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Gil Jawetz 12-30-04 11:15 AM

nearly 80,000 in Indonesia alone.

For those stuck in this thread, I've started one for links to relief donation sites and for people to show their support: http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=402843

It would be great if DVDTalk members could get together and donate a lot of dough.

al_bundy 12-30-04 11:20 AM

just donated $75 via Amazon

the average donation seems to be around $60 and so far only 77,264 have donated

Tommy Ceez 12-30-04 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by al_bundy
just donated $75 via Amazon

the average donation seems to be around $60 and so far only 77,264 have donated

But thats just through Amazon...if it wasnt for DVDTalk or Instapundit, I wouldnt even know if Amazon took donations

Flynn 12-30-04 11:26 AM

I HATE to be the one, but I agree with the previous poster who thinks we'll be seeing MUCH higher numbers once the relief workers and head counters can reach the outlying areas.

MonkeyG 12-30-04 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Giantrobo
I saw tape on FOX 11 news here in LA where this one man in Indonesia was crying and begging for America to come help. I hope he knows we're going to do the best we can. :(

Broke my heart when nbc aired the same man. There was no blame or anger in his voice, just genuine despair and a plea for any help. He mentioned something about how it was too late to save everyone, but they needed help to bury the dead. Just awful. I was hoping someone could tell him to hang in there, that the entire world was gearing up to help. :(

HistoryProf 12-30-04 11:30 AM

In Thailand they are preparing "Mass Cremations" to be completed in the next two days. They are trying to id as many people as they can, but the health concerns are too great and they need to get rid of the bodies asap. Horrific. I have a feeling these kinds of situations are going to result in many thousands of "missing" numbers in addition to the confirmed deaths.

Venusian 12-30-04 11:33 AM

can't they take pictures of the dead before they burn them? i know it may not lead to a positive id, but it's better than nothing

RevLiver 12-30-04 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Venusian
can't they take pictures of the dead before they burn them? i know it may not lead to a positive id, but it's better than nothing

Not after you've been rotting in the tropical heat for a few days. The heads and bodies are bloated, blackened, discolored and otherwise disfigured from decay. In some parts of Thailand they are taking DNA swabs from the bodies, but in most places, by this point, 4 days out, visual identification may not be so easy.

kvrdave 12-30-04 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by brizz
In Thailand they are preparing "Mass Cremations" to be completed in the next two days. They are trying to id as many people as they can, but the health concerns are too great and they need to get rid of the bodies asap. Horrific. I have a feeling these kinds of situations are going to result in many thousands of "missing" numbers in addition to the confirmed deaths.

Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised to see 10,000 or so die from cholera, etc. over the next month as well. Staggering.

Venusian 12-30-04 11:36 AM

I doubt most of these place can afford to identify each body through DNA.

grrrah 12-30-04 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Tommy Ceez
UC Berkley IS a generalization.

hey, I resemble that remark! :mad:

HistoryProf 12-30-04 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Venusian
I doubt most of these place can afford to identify each body through DNA.

The person I just saw speaking from Thailand said that there are teams of forensic pathologists at work there volunteering....still, you'd have to have dna to match the body with, so I'm not sure how that would work.

As a guy just said in regards to the decomposition in the tropical heat: "It's hard to tell caucasion from asian." Ugh.

Venusian 12-30-04 11:42 AM

I'd assume they'd match DNA to families

twikoff 12-30-04 11:57 AM

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/ne....php?id=111574


<small>
KUALA LUMPUR, Dec 30 (Bernama) -- The death toll in Acheh, the region worst hit by last Sunday's tsunami, may exceed 400,000 as many affected areas could still not be reached for search and rescue operations, Indonesia's Ambassador to Malaysia Drs H. Rusdihardjo said Thursday.

He said the estimate was based on air surveillance by Indonesian authorities who found no signs of life in places like Meulaboh, Pulau Simeulue and Tapak Tuan while several islands off the west coast of Sumatera had "disappeared".

He said the latest death toll of more than 40,000 in Acheh and northern Sumatera did not take into account the figures from the other areas, especially in the west of the region.

"Aerial surveillance found the town of Meulaboh completely destroyed with only one buiding standing. The building, which belonged to the military, happens to be on a hill," he told reporters after receiving RM1 million in aid for Indonesia's Tsunami Disaster Relief Fund here Thursday.

Rusdihardjo said there were about 150,000 residents in Meulaboh, which was located 150km from the epicentre of the earthquake while Pulau Simeuleu had a population of 76,000.

The contributions were from several corporate giants.

Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB), represented by Chairman Tan Sri Ahmad Sarji Abdul Hamid, gave RM200,000; Guthrie, represented by Chief Executive Officer Datuk Abdul Wahab Maskan, gave RM200,000; Golden Hope Plantations Berhad, represented by Group Director for Corporate, Legal and Public Affairs Norlin Abdul Samad, gave RM200,000; Maybank, represented by Head of Public Affairs Wan Norhiyati Ibrahim, gave RM200,000 and Sime Darby Group's Motor Division, represented by Director Yip Jon Khiam, also gave RM200,000.

Ahmad Sarji also handed over a PNB contribution to Utusan's Tsunami Disaster Relief Fund, which was received by Utusan Melayu (Malaysia) Executive Chairman Tan Sri Hashim Makarudin to help Malaysian tsunami victims.

Ambassador Rusdihardjo said a combination of earthquake and tsunami had left 80 to 100 per cent of infrastructure in Acheh province, such as hospitals, health centres, transport and communication networks and homes, destroyed.

"Looking at the scale of destruction, it's difficult to say when the search and rescue operations can be mounted in all affected areas," he said.

He said rescue efforts were hampered by transportation difficulties and lack of fuel.

Rusdihardjo said that at this time international help, especially in the form of medicines, clean water, food and clothing, were desperately needed by Indonesia to aid survivors in Acheh.

"Now we are worried about the outbreak of diseases such as cholera, the work of disposing corpses and the absence of clean water following the contamination of water sources," he said.

It would take years before the situation returned to normal, he said, adding that the Indonesian government was not able to estimate losses caused by the tragedy as yet.

He expressed his gratitude to Malaysia's help although the country itself was hit with 66 lives lost so far and property to the tune of millions of ringgit destroyed.

"We are deeply touched," he said.

Rusdihardjo said Indonesia was also seeking Malaysia's cooperation to mount search and rescue operations from its shores because of the close proximity of the two countries.

-- BERNAMA
</small>

ChiTownAbs, Inc 12-30-04 12:05 PM

400,000???!?!

Myster X 12-30-04 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by brizz
Don't mind Myster X....he's under the delusion that california is full of psychotic liberals - literally.

Perhaps you can tell me where I've said that?

mllefoo 12-30-04 12:09 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if we see the death toll skyrocket past a half million. Unfortunately, I'm not taking into account the deaths from the aftermath, the disease outbreaks and fights for survival that will occur.

HistoryProf 12-30-04 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by Myster X
Perhaps you can tell me where I've said that?

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=401010

Myster X 12-30-04 12:16 PM


key word: San Francisco
where's California?

LorenzoL 12-30-04 12:20 PM

Words cannot express the magnitude of this tragedy.

I was ashamed of myself when watching the news footage of the waves coming in thinking that it was reminiscent of the clips from Armageddon, Day After Tomorrow or other disaster movies.

HistoryProf 12-30-04 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Myster X
key word: San Francisco
where's California?

Where's Berkely? (the origin of this stupid digression....for which I apologize to everyone....)

succubiss 12-30-04 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by RevLiver
Wouldn't it be an incredible display of the kindness and generosity of the United States if <b>we</b> took just $1 billion of that $100 billion and diverted it to tsunami victims? Is this feasible?

If that bolded <b>we</b> in your statement refers to Congress, then that's fine. That money is American tax dollars you're talking about. If private individuals want to donate money to a cause they believe in, that's all well and good. But speaking as the devil's advocate, not everyone agrees that this money should be appropriated in that manner.


Originally Posted by RevLiver
Would it improve our image and reputation and make us less hated in this part of the world?

Unfortunately, I wouldn't be so optimistic.

al_bundy 12-30-04 01:03 PM

Unfortunately the thread title may need updating

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash5.htm

twikoff 12-30-04 01:09 PM

am I invisible or what?!?!?! :P

SomeVoices 12-30-04 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by al_bundy
Unfortunately the thread title may need updating

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash5.htm

I just saw this too. Holy shit...


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