Crooks surely seemed like a much less funny Take the Money and Run. Agree?
Small Time Crooks surely seemed like a much less funny Take the Money and Run. Agree?
10-30-02, 01:04 PM
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And Another Woman is just a rehash of What's Up Tiger Lily except without the Japanese actors.
10-30-02, 01:14 PM
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Chalk me up as one of the very few who enjoy some of his later works. Of course I love his earlier classics but with the exception of Hollywood Ending (which was just horrible imo), his later comedies crack me up. I found The Curse of the Jade Scorpion pretty funny; not as good as his earlier comedies but funny nonetheless. Small Time Crooks wasn't even that bad. His last GREAT film, though, imo was Deconstructing Harry.
10-30-02, 01:37 PM
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I just saw 'Stardust Memories' in my film class. Are other Allen films as good as this one?
10-30-02, 02:11 PM
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For all the movies Allen has made over the years, I'd say the man has a remarkably consistent track record. No, he doesn't hit it out of the park every time, but with recent ones like "Hollywood Ending" and "Curse of the Jade Scorpion", it seems to me his intent was just getting on base. Nothing to make you think, just laughs. And I'd say he succeeded on that count. When he wants to do another "Crimes and Misdemeanors", he will.
And wow, didn't know there were so many Allen-haters around here!
And wow, didn't know there were so many Allen-haters around here!
10-30-02, 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Groucho
What's funny is that Soon-Yi never was his adopted daughter. Her adoptive father is Andre Previn.
What's funny is that Soon-Yi never was his adopted daughter. Her adoptive father is Andre Previn.
10-30-02, 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by Numanoid
The Allen-haters aren't interested in this bit of fact, as it distracts from their attempts to impose their "morality" into an unrelated discussion. You'll notice that the same folks who are the first to jump into a Woody Allen thread with "He married his daughter" are exactly the same people to jump into a Clinton thread with "He got a hummer in the Oval Office", despite the fact that it has NOTHING to do with the discussion at hand.
The Allen-haters aren't interested in this bit of fact, as it distracts from their attempts to impose their "morality" into an unrelated discussion. You'll notice that the same folks who are the first to jump into a Woody Allen thread with "He married his daughter" are exactly the same people to jump into a Clinton thread with "He got a hummer in the Oval Office", despite the fact that it has NOTHING to do with the discussion at hand.
Aside from that fact, I do believe that a person's private life can affect how their artistic work is viewed. Let's take the topic at hand. In some of Woody Allen's films, he has played characters that date ridiculously younger women. Knowing about his personal life, I have found it difficult to really appreciate some of his work. Plus, I see him and I think about him banging his wife's adopted daughter. It gets in the way of my accepting him.
This to me is the same as movie stars that allow their outlandish behavior to become public knowledge. I have a hard time thinking about Russel Crowe as anything other than an ***hole due to some of the things he has done. So when I see him in a role now, I have a hard time seperating his cockiness with the character he is playing. I try my best, but he doesn't make it easy. On the other hand, I know very little about Kevin Spacey's personal life. This really does help me accept him in any role.
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10-30-02, 06:41 PM
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10-30-02, 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by sherm42
Aside from that fact, I do believe that a person's private life can affect how their artistic work is viewed. Let's take the topic at hand. In some of Woody Allen's films, he has played characters that date ridiculously younger women. Knowing about his personal life, I have found it difficult to really appreciate some of his work. Plus, I see him and I think about him banging his wife's adopted daughter. It gets in the way of my accepting him.
Aside from that fact, I do believe that a person's private life can affect how their artistic work is viewed. Let's take the topic at hand. In some of Woody Allen's films, he has played characters that date ridiculously younger women. Knowing about his personal life, I have found it difficult to really appreciate some of his work. Plus, I see him and I think about him banging his wife's adopted daughter. It gets in the way of my accepting him.
10-30-02, 09:41 PM
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I haven't seen ALL of Allen's movies-- does he have any in which he doesn't play a whiny unlikeable Jewish guy? Maybe one where he plays a strong, likeable Jewish guy? Or a whiny, unlikeable gentile?
I am merely qouting someone else.
10-31-02, 07:59 AM
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Aside from that fact, I do believe that a person's private life can affect how their artistic work is viewed.
That's why I hated The Santa Clause and will not go see The Santa Clause 2. I just can't see Santa Claus being played by a drunk driving drug dealer. It gets in my way of accepting the character.
10-31-02, 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by sherm42
Plus, I see him and I think about him banging his wife's adopted daughter.
Plus, I see him and I think about him banging his wife's adopted daughter.
10-31-02, 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Souljahh
^ He isn't a bad director. I actually like him as an actor only cause of his neurotic behavior, not necessarily cause he's a good actor.
^ He isn't a bad director. I actually like him as an actor only cause of his neurotic behavior, not necessarily cause he's a good actor.