Hendrik

...and I'm stubborn, too!...

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mdm67

Hi there!
my humble opinion is that the movie is well directed, the actors are convincing, alas the overall feeling you preserve after watchin' it is: disgust, repulsion.
Furthermore I doubt Tyler Durden's assessment about the moral value of the movie unless you believe that a crime justifies thirst of vengeance, if you believe that, well then it's a moral movie.
As for me the movie is amoral because if you survive two repellent and disgusting scenes then Noè - by reversing the causality of the events in the film - will lead you to believe to his a/moral message.

Tyler_Durden

I wouldn't make the mistake of thinking that we're supposed to root for the film's two male characters in these opening scenes. The reversed causality shows that they were inintially good and sensible men, but whose goodness was destroyed by time and, more specifically, their lack of consideration.

Besides,

The movie doesn't attempt to justify or condemn, which is the precise reason it consists of long takes with naturalistic lighting, and why the two brutal scenes are presented calmly and thoroughly without shying away from the "less pleasant" details. Like Pasolini's Salò, the film needs to be repulsive to stay true to its subject matter, that is, its point about the fragility of all that we cherish.

pro-bassoonist

So, much for the hope......

AMAZON lists only French audio track.......


Now here comes the big debate.....HOW MUCH is LionsGate going to screw up the dvd release in the States(cut-YES....but HOW MUCH??)

lostatmidnight

in my all-wordly cynicism....probably enough to get the French disc.

amazon.fr also has two listings for this, or is it just a mistake? a single disc and a 2 disc set....Might just be a listing error on Amazon's part.

pro-bassoonist

http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/tg/...140087-1970609

I only see a single disc edition posted.......what are you talking about?

Dazza

There are two different versions listed - lostatmidnight was referring to this listing for a 2-disc edn.

Dazza.

teorema

Luminous has the French DVD for $26.95 (American). It has no subtitles.

http://www.lfvw.com/comingsoon.htm

Hendrik

...alas for the French-impaired: it looks 99.9999% certain that there'll be no English subs for the January 22, 2003 French DVD release of that milestone of cutting-edge, envelope-pushing world cinema titled Irréversible ... nor for its simultaneously (re-)released companion piece Seul contre tous...

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eXcentris

Oui oui, c'est la vie.

pro-bassoonist

......I am still gonna get it.....'till LionsGate decides to give us the US release.......which may quite possibly be cut!!!!


.....should I comment on the c'est la vie part or what??!!(ha ha)

kenho

So there are 2 version of IRREVERSIBLE dvd.

But is the 2 disc version just the IRREVERSIBLE dvd bundled with the director debut Seul Contre Tous dvd ?

Or is the IRREVERSIBLE dvd itself has 2 disc ?

Hendrik

...as far as I'm concerned there are TWO French DVD releases:

1) Single-disc of "Irréversible"

2) Released on the same day: two-disc-pack including "Irréversible" and "Seul contre tous"

...in other words, there appears to be NO two-disc version of just the one movie "Irréversible"...

...watch this space for more exciting news about this Deathless Paragon of Cinematic High Art...!...

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Tyler_Durden

Hendrik, you just can't let it go, can you?

lostatmidnight

Hendrik

C'mon, you know you will be buying it, too...c'mon, right? You know you will...

Josh Z

Hendrick, you know, I can't recall a time when you've ever liked anything!

Hendrik

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pro-bassoonist

I say we all chip in and send Hendrik a copy of the movie.......let's educate him....(ha ha ha ha).!!!!!!

wirrus

The Dutch DVD was released without English subtitles, but QiX group did their own English translation of subtitles.

pro-bassoonist

what is this group you're talking about.....could you elaborate?

Tuco

Getting close to go-time on this DVD, where is everyone buying it from? I'd like to get the 2-DVD CE, Amazon.fr seems a little steep at 34,99 EUR.

pro-bassoonist

www.cinestore.com ......but they are not so cheap!!
check also dvdshopingcenter.com as well.....



any news on a version with english subs yet?????


(yeah, I know.......wishful thinking)!!!!

pro-bassoonist

Looks like it is coming to the USA however only NY/LA get to see it first.....here's the info:

IRREVERSIBLE US screening:

Release Date: March 7th, 2003 (LA/NY); expands to other cities at later dates

World Premiere: May 23rd, 2002 (Cannes Film Festival, in competition)

U.S. Premiere: January, 2003 (Sundance Film Festival, Frontier selection)

MPAA Rating: Unrated

MPAA Rating Note: (11/21/02) Lions Gate Films has expressed an interest in releasing this harrowing and violent film in its original, uncut French version, complete with the nine-minute rape sequence which shocked many festival audiences, and another scene where a man is bludgeoned with a fire extinguisher.

Language: French with English subtitles.

Running Time: 99 minutes

Distributor: Lions Gate Films

Production Company: 120 Films, Eskwad, Les Cinemas de la Zone, Nord-Ouest Production

Cast: Monica Bellucci (Alex), Vincent Cassel (Marcus), Albert Dupontel (Pierre), Philippe Nahon (Philippe), Jean-Louis Costes, Stephane Drouot (Stephane), Mourad Khima (Mourad), Gaspar Noe (cameo), Jo Prestia (The Tapeworm)

Director: Gaspar Noe (I Stand Alone)

Screenwriter: Gaspar Noe (I Stand Alone)

Grimfarrow

"Irreversible" is indeed disturbing, offensive, sickening, and exploitative. But it is at the same time thought-provoking, thoughtful, and original. That the film and the director really does not think much of humanity or our future is telling, but the pessimism does not hinder what I consider to be a truly interesting and daring film. I especially liked the ending, though I will not give too much away.

I just find the overly talkative scene in the Metro utterly uninvolving.

pro-bassoonist

All that I want to hear is the street date for the UNRATED LionsGate DVD. Just tell me when and where.....

Money is not an issue (.....as far as this release is concerned).

ps.
I do not want to argue with anyone but I could hardly imagine ANYONE expecting Harry Potter-esque production after all the buzz this film generated. Besides....just by mentioning the Noe name ......this should give you an idea what to expect.