Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
08-26-09, 02:51 PM
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Of course I might be misreading it, and your interpretation actually is the correct reading, aka that he was not allowed to share with us what was wrong with the Oppo.
Still, to me, the tone of your initial response to him could have been a bit more affable..."you catch more flies with honey..." and all.
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08-26-09, 03:41 PM
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For newbies who found merit in his DVD reviews - and might not know this already - he now does Blu-ray reviews over at blu-ray.com.
Though, as some are no doubt aware, I was very friendly with Pro-B during his time here, everything I'm writing here is pure speculation...my own take on what I've read...I haven't had any sort of communication with Pro-B to say for sure which reading of his comments is the more accurate.
So I suppose we have no choice but to engage in a duel at daybreak...flixtime vs. Josh Z....ten paces....with dusty S.A.T. scores (Verbal section) as the weapons of choice!
08-26-09, 03:44 PM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
The Oppo is universal player, which can handle not only DVDs and Blu-rays, but SACD and DVD-A as well. I believe the recurring audio pop, referred to as "rice krispies" in the AVS Oppo thread, applies to SACDs only.
So if you only need it for Blu-ray playback, the Momitsu is a fine option (I have both). The main benefits to the Oppo over the Momitsu and other Blu-Ray players are:
1. SACD and DVD-A playback
2. Outstanding DVD upconversion, due to the ABT chip
3. Faster layer changes on DVDs
There's a (very long) thread over on AVS about the Oppo's performance compared to "other players" ...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1136139
So if you only need it for Blu-ray playback, the Momitsu is a fine option (I have both). The main benefits to the Oppo over the Momitsu and other Blu-Ray players are:
1. SACD and DVD-A playback
2. Outstanding DVD upconversion, due to the ABT chip
3. Faster layer changes on DVDs
There's a (very long) thread over on AVS about the Oppo's performance compared to "other players" ...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1136139
08-26-09, 04:28 PM
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08-26-09, 04:49 PM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
From my reading of this whole mess, in regard to Pro-B's "I can't post here" comment, I believe Pro-B meant he was - as Josh submitted - bound by some form of NDA (Non-disclosure Agreement). But as I comprehend it, this NDA was in relation to a forthcoming second generation Oppo player (not an expired NDA pertaining to the first Oppo player...as Josh put forth). I don't think Pro-B meant to infer that he couldn't post here but could post elsewhere...basically the "I can't post here" line meant he was not allowed to disclose anything publicly no matter where.
For newbies who found merit in his DVD reviews - and might not know this already - he now does Blu-ray reviews over at blu-ray.com.
Though, as some are no doubt aware, I was very friendly with Pro-B during his time here, everything I'm writing here is pure speculation...my own take on what I've read...I haven't had any sort of communication with Pro-B to say for sure which reading of his comments is the more accurate.
So I suppose we have no choice but to engage in a duel at daybreak...flixtime vs. Josh Z....ten paces....with dusty S.A.T. scores (Verbal section) as the weapons of choice!
For newbies who found merit in his DVD reviews - and might not know this already - he now does Blu-ray reviews over at blu-ray.com.
Though, as some are no doubt aware, I was very friendly with Pro-B during his time here, everything I'm writing here is pure speculation...my own take on what I've read...I haven't had any sort of communication with Pro-B to say for sure which reading of his comments is the more accurate.
So I suppose we have no choice but to engage in a duel at daybreak...flixtime vs. Josh Z....ten paces....with dusty S.A.T. scores (Verbal section) as the weapons of choice!
08-26-09, 04:55 PM
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08-26-09, 05:06 PM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
This is his words:
If SACD and customer service are of utmost importance to you, then go with the Oppo. If they are not, contrary to the popular opinion shared on a number of forums, you should go with the Momitsu. At this point, it is the better of the two players. A second generation Oppo player will probably change that.
(Don't ask for details why, I can't post here).
(Don't ask for details why, I can't post here).
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08-26-09, 05:23 PM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
Well, discussion of an NDA is obviously pure speculation. I was referring to flixtime's post about a possible NDA on a second-generation Oppo BD player.
But pro-b's post strongly suggests to me that his parenthetical remark referred specifically to his previous sentence about the second-generation Oppo. Without his input though, it's all guesswork.
But pro-b's post strongly suggests to me that his parenthetical remark referred specifically to his previous sentence about the second-generation Oppo. Without his input though, it's all guesswork.
08-26-09, 05:38 PM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
Well, discussion of an NDA is obviously pure speculation. I was referring to flixtime's post about a possible NDA on a second-generation Oppo BD player.
But pro-b's post strongly suggests to me that his parenthetical remark referred specifically to his previous sentence about the second-generation Oppo. Without his input though, it's all guesswork.
But pro-b's post strongly suggests to me that his parenthetical remark referred specifically to his previous sentence about the second-generation Oppo. Without his input though, it's all guesswork.
08-26-09, 05:44 PM
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08-26-09, 05:46 PM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
At this point, [the Momitsu] is the better of the two players. A second generation Oppo player will probably change that.
(Don't ask for details why, I can't post here).
(Don't ask for details why, I can't post here).
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08-26-09, 06:42 PM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
Well, he did say "a" second generation Oppo player (which implies "theoretically") as opposed to "the" second generation Oppo player (which implies "confirmed"). It might take a jury to determine whether that comprises a violation of an NDA that may or may not exist for a player that may or may not be under development. 
08-26-09, 08:31 PM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
Personally, I don't even care that much as I won't be buying any player that does not have networking features.
08-27-09, 09:04 AM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
Josh, to me, as opposed to the way you bolded his comments, I related his "Don't ask for details why, I can't post here." comment as being in reference to his comment "A second generation Oppo player will probably change that." comment, aka he was not allowed to share with us what he knew about the second generation Oppo.
Of course I might be misreading it, and your interpretation actually is the correct reading, aka that he was not allowed to share with us what was wrong with the Oppo.
Of course I might be misreading it, and your interpretation actually is the correct reading, aka that he was not allowed to share with us what was wrong with the Oppo.
Nevertheless, earlier in the post, he outright states that the Momitsu is a better player than the current Oppo, but does not say why. He suggests that there's something wrong with the Oppo that he hopes will be fixed in a second-generation player.
It hardly seems unreasonable that we should ask him what he meant, especially since many of us have been using the Oppo BDP-83 and found it to be an excellent piece of hardware.
08-27-09, 11:55 AM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
I recently called Oppo and was told that they were looking into network streaming via ethernet. While I was not provided with a timeline, I was told in no uncertain terms that it was being looked into.
It seems like it would technically be pretty easy to do since the machine can already download enhanced Blu-ray content to the hard drive and can play content from the hard drive. Streaming of MKV would be a huge feature for me.
It seems like it would technically be pretty easy to do since the machine can already download enhanced Blu-ray content to the hard drive and can play content from the hard drive. Streaming of MKV would be a huge feature for me.
08-29-09, 07:05 AM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
I went to the store today and saw a "clone Momitsu", and it said that there were a lot of format discs that it COUDLNT play, like BD-R's and such.
Can the Momitsu play pretty much any disc out there? And what about the clone models like the Sherwood or the VisionQuest?
Can the Momitsu play pretty much any disc out there? And what about the clone models like the Sherwood or the VisionQuest?
09-09-09, 07:55 AM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
Weird. I put a rental copy of Last Temptation of Christ into my Momitsu, and now the thing is stuck loading, and I can't eject the disc! Needless to say, I'm very, very bothered.
EDIT: I finally managed to get the disc out, after powering it off and pressing eject rapidly about 30 times. I tried History of Violence, and it works, so I'm going to assume the disc (which was in somewhat rough shape) was wholly to blame.
Man.
EDIT: I finally managed to get the disc out, after powering it off and pressing eject rapidly about 30 times. I tried History of Violence, and it works, so I'm going to assume the disc (which was in somewhat rough shape) was wholly to blame.
Man.
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09-25-09, 05:18 AM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
http://www.hkflix.com/hardware/xq/as...qx/details.htm
Momitsu's new BD player, the BDP-799
It's $100 less than the BDP-899, and apparently, less options, but I haven't really compared as of what.
Momitsu's new BD player, the BDP-799
It's $100 less than the BDP-899, and apparently, less options, but I haven't really compared as of what.
09-25-09, 06:23 AM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
It says on HKFlix's site that it does convert PAL to NTSC, but according to the manual for the 799, "Discs with PAL programs recorded on them cannot be played using this product." That could be problematic when importing European BDs that have any type of PAL content (menus, extras) on them. Perhaps HKFlix modified the conversion aspects which obviously wouldn't be noted on the OEM manual.
Also, the only outputs are composite video, analog audio (stereo only), digital coaxial audio, and of course HDMI.
Also, the only outputs are composite video, analog audio (stereo only), digital coaxial audio, and of course HDMI.
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09-25-09, 06:27 AM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
The 899's manual said the same thing. The 799 has proper NTSC-PAL conversion, so I don't imagine it will be a problem.
09-25-09, 07:07 AM
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Re: Region-Free BD Player: Momitsu BDP-899?
The outputs the 899 has that the 799 doesn't are:
# Optical Output: 1
# S-Video Output: 1
# Component Output: 1