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Der Undergang / Untergand -(Germany)- March 17

Old 01-27-05, 01:56 AM
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Der Undergang / Untergand -(Germany)- March 17




The German entry for this year's Oscars (Best Foreign film) will be released on March 17 in...Germany. The film explores the last days of Hitler (Bruno Ganz) and so far has generated some great reviews.
Winner of the Audience Award at the Bavarian Film Awards and a nomination for Best Actor for Bruno Ganz-European Film Awards.




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Old 01-27-05, 03:04 AM
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You can look forward to Alexandra Maria Lara.

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Will it have Eng. subs? Or danish?
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Originally Posted by Kant
Will it have Eng. subs? Or danish?
The current announcement only mentions German subs and German DD 5.1 and German DTS 5.1 audio tracks.
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Looks like Newmarket picked it up for the States...

http://www.apple.com/trailers/newmar...subtitled.html

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I think the theatrical release wasn't handled well in the USA. If it was released earlier i think it would have won the Foreign Language Oscar, instead of save bet The Sea Inside.

Just look at the reviews it is getting. If Bruno Ganz was an American he would already be the frontrunner for Best Actor, but he probably will be forgotten at the end of the year...

By the way, the movie surpassed Amelie with the most Box Office for a non English/Dutch spoken film here in Holland.

The dvd comes out on April 26th in Holland. It will be 3-disc with an extended cut of the film. Sorry, only Dutch subs.

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Originally Posted by Giorgio
I think the theatrical release wasn't handled well in the USA. If it was released earlier i think it would have won the Foreign Language Oscar, instead of save bet The Sea Inside.

Just look at the reviews it is getting. If Bruno Ganz was an American he would already be the frontrunner for Best Actor, but he probably will be forgotten at the end of the year...

By the way, the movie surpassed Amelie with the most Box Office for a non English/Dutch spoken film here in Holland.

The dvd comes out on April 26th in Holland. It will be 3-disc with an extended cut of the film. Sorry, only Dutch subs.

George
Supposedly, Newmarket did not have the rights to the film until December, and had to begin promotions on the film before they could release it. Besides, dont Oscar voters have to see all the films in a category before they are qualified to vote?
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Originally Posted by Giorgio
Just look at the reviews it is getting. If Bruno Ganz was an American he would already be the frontrunner for Best Actor, but he probably will be forgotten at the end of the year...

George
Absolutely agree. In fact I consider Bruno Ganz one of the most talented German actors of his generation (if not THE...).

On a side note this film will do poorly in the States. Just like Non Ti Muovere there is absolutely no buzz that surrounds this production whatsoever. So, your observation is correct!!

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I have the German dvd on its way to Chicago. Will report as soon as I get it.

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wow - I saw the movie yesterday afternoon and was very very impressed. The story tends to get a tad convoluted at the beginning with the stories multiple characters, but eventually sorts it all out. Ganz portrayel of Hitler is amazing. Technically, the action scenes are impressive with a great Dolby Digital 5.1 soundmix that rumbles with deep bass and effortlessly conveys the intensity of the surrounding war in Berlin.

Highly recommended
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Someone at the imdb posted that the German Premium Edition DVD, which was released today, actually does offer English subtitles. This was confirmed in another post also at the imdb.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/...hread/16753009

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Originally Posted by bjackson
Someone at the imdb posted that the German Premium Edition DVD, which was released today, actually does offer English subtitles. This was confirmed in another post.
I have no idea how the German theatrical prints looked but for the International English language prints the title screen is "Downfall" not "Der Untergang" and the end post scripts are in English (not on-screen German).

Question: the film's copyright date at the end of the credits is 2004, right? (I didn't stay to the finale).
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Originally Posted by bjackson
Someone at the imdb posted that the German Premium Edition DVD, which was released today, actually does offer English subtitles. This was confirmed in another post also at the imdb.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/...hread/16753009

Very interesting....and great news!! I ordered without hoping to get the English subs )as no site indicated them prior to the street date). Once I get my disc we'll see.

Thank you for the note Bjackson.

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Amazon.de now lists them as well!

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Pro-B where online do you buy your German imports, I really do not like ordering from Amazon.de since the delivery time is dreadfully slow.
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I did order this through Amazon.de...we'll see how long it takes to get here (so far 6 days).

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I'm really tempted but the 15.50 Euro shipping charge from Amazon.de is a bit off-putting.

Might "power of the people" work in this case.......I don't know their policies but what if a bunch of us e-mail CD-Wow requesting that they carry this title. Worth a shot?
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From what I've been able to find out, the 2-disc Premium Edition is confirmed to contain English subtitles. However, the single disc version DOES NOT include English subtitles.
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Originally Posted by bjackson
From what I've been able to find out, the 2-disc Premium Edition is confirmed to contain English subtitles.
Yep...from the Amazon.de site:

Infos zu diesem Titel
• Sprache: Deutsch (Dolby Digital 5.1)
• Untertitel: Englisch
• Dolby, DTS Surround Sound, Surround Sound
• Laufzeit: 189 Minuten
• DVD Erscheinungstermin: 17. März 2005
• Produktion: 2004
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Originally Posted by flixtime
I'm really tempted but the 15.50 Euro shipping charge from Amazon.de is a bit off-putting.

Might "power of the people" work in this case.......I don't know their policies but what if a bunch of us e-mail CD-Wow requesting that they carry this title. Worth a shot?

I am ready to help, no problem. My brother's family already offered to pay me for my copy so an extra one should be just fine (I am still waiting though).

Post the email that we need to use...and let's get it done!

Ciao,
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By the way can one of the mods PLEASE fix the title...I have no idea how i did this !!! THANK YOU!!

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Am tempted to pick up the German disk seeing as it has English subs, but want the extended version
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what's up with the running time, it this in fact about 30 minutes longer than the US theatrical version?
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Thank you pro-bassoonist for stepping up to the plate and offering your assistance.

I did send an e-mail to CD-Wow yesterday (after I posted in this discussion). I wrote to "[email protected]" and received an initial response that my request would be forward to their "DVD Dept." since they "are best placed to answer" my inquiry.

I then received a reply from an individual seemingly in that department stating the following:

Hi,

Thank you for your enquiry, we will add this title to our customer wishlist. If we receive further customer requests we may add this title in the near future.

Regards,



I just sent an e-mail to the person who replied with the above. I asked for permission to post his specific e-mail address here in this discussion thereby allowing for our requests to be a more targeted effort. As soon as I hear back I'll post here.

In the meantime, I don't see how it would hurt to direct an e-mail to the general "[email protected]".

The entirety of my initial e-mail need not be re-produced. A short one as shown below should suffice:

E-mail Subject: DVD Query - "Der Untergang" aka "The Downfall"

Dear Sir or Madam:

Will you be making available for sale the DVD for an acclaimed German film entitled "Der Untergang" aka "The Downfall"? It was released for sale in Germany on March 17th and is currently available through your competitor Amazon.de. The DVD is prominently featured on their site. Please note that there are two different versions available - a regular edition, and a 2-disc Premium Edition. I am requesting that you carry the 2-disc Premium Edition as it is the only one confirmed as of this writing to offer English subtitles.

Thank you for your time and cooperation.

Sincerely,


The above should suffice. Perhaps modify it slightly to give it a more personalized look (so it doesn't come off as everyone spamming the same e-mail to them).
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Can't wait for cdwow! Just re-ordered through amazon.de!

I usually get discs within 7-9 working days from germany in canada!
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Originally Posted by Louis-Olivier
Can't wait for cdwow! Just re-ordered through amazon.de!

I usually get discs within 7-9 working days from germany in canada!
How much was your shipping to Canada, is it the same 15euros? Thanks
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Flixtime...

I am sending an email as we speak....

Everyone else...if interested please assist with this issue.

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