Tidal Waves Kill More Than 120,000 in Asia
12-30-04, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Save Ferris
Would a strategically placed nuclear device detonated deep off shore cause a catastrophe like this? Would anyone even know for sure if an attack was made this way?
Do you think any governments are concerned about how to cause/prevent such an attack in the future?
Do you think any governments are concerned about how to cause/prevent such an attack in the future?
12-30-04, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ranger
Puh-lease. 
I think you and MoviePage simply missed my point.
Let me give you an example. Not long after 9-11, thousands of Palestinians rushed out to celebrate, burn the Ameircan flag, etc yet we give their government money. Now, I wouldn't dare stand in their way to express their hatred of us - the cost of freedom, but I do think it is clear that we should not be giving them money.
It's just one example. There are a LOT of countries we shouldn't give money (especially taxpayers' money) to.
I think you and MoviePage simply missed my point.
Let me give you an example. Not long after 9-11, thousands of Palestinians rushed out to celebrate, burn the Ameircan flag, etc yet we give their government money. Now, I wouldn't dare stand in their way to express their hatred of us - the cost of freedom, but I do think it is clear that we should not be giving them money.
It's just one example. There are a LOT of countries we shouldn't give money (especially taxpayers' money) to.
12-30-04, 08:00 AM
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Just watching CNN Headline news this AM and they just reported the death toll is up to 115,100.
No link yet.
No link yet.
12-30-04, 08:25 AM
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Apparently people are giving in record numbers. Online donations have been coming in so fast some servers had trouble keeping up. 
link to Newsweek story
link to Newsweek story
12-30-04, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kenny79
I don't suppose anyone's read/heard anything about East Timor? It's a couple hundred miles north of Australia, so I assume it's too far east to be hit hard, but still -- I got a friend working for the Peace Corps there and I'd like to remove as much doubt as possible. I didn't see East Timor on here:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapc...ths/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapc...ths/index.html
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/041230/ap/d879t2r00.html
12-30-04, 08:48 AM
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There's speculation that the administration may include a request for tsunami aid in its next request for money for the Iraq War. Estimates of the amount to be requested for the Iraq War range from $75 to $100 billion. The UN has estimated the relief needed to be about $1 billion. Wouldn't it be an incredible display of the kindness and generosity of the United States if we took just $1 billion of that $100 billion and diverted it to tsunami victims? Is this feasible? Would it improve our image and reputation and make us less hated in this part of the world?
12-30-04, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Grimfarrow
Uhmmm...hello - YES THEY DO. Try going there first before you refute someone.
http://www.balivision.com/Article_Re...troduction.asp
12-30-04, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RevLiver
Would it improve our image and reputation and make us less hated in this part of the world?
improve image - probably only to Americans.
improve reputation/less hated - doubtful.
12-30-04, 09:05 AM
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Whoops, you're right. It's an animist form of Hinduism. I just went there 6 months ago, but I stayed in the North, where it's predominantly Buddhist. That's where I got confused. Sorry.
12-30-04, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by nevermind
improve image - probably only to Americans.
improve reputation/less hated - doubtful.
improve reputation/less hated - doubtful.
I saw tape on FOX 11 news here in LA where this one man in Indonesia was crying and begging for America to come help. I hope he knows we're going to do the best we can.
12-30-04, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Giantrobo
I saw tape of this one man in Indonesia crying and begging for America to com help. I hope he knows we're going to do the best we can.
Best case scenario, IMO: a billion dollars will not improve our image or reputation, but it might keep it from getting worse. Of course a billion dollars won't make some people (including some in the US) happy, when more is going to the war, but you know what they say - damned if you do, damned if you don't (which George should be used to).
12-30-04, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by nevermind
I'm not saying we shouldn't do anything - I think giving a billion out of the Iraq funding is a good idea.
Best case scenario, IMO: a billion dollars will not improve our image or reputation, but it might keep it from getting worse. Of course a billion dollars won't make some people (including some in the US) happy, when more is going to the war, but you know what they say - damned if you do, damned if you don't (which George should be used to).
Best case scenario, IMO: a billion dollars will not improve our image or reputation, but it might keep it from getting worse. Of course a billion dollars won't make some people (including some in the US) happy, when more is going to the war, but you know what they say - damned if you do, damned if you don't (which George should be used to).
I see your point. My post wasn't directed at you but your post did remind me of that video.
12-30-04, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Grimfarrow
Whoops, you're right. It's an animist form of Hinduism. I just went there 6 months ago, but I stayed in the North, where it's predominantly Buddhist. That's where I got confused. Sorry.
It's all good, my man.
12-30-04, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FiveO
Just watching CNN Headline news this AM and they just reported the death toll is up to 115,100.
No link yet.
No link yet.
http://reuters.myway.com/article/200...-QUAKE-DC.html
12-30-04, 09:57 AM
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Wow, this thing is hitting closer & closer.
I just talked to my buddy, and he found out today that a colleague of his drowned during a vacation in Sri Lanka.
And a teacher at my old German high school is reported missing in Phuket. The chance of him surviving is very low.
Needless to say, it's going to be one gloomy New Year.
I just talked to my buddy, and he found out today that a colleague of his drowned during a vacation in Sri Lanka.
And a teacher at my old German high school is reported missing in Phuket. The chance of him surviving is very low.
Needless to say, it's going to be one gloomy New Year.
12-30-04, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by kuroiinu
Even if you don't agree with Egeland, it makes no sense to generalize like that,
12-30-04, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by kuroiinu
Even if you don't agree with Egeland, it makes no sense to generalize like that,
MSNBC just said that the toll in Indonesia alone is now near 100,000 - they just got to one town that was completely devastated, with 15-20,000 more dead there. Utterly and completely amazing.