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nemein 10-15-02 01:02 PM

Windtalkers... watched the first 15 mins, before I waste 2 hours
 
please tell me it gets better than that.

I rented it and watched the opening scene (up until Nick's in the hospital) during lunch. From the onset (or maybe it's just my bias against him) I know Nick is the wrong actor for this role (or any role). The dialog during the opening ambush was 50s war movie cheesy at best. Not to mention one can already see that any sense of reality is not going to be part of this movie (how does he go from being surrounded by the enemy and shot down to lying in a hospital bed :confused: ). I usually like John Woo (although I haven't been too thrilled w/ his HW stuff) but I have a strong dislike of Nick (if you couldn't tell ;)). The basic concept of the story is very interesting to me, which is why I bothered in the first place. Is it worth the two hours to try and finish it?

vaporware 10-15-02 02:39 PM

Apparently you're the only one that was willing to waste 15 minutes of your life. ;)

HN 10-15-02 03:12 PM

Seriously, I could have sworn in one scene later on, Cage
Spoiler:
turns around really fast, shoots 3 bullets and 4 guys fall down
. Seriously.

--HN

nemein 10-15-02 09:39 PM


Originally posted by vapoRware
Apparently you're the only one that was willing to waste 15 minutes of your life. ;)
Unforuntately I decided to waste the other 2 hours as well... What a horrible result for such a great concept/story :(

lesterlong 10-15-02 10:14 PM

I really liked the movie. It just worked for me, I guess because Nicolas Cage played an a**hole who you were supposed to feel for I guess? I don't know I liked it, We Were Soldiers sucked.

badger1997 10-15-02 11:03 PM

I loved it. Went to catch a matinee shortly after it opened one day with a friend and he hated it. I know I am in the vast minority, but it just worked for me. It was cheesy but I never really had a problem with that. For me it was entertaining for a couple hours while my friend was wanting his money back only half way through. Oh well.

Chili Palmer 10-15-02 11:13 PM

Just got done watching this like 5 minutes ago. Caught it in the theaters and decided to test the HT. It sucked even more the second time around. The sound wasn't as good as it should of been, can't comment on the video (4x3), over all just horrible. Glad I had only wasted 99 cents.

Side note: Damn blockbuster only had P&S dvds for Insomnia!! WTF!!

IMO, We Were Soldiers is a way, way better film than this hunk of Woo!

joeydaninja 10-27-02 02:58 PM

When I watched Windtalkers, I was ready. I turned off my brain for any good storyline or script, and turned on my brain for just visual eye candy, and just enjoyed the fact that John Woo was directing a World War 2 movie, and so i loved it.

Unfortunately, I didn't do the same thing for the latest John Woo BMW film. oh well.

Geofferson 10-27-02 03:00 PM


Originally posted by nemein
Unforuntately I decided to waste the other 2 hours as well... What a horrible result for such a great concept/story :(
I agree. I watched this last weekend and was thoroughly disappointed.

matome 10-27-02 03:31 PM

What the hell happened to John Woo? Is this the same person who made <i>The Killer?</i>

SuperJim88 10-27-02 10:04 PM


Originally posted by matome
What the hell happened to John Woo? Is this the same person who made <i>The Killer?</i>
Yes in deed, and the same person who made "a better tomorrow 1, 2 and 3." with chow yung fat.....

jfoobar 10-27-02 10:54 PM

Since I have hated everything that Woo has done since he came across the ocean, I didn't even bother with this one.

Jay G. 10-27-02 11:04 PM

Woo did pretty good with the short film "Hostage," available at http://www.bmwfilms.com . It still suffers from an only fair script, but it's short and contains an excellent chase sequence.

matome 10-28-02 07:59 AM


Originally posted by JustinS
Since I have hated everything that Woo has done since he came across the ocean, I didn't even bother with this one.
While I thought <i>Broken Arrow & Face/Off</i> were decent (thanks in a large part to the casting, and fairly interesting storylines), it's definitely true that his U.S. films feel kinda watered down, when compared to his HK masterpieces. I guess there's just a difference between Asia & America in the interpretation of action films. His last couple of films definitely have that "sell-out" feel to them.

icondude 10-28-02 03:36 PM

If you check DVDTalk's review:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=4764

It got 2 stars out of 5. Rated as a rent it (or wait for TV, I presume). It's not that I like movie reviewers all that much, it's just that I have found the ones here to be fairly accurate with respect to my particular tastes (and the commentary about DVD extras is nice also). And at least DVDTalk won't automatically give a thumbs down to tasteless movies like other high-brow reviewers might.

badger1997 10-28-02 04:13 PM

I must be the only person in the whole world who likes his Hollywood films as much as his Hong Kong ones. I love The Killer and Hard Boiled but nothing else he did in HK did much for me really. On the other hand, I also loved Face/Off and Mission: Impossible 2 and also like Windtalkers. So maybe i just have bad taste or something, but I love his Hollywood action films. :)

ipkevin 10-28-02 09:05 PM


Originally posted by SuperJim88
Yes in deed, and the same person who made "a better tomorrow 1, 2 and 3." with chow yung fat.....
Just FYI, Woo had nothing to do with ABT 3.

indycohiba 10-28-02 09:13 PM

I suffered through 1 hour and 15 minutes before pulling the plug!

SuperJim88 10-28-02 11:35 PM


Originally posted by ipkevin
Just FYI, Woo had nothing to do with ABT 3.
Well, my bad, I'm not as big of , ahh how you say? ah yes, fan of woo as you, so yup, I must've been mistaken. :D

Dr. DVD 10-29-02 10:21 AM

I rented it myself on the day it came out and pulled the plug at a little over an hour. Glad I read the ending at moviepooper.com rather than waiting for such a lame pay off!

costanza187 10-29-02 08:44 PM

i know some people who went to go see it at the movies...they said it was REALLY bad....one of em said they wanted to leave in fact

Snowmaker 10-30-02 07:39 AM


Originally posted by indycohiba
I suffered through 1 hour and 15 minutes before pulling the plug!
That's about the same amount of time before I nodded off. I was in and out of consciousness for the last 1/2 hour or so.

devilpants 10-31-02 09:20 AM


Originally posted by joeydaninja
Unfortunately, I didn't do the same thing for the latest John Woo BMW film. oh well.
Damn, that was awful. I liked the part where the girl answers a cell phone even though her arms are tied up. Ed Wood lives!

Jay G. 10-31-02 07:12 PM


Originally posted by devilpants
Damn, [Woo's BMW film] was awful. I liked the part where the girl answers a cell phone even though her arms are tied up. Ed Wood lives!
Her arms were never tied up,
Spoiler:
she's just trapped in the trunk.


The BMW film kinda grew on me. On first viewing I thought the script was weak. The second time though the script didn't annoy me as much, and I was able to just enjoy the chase sequence.


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