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Lemdog 02-05-05 11:32 PM

Ashes of Time
 
I know that the Mei Ah and Zoke versions have horrible transfers, but I found a version I've never heard of on Yesasia.com. Can anyone tell me about the transfer of this DVD.

http://us.yesasia.com/assocred.asp?C...ection-videos/

cultshock 02-06-05 12:10 AM

Good question. The absence of English subs have kept me away and that's probably why there is a lack of English language reviews of this disc. But, ASHES OF TIME seems to be a film that always suffers from bad presentations, and it's really a shame because it's an amazing film. I just hope that this isn't due to problems finding decent source prints of the film and that a full restoration can happen someday. (it's sad that a film so recent can run into problems like this but Hong Kong isn't known for good film preservation, unfortunately).

manicsounds 02-07-05 03:28 AM

The Japanese DVD has no eng subs if that is important.
Dont know about the transfer....

Trigger 02-07-05 08:00 AM

couldn't find a comparison including this release... not even a screenshot anywhere. I'm sure you noticed, but not only does it lack english subs, but the audio track is Japanese dubbed too. If the transfer was good, someone with alot of free time could take the video and create a subtitle track file and burn it and make heaps off ebay. Mei Ah has been re-releasing some of their films lately with better transfers and such, so maybe this will be on their list.

marty888 02-07-05 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Trigger
Mei Ah has been re-releasing some of their films lately with better transfers and such, so maybe this will be on their list.

That's probably our best hope!

cultshock 02-07-05 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by Trigger
couldn't find a comparison including this release... not even a screenshot anywhere. I'm sure you noticed, but not only does it lack english subs, but the audio track is Japanese dubbed too. If the transfer was good, someone with alot of free time could take the video and create a subtitle track file and burn it and make heaps off ebay. Mei Ah has been re-releasing some of their films lately with better transfers and such, so maybe this will be on their list.


I noticed the mention of a Japanese audio track at yesasia, but I'm sure that's a mistake. CDJapan mentions a "Chinese" audio track (surely Cantonese), and Japanese releases very rarely (if ever) substitute a Japanese dubbed audio track for the original soundtrack (they may offer it as an option at times, but not instead of). It's funny, I was thinking that if the transfer was good, it would be worth it to try to add subs (I would like to try this with the French SE of FIST OF LEGEND :) ). Let's hope for a Mei Ah remaster. :up:

Grimfarrow 02-07-05 11:40 AM

As they say, patience is the best virtue, especially when it comes to Wong Kar-Wai.

Expect more than just a remaster with Ashes of Time.

cultshock 02-07-05 11:45 AM

Interesting...are you at liberty to tell us a bit more? :)

This is my favourite Wong film and one of my favourite films overall, so I'm just dying for a nice DVD of it.

Grimfarrow 02-07-05 12:45 PM

I won't go into details, but the mess over international rights of Ashes of Time was solved only recently. Let's just say that you are likelier to see the film in a theatre again in the near future.

Njål 02-13-05 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by cultshock
I noticed the mention of a Japanese audio track at yesasia, but I'm sure that's a mistake. CDJapan mentions a "Chinese" audio track (surely Cantonese), and Japanese releases very rarely (if ever) substitute a Japanese dubbed audio track for the original soundtrack (they may offer it as an option at times, but not instead of).

That would make it identical to the Japan-pressed Hong Kong laserdisc release, which had a Cantonese mono track, a Japanese stereo track, and Chinese and English subtitles (and the most beautiful foldout cover, with two different inner covers). Quite good PQ for a HK laserdisc, too.

Phyre 02-13-05 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Grimfarrow
I won't go into details, but the mess over international rights of Ashes of Time was solved only recently. Let's just say that you are likelier to see the film in a theatre again in the near future.

:jawdrop: :up: :up:

Linn1 02-13-05 02:47 PM

That's right....
 
Wong just oversaw a new transfer/cut of the film.

Chris Camfield 02-16-05 07:57 AM

Cooooool.

I've never seen the film, not bought the DVDs because of the reportedly terrible quality... so I'd be very interested in seeing it on a big screen. And hopefully then again on DVD. :)

Phyre 10-12-05 01:16 PM

Anyone heard anything new about the new print/transfer of Ashes of Time?

Cameron 10-12-05 03:00 PM

awesome news...i'll sell my disc off when it hits theaters....good movie, great director. Who will get the dvd rights i wonder.

Cameron 01-27-06 05:50 PM

need updates...

Lemdog 02-01-06 01:49 PM

Damnit Cam! I was planning to do a 1 year bump on this. Anyway ...

Any updates to the status of this?

Grimfarrow 02-01-06 01:53 PM

Nope.

Lemdog 02-01-06 01:55 PM

Oh well ... thanks anyway Grim

Grimfarrow 02-01-06 02:35 PM

Last time I saw Wong he was busy with other projects. Looks like he's put this on the backburner. But I'm not sure, since that was a few months ago...

wennma01 02-01-06 03:02 PM

so whats the best version out there of this film?

Lemdog 03-07-06 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by wennma01
so whats the best version out there of this film?

Theres is no good version

Plus the Region 1 version just went OOP.

Lemdog 11-02-06 05:42 PM

Finally!!!

http://www.twitchfilm.net/archives/008075.html#more

Trigger 11-07-06 12:39 PM

Redux? I wonder if anyone's going to bitch about this like they do about Lucas changing Star Wars or Spielberg changing E.T.?

Is this version worth a crap? http://www.fnac.com/Shelf/article.as...b80230008&Fr=0

nezumi 11-07-06 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Trigger
Redux? I wonder if anyone's going to bitch about this like they do about Lucas changing Star Wars or Spielberg changing E.T.?

The only reasons anybody would have to complain about a redux is if Wong digitally replaced Leslie Cheung with Hayden Christensen or replaced everybody's swords with walkie talkies. ;)

gryffinmaster 11-07-06 04:32 PM

Patience with this has been extremely difficult. I'm glad a nice transfer is coming sometime in the near future. :up:


Originally Posted by Trigger

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparison...php?fid=2944#4

From that, it looks like you're working with forced French subtitles and some forms of cut in the runtime.

Tutut 11-08-06 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by gryffinmaster
some forms of cut in the runtime.

Four minutes of the opening scene (the two swordsmen fight and the attack of the outlaws) are missing and I suppose the PAL speedup which reduce of 4% the duration.


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