sararekuforever

Then go to mature forum where everyone is macho and manly and super straight and has engagements of pleasure until their anatomy is sore and tired...because they live to drink beer and have women

JasonF

Whoa ... I feel like I just found out Santa Claus isn't real.

Note to all children reading this thread: Santa Claus is real, of course. I'm just saying it's like if I found out that (hypothetically speaking) Santa Claus isn't real. Again, I repeat -- Santa Claus is real.

The Easter Bunny, however, is a lie perpetrated by the fat cats in the jelly bean industry.

El Scorcho

This thread is like being on e-ecstasy.

tonyc3742

Technically still stealing. I would have voted for something between 'you're going to hell' and 'it'll never hurt you.'

Besides:

These potato chips on the shelf at Harris Teeter aren't very good, I'm only going to eat one.

The car I stole, I only drove five miles.

I only robbed the bank of 10000$, they've got millions.

I only killed one person out of 9 billion in the world.

Hopefully that's hyperbole, but maybe this will start you down the slippery slope of moral relativism....

How much for a bag of hair things anyway?

When I worked at Dollar Tree, I had a lady come in for a comb. We had a packet of 20 combs of all different sizes/styles for, yes, one dollar. Quite the bargain, I thought. She didn't buy it, because she only wanted one comb. So she went next door to Kmart to buy one comb, which probably cost 1.50. I was like, Just buy the stupid thing, take the one you want out, and throw the rest away, I don't care. Or donate them to a homeless shelter or something. It's a DOLLAR! I never understood paying more and getting less.

sararekuforever

I made a document for a Hello Kitty/Sanrio RPG. If ugly plumber gets one, so does Kitty chan. = D = D <3

sararekuforever

The bag of hair things was $5, which isn't bad at all if the hair things are really good or at least decent.

kvrdave

kvrdave

That does sound like my thing, but I don't hang out there.

I'm an Otter Hermit

VinVega

It's ok kvr. We love you, we just don't "LOVE" you, if you know what I'm talking about.

wendersfan

"Engagements of Pleasure"????

Sounds like a porno directed by Merchant/Ivory.

Jalizarin

so, buy one bag of hair things. if they suck, throw them out and try another next time. if you can't afford to lose $5 on bad hair things, maybe you shouldn't be buying them to start with? lol.

you stole, dont justify it, but i think your mom kinda blew up at you bigger than she had to.

DodgingCars

Claim: Actress Jamie Lee Curtis was born with both male and female sex organs.
Status: Undetermined.


Origins: What
to make of the child of two successful and famous actors who grows up to achieve an equal measure of fame in the same field? What if this gal has a boyish-sounding name and adopts children rather than bears her own?

A rumor, apparently. And not a very nice one.

According to an oft-repeated whisper, Jamie Lee Curtis is an intersexual (the preferred medical term for persons of ambiguous gender, replacing 'hermaphrodite').

So? Is she, or isn't she?

We may never know. No one but Ms. Curtis, her parents, and her doctors has the definitive answer to this one, and none of them is talking. Curtis has repeatedly declined deigning to provide a response to this rumor, and her physicians — even if they had something to say and wanted to say it — are bound by doctor-patient confidentiality strictures.

This rumor is often lent credibility by people who have heard it repeated as fact by their university professors (especially those with specialties relating to intersexuality). Neither the hearer nor the teller ever seems to be able to provide a credible explanation of how he knows this piece of information to be true, the chain of transmission always tracing back to the notoriously unreliable "Someone else told me about it." As happens over and over, even the most trusted of sources can sometimes take a widespread rumor at face value, then parrot it as fact.

Okay, so we simply don't know. Why, then, is this rumor so widespread?

Jamie Lee is the daughter of Tony Curtis and Janet Leigh. At the time of Jamie Lee's arrival into this world, her father was a roguishly good-looking leading man, an actor female moviegoers couldn't help but swoon over. Her mother was a beauty and a renowned actress. Their union produced two daughters, Kelly Lee in 1956 and Jamie Lee in 1958.

In their day, Curtis and Leigh were one of Hollywood's up-and-coming couples, two successful, ambitious, famous people who appeared to have it all, with that 'all' including a happy marriage and two fine children. (As is often the case, appearances were deceiving: Curtis and Leigh divorced in 1962 after eleven years of marriage, and there were more difficult times ahead for both of them.) It's thus possible that the current rumor about Jamie Lee stems from an ancient backlash against her parents, long-ago envy expressed as a slander about what the union of two "perfect" people had produced. Just as the fox decries as sour the grapes that hang out of his reach, so might meanspirited folks fed up with hearing about the beautiful people spread a rumor that cuts these stars down to size.

Two facts lend an aura of credence to the rumor that Jamie Lee was born with both male and female bodyparts. The first is her two-way name: According to the rumor, a boyish appellation was bestowed upon her by parents who hadn't yet decided whether to have a boy or a girl "made" of their baby and wanted to be prepared to go either way, but that wasn't the case of it. Janet Leigh explained how she came to choose the name:


At that time, we didn't know ahead of time if it would be a girl or a boy, so when I was pregnant with Kelly, my best friend Jackie Gershwin said, "Why don't you call the baby Kelly, so if it's a girl, it works, and if it's a boy, it works?" And she thought the same thing with Jamie. The babies were named before they were born because Jackie said, "This way, we won't have to worry about it!"
If the names were truly chosen before the children arrived, that puts paid to the notion that 'Jamie Lee' was so christened in response to a medical condition that would only have been discovered after her delivery. (Jamie Lee Curtis was born long before the development of medical technology that could identify dual-gendered fetuses.)

The second fact that supports the rumor is Ms. Curtis' own children: They're adopted. Though couples opt for adoptive children over natural progeny for any number of reasons, it is true the operation necessary to correct dual gendering in a female infant would leave her unable to bear children.

Degrees of intersexuality vary in intensity from presence of an additional Y chromosome to being born with a mixed set of genitals. Treatment of cases of blatant intersexuality is generally (but not always) surgical in nature, with reconstruction performed on the infant patient to add or remove body parts so as to end up with a child completely male or female in physical appearance. Hormones are also given towards this end, but there is a limit to what can be corrected medically. Though an appearance of sexual normalcy can be constructed, fully functional reproductive organs cannot.

According to Dr. Anne Fausto-Sterling, a recognized expert in this field of study, 1-1/2 to 2 percent of all births do not fall strictly within the tight definition of all-male or all-female, even if the child looks "normal." In reaching her numbers, Dr. Fausto-Sterling is counting all incidents of intersexuality, from mild to extreme. The incidence of children with mixed genitalia is pegged at 1 in 2,000 to 1 in 3,000, or 0.033 to 0.05 percent of all births.

(Many technical names have been assigned to describe sexual ambiguity, including testicular feminization, transgendered, and androgen insensitivity syndrome. Rather than get bogged down here in descriptions of them, we direct readers to follow the link in the "Additional Information" section of this page for further discussion of the subject.)

Intersexuality is a reality; some children are ambiguously gendered at birth. However, one particular point needs to be made, and made quite vehemently: The existence of such medical conditions is not reason in itself to suppose that Jamie Lee Curtis has any of them. Using the one to bolster belief in the second is akin to claiming the existence of the Atlantic Ocean somehow proves a particular ship sank in it.

It is a telling commentary on the skewed importance we give any matter relating to sexuality that this rumor exists at all. Numerous children come into the world less than perfectly formed, yet no stigma is attached to those who require surgery to repair a malfunctioning heart, a disorder of the digestive system, or almost any other condition unrelated to gender. Yet when the question of sexuality is raised, it's all whispers behind hands and meaningful looks.

As only someone who has seen True Lies can say, if that's not all woman, then maybe we need to rethink what is. And while we're at it, let's see if we can't rethink what's a fit topic for gossip and what isn't.

Tom Campbell

You walked out of the store with merchandise that you didn't pay for and they didn't just give you. That's stealing. Pretty clear cut to me.

devilpants

I agree, your mother is shiny drama queen like Miss Calista Flockhart (who is not shiny).

muggins

I think I may have found something interesting. There is a Yahoo Group called triopsforever (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/triopsforever), which "is dedicated to Triop Lovers and Sea Monkey Lovers alike."

<3?


And, anyone knowing Triops would also know that they are divided into two "sexes." Male, and hermaphrodite.


Coincidence? You tell me.

LurkerDan

Aw, Dave, no need to be a hermit. We have an Island just for you!

Breakfast with Girls

I voted for You should cut your hair.

Sn0

Whooo Hoooo I thought it was all just titties over there, But if there is Beer tooo man I really need to visit there more often.

movielib

You are a thief. A very petty thief but a thief.

Seriously, don't do it again. It is not shining love.

sararekuforever

And it is worse now,she is going crazy

"I am ashamed to have ever had you, you are pathetic, a pig, an imbecile, my life has been wasted"

And started to go on about everything wrong I've ever done since I was born

Now I remember why I don't get along with lots of Christians, they dwell, and a lot. Jesus said to forget, forgive, and do it not once, not twice, but [number of times he said exactly] goes here...

Groucho

Maybe you should let your "Video Game Talk" personality talk to her. He seems like a rational fellow.

kvrdave

70 times 7, I believe is the number. Maybe you are just pushing it. <3 <3 <3

natesfortune

Yes, you're clearly a thief - I had to vote for that, even though I thought "burn in hell" was a bit harsh.

It's a social contract - somebody provides a good or a service to you. You are not OWED this at all(same thing with piracy). They offer it to you and set a price. If you don't want it, don't get it. If you want it, but find the price too high, don't get it. You don't have a right to set the terms. You have every right to think they're unfair for whatever reason, and not buy. But you don't have any right to get the product at YOUR terms. Be it free, less, just a "try out", whatever.

jaeufraser

Well, Mom is probably over reacting. But she's your mother...that's what they do.

On the other side, yes you did steal. But, what's really bad is you stole from BIG LOTS!!! I could buy that whole store with 50 bucks. Aim higher next time...perhaps some tutoring from Winona could help.

datagirl7

How much could they have cost? You should've just bought the pack. Then if you used one for a day and it broke, you could probably return the rest saying they are defective.