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Old 06-08-02, 05:03 PM
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Where to get El Topo & Holy Mountain?

Jodorowski's El Topo and The Holy Mountain have been announced for release for early July. I'm assuming these are Italian DVDs (they're PAL and put out by a company called Raro, who don't seem to have a functioning website at the moment), but dvdland.it doesn't appear to carry either, even as pre-orders. Any one have a line on where to get them?
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Old 06-08-02, 05:43 PM
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up for preorder at xploitedcinema.com: http://www.xploitedcinema.com/dvds/dvds.asp?title=527
http://www.xploitedcinema.com/dvds/dvds.asp?title=506
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Even cheaper - http://www.lfvw.com/comingsoon.htm
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Old 06-09-02, 01:57 AM
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Don't expect decent quality.

(curses on Allen Klein...)
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Why so sure the quality won't be decent?
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they're supposedly just PAL transfers of the Japanese laserdiscs with the japanese subs blurred out and italian ones stuck on top.

what's the story with Allen Klein? why doesn't he want to release them?
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"...the story with Allen Klein..."

...read it - and weep...

http://www.angelfire.com/film/klein/

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Old 06-10-02, 06:32 AM
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so are these DVD bootlegs then, and to be shunned? And is Raro some sort of gray market outfit?
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Old 06-10-02, 11:27 AM
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so if indeed they are the ported versions of the Japanese laserdisc then any frontal "below the waist" nudity will be optically fogged then.
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Any chances of finding a NTSC version?

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Old 06-10-02, 06:06 PM
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uncensored UK PAL videotapes apparently existed recently according to this site http://www.hotweird.com/jodorowsky/. hoping the dvds are unfogged.
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Old 06-12-02, 07:43 PM
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According to Rarovideo's website, both El Topo and Holy Mountain are uncut. http://www.rarovideo.com/forum/topic...+con+Rarovideo
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Old 06-12-02, 07:59 PM
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From the webpage in the above post:

"Hi thanks for your message and our apologise for the delay in answering to you. the following is the information you requested:
The Holy MountainDVD
for the production of this DVD we have been using the japanese laserdisc master but we have edited the scene with optical censorship and in its place we have inserted the same scene (without the censorship)taken from a very good italian restore 35 mm print."



If that is true, why didn't they use the "very good italian restore 35 mm print" for the whole damn thing?

I wouldn't trust this company. These DVDs are probably nowhere near worth the money they are asking. Hopefully what they say about the El Topo disc is true, because the Spanish-language version is much better. It'll still probably look like crap.
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review

Please post the dvd review if anyone got the dvds.
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Here's the link of when this all started.

The Clip for EL TOPO on raro site is
in Spanish with Italian subs. Who knows what the DVD will be in?

Again the quality of their PAL tapes are very bad.

The UK English subtitled copy is much
better than this. Sadly thank's to Klein that too is out of print.

My guess these babies are going to sell like wild fire and then fade into the sunset once NYC and Abkco finds out.

I smell ebay Profits coming.
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I've read in the forum on Raro Video site that the holy mountain dvd has some missing scenes that are available in the UK VHS

So I'd say it is not really "UNCUT"

The post was made by someone called Mauro(Not me) and it is in Italian

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Old 06-13-02, 06:52 PM
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NEWS?

I made a post on other forum(Horror HQ) and this is what I got:

"From what I've read about the upcoming imports, there are no English audio tracks. English subs only. I've got the Japanese LaserDiscs, and will hold onto them for the simple fact that the English dubs were exceptional! Too bad they didn't include them on the DVD!

I emailed Iris Keitel (who works for Allen Klein), and their US DVD plans won't see fruition until AT THE EARLIEST - Fall 2003!"
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Re: NEWS?

Originally posted by Maur0
I made a post on other forum(Horror HQ) and this is what I got:

"From what I've read about the upcoming imports, there are no English audio tracks. English subs only. I've got the Japanese LaserDiscs, and will hold onto them for the simple fact that the English dubs were exceptional! Too bad they didn't include them on the DVD!

I emailed Iris Keitel (who works for Allen Klein), and their US DVD plans won't see fruition until AT THE EARLIEST - Fall 2003!"
Point 1: anyone who prefers the English version of El Topo is an idiot. If you have no choice, it's better than nothing, but it pales in comparison to the sound of the original Spanish dialogue tracks. The Allen Klein version also makes some totally unacceptable dialogue alterations and adds voiceover that has no business being there.

Point 2: Those who believe what Klein or his toadies say deserve to be disappointed.
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Seems the Raro release of El Topo is about the best we'll get. I'll pay $25-$30 for the uncut spanish language version, which I agree is much preferable than an english dub. From all I've read(thanks Jepthah) it sounds unlikely a Klein sanctioned release will ever happen. And even then, if I understand correctly, Klein's "official" version carries an english dub? I'm snapping up the Raro R2 PAL import, the video quality on the trailer didn't seem near unacceptable to me, considering the history of the film.
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Old 06-18-02, 03:45 AM
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Am I the only one who got this disc (Holy Mountain) in the mail on Saturday?
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so.... what's it like??
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I've read that it looks like a bad vhs copy + missing scenes

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Old 07-02-02, 12:36 AM
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updates?

SO, did anyone get THE HOLY MOUNTAIN DVD??? What's it like - quality of picture/sound; what's the running time (very important)? Is there optical blurring of the genitals (like on the Japanese laserdisc)?

Somebody let us know.....

Also, any word on what the quality of the EL TOPO release will be? Anybody out there with an advance copy?
Since these are Rarovideo's first DVD releases they could be anywhere from being exceptionally remastered (yeah right) to just being bootleg transfers of their VHS tape-copies to DVD-R.....

Anyone?
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Holy Mountain reviewed

Here's the review with screenshots. It was my first viewing of the film and I cannot comment on the edited shots. The quality of the print isn't great and a little fuzzy, but it's anamorphic.

http://www.pulsingcinema.com/
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