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anyone had any experience with Orbit DVD? good, bad, etc.? thx.
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Originally Posted by OldBoy
(Post 14124884)
anyone had any experience with Orbit DVD?
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thanks AT. snagged Cloak & Dagger finally and didn't have to spend eBay prices. could be here by weekend. can't wait.
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How much was Cloak & Dagger on the VS site?
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Originally Posted by OldBoy
(Post 14124884)
anyone had any experience with Orbit DVD? good, bad, etc.? thx.
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Yeah, thx. I saw it, took a shot and much less than eBay. Plus, be here by weekend as already shipped. Can’t wait to revisit and see those extras.
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Originally Posted by OldBoy
(Post 14125149)
How much was Cloak & Dagger on the VS site?
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Cool. I only paid $7 more at Orbit. Should be here Friday. :up:
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Just out of curiosity why did you pay $7 more? Why not just buy it direct from VS?
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Bc it was available now at a reasonable price. Didn’t think there was too big a difference. And, the VS shop doesn’t open up to non-partnership or whatever till July, so I wanted to get while I could.
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so happy about my C&D. very nice set! can't wait to revisit tonight.
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I think I’m sticking with 88’s release.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/dvdtalk...6e8e69270.jpeg Righting Wrongs Ships around street date of July 26th Details This special limited edition 3-disc Blu-ray Set comes with a hard slipcase + slipcover combo (designed by Tony Stella & Earl Kessler Jr.) includes a 40-page perfect bound book and is limited to 6,000 units. Only available here at VinegarSyndrome.com! Martial Arts legend Yuen Biao stars as Ha Ling-Ching, a respected prosecutor who has always followed the rule of law, but has recently found himself frustrated by the ineffectiveness of the court system. Ha is pushed over the edge by the murder of a key witness in a trial along with the witness's entire family. Fed up with the court's inability to punish the guilty and protect the innocent, Ha decides to take the law into his own hands and eliminate those responsible for the murders. Soon, Ha's actions catch the interest of C.I.D. Senior Inspector Cindy See (Cynthia Rothrock) and her slovenly new partner known as Stink Egg (Corey Yuen). While trying to stop Ha, Cindy uncovers who is really behind the recent murders and the two must put aside their differences in order to take down the criminal organization before they go unpunished. Heavily re-edited and released in different versions throughout the world, RIGHTING WRONGS - released in an English-friendly version under the title Above The Law - is one of the more infamous Hong Kong action films to be released in the 80s. Directed by prolific action director, Corey Yuen, RIGHTING WRONGS explodes with jaw-dropping fight choreography and features strong performances by Yuen Biao, Cynthia Rothrock, Corey Yuen, and Melvin Wong, along with scene-stealing fight cameos by Peter Cunningham and Karen Sheperd. Vinegar Syndrome is extremely proud to present RIGHTING WRONGS on Blu-ray, featuring three different cuts of the movie (including both the "darker" ending as well as the more "audience-friendly" ending) and loaded with a multitude of special features exclusive to this release, including the incredible THE BEST OF MARTIAL ARTS FILMS feature-length documentary from 1990 which includes several interviews and footage from the stars of RIGHTING WRONGS! directed by: Corey Yuen starring: Yuen Biao, Cynthia Rothrock, Melvin Wong, Karen Sheperd, Peter Cunningham, Corey Yuen 1986 / 96,100,92 min / 1.85:1 / Multi-Language Mono Additional info (* = exclusively produced for this release): 3-disc Region A Blu-ray Set Three different unaltered original feature-length presentations of the film, including: the original Hong Kong cut (96min) with Cantonese, English & Mandarin language tracks along with newly translated Cantonese-to-English subtitles; the extended and vastly different Mandarin language export cut (100min) with newly translated Mandarin-to-English subtitles; and the English friendly ABOVE THE LAW cut (92min). "THE BEST OF MARTIAL ARTS FILMS (1990)" (91min) - feature-length documentary hosted by John Saxon and including footage and interviews with Cynthia Rothrock, Yuen Biao, Karen Sheperd, Jackie Chan, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bruce Lee and many more! Brand new commentary track with actress Cynthia Rothrock * Archival commentary track with Cynthia Rothrock Critical commentary track with martial arts film historians Mike Leeder and Arne Venema * "Fighting Wrongs" (25min) - a brand new interview with Cynthia Rothrock * "Unscripted Justice" (35min) - a brand new interview with actress Karen Sheperd * "Kung Fu Was The Equalizer" (20min) - a brand new interview with actor Melvin Wong * "Fighting For Success" (20min) - a brand new interview with actor Peter Cunningham * "The Vigilante" (17min) - an archival interview with star Yuen Biao "Action Overload" (13min) - an archival interview with Cynthia Rothrock "From the Ring to the Silver Screen" (19min) - an archival interview with Peter Cunningham Video essay with film historians Samm Deighan and Charles Perks * Cantonese and English theatrical trailers for RIGHTING WRONGS Theatrical trailer for THE BEST OF MARTIAL ARTS FILMS 40-page perfect bound book with essays by film programmer Pearl Chan, author and martial arts historian Grady Hendrix and filmmaker/fan Simon Barrett * Photo gallery Reversible cover artwork Newly translated English subtitles |
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Prices went up again. Regular VS titles have an MSRP of $42.98. VSAs and double features are more expensive now too.
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
(Post 14126586)
Prices went up again. Regular VS titles have an MSRP of $42.98. VSAs and double features are more expensive now too.
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Originally Posted by Spiderbite
(Post 14126655)
So...taking down the site and having just various independent releases up was all smoke and mirrors
Still, while I haven't been keeping track, this is, what, the third price increase in the past 12 months? Probably an exaggeration, but it sure doesn't feel like it. |
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Sucks about the price increase. They're already one of the more expensive boutique labels out there, and even the half-price sales have me spending a lot of cash on not a lot of discs.
I do like the specs on the Righting Wrongs disc though, especially the inclusion of The Deadliest Art documentary. Another LD I can retire. Finally got my Halfway package yesterday, can't wait to dig in. Sadly, with the season finale of Last Drive In tonight, and a big punk rock show tomorrow, I won't really be able to watch more than one or two this weekend. |
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You start to wonder when the price increases go from necessary due to increased costs or just wanting to bleed a few more dollars for each title from the customers. That along with the taxes that some are now having to pay for their stuff might just be too much for a lot of customers and ultimately hurt VS for now.
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Domino effect of the economy in general. The boss is paying more to put gas in his Lexus, the electric bills are higher, lunch costs more. You think he's just gonna eat those costs?
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Jack Be Nimble has only been up for five and a half hours, and it’s already more than halfway sold through. Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s sold out before the long weekend’s over (and maybe even tonight!).
Hopefully Sampo makes it into August so I can order it alongside next month’s VS titles. |
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I guess I only paid $2 bux more using Orbit for C&D. That’s cool. And such fast turnaround. Wonderful transfer and love the extras. Especially fan girl’s show on Atari and C&D.
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Funny how Cloak & Dagger sold for ridiculous prices on EBay. Tad bit of patience and they didn’t have to, and VS now has their regular stuff back including this movie which still have over 1000 copies available.
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Jack Be Nimble slipcover is already sold out and the standard version is heading that way. However, after initially considering a blind purchase, I remembered to not fall into the trap of a quick sale. I looked at the screencaps and couldn't help but think that the male character is some weird amalgamation of Ben Stiller's Zoolander character and Jerry Seinfeld.
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Originally Posted by E Unit
(Post 14126967)
Funny how Cloak & Dagger sold for ridiculous prices on EBay. Tad bit of patience and they didn’t have to, and VS now has their regular stuff back including this movie which still have over 1000 copies available.
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Originally Posted by dex14
(Post 14126573)
I think I’m sticking with 88’s release.
Originally Posted by Paff
(Post 14126711)
I do like the specs on the Righting Wrongs disc though, especially the inclusion of The Deadliest Art documentary. Another LD I can retire.
I likewise owned the LD of BEST OF THE MARTIAL ARTS FILMS. Fantastic overview for its time, especially for 'introducing' top HK action stars other than Bruce and Jackie, who was in it a bit too much, frankly (along with the China O'Brien clippage). Transferred it to a DVD-R in early era of DVD in order to unload it, but have always hoped it would resurface some day.
Originally Posted by dsa_shea
(Post 14126745)
You start to wonder when the price increases go from necessary due to increased costs or just wanting to bleed a few more dollars for each title from the customers.
Thus I feel like there's at least some truth to the 'bleeding a few more dollars' line of thought. We've never really needed spot-laminated hard-shell boxes, soft-touch slipcovers with newly-commissioned artwork, lobby card repros, single- and double-sided mini-posters, stickers and perfect bound books (the contents of which could just as easily be organized into text essays and still galleries on the discs). The boutiques have fostered a culture FOMO addicts, and surely part of their m.o. really has become about bleeding a few more dollars from loyal customers, especially newer and/or younger customers who can be easily convinced of the "importance" of just about any film based on how much "cool" packaging surrounds it. And now with the drastic increase in printing costs of this largely unnecessary bumpf, they're forced to pass the cost on to us. Sure, we can wait for the standard editions down the road (assuming they release them) – and those are often good enough considering the disc-bound supplements they dig up or create from scratch. But you just know if you want a truly complete package, you pretty much have to pony up early and dig deep. - - - EDIT: just saw the trailer for 88 Films RIGHTING WRONGS in that thread and it does seem like there will be differences. They mention 'rare alternative media' but don't specify what that is, so I guess we have to wait and see whether VS has the same stuff. 88's 'new' cuts and ending "randomizer" sound pretty silly, but I suppose they might give viewers an idea of just how compromised many HK films were for other markets. |
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Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14127979)
routinely trying to convince us that every margin-dwelling B-movie is somehow an undiscovered and important cultural artifact .
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I have a confession. I've had the Drafthouse bluray Miami Connection in my collection for years and I never watched it the whole way through until this past weekend. Now I can't stop watching it and just bought the VS release last night. This movie is on the same level of greatness as Road House and Stone Cold.
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I finally got my shipping notice for Righting Wrongs and Miami Connection!! I hope I'll get my order by early next week.
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Saturday I did a triple feature with some friends of mine. Miami Connection, New York Ninja and No Retreat No Surrender.
MC was great as always. It was their first time watching. NYN was a bit of a letdown, but still enjoyable. I can’t wait to watch the bonus stuff. NRNS was pretty bad. Like barely good bad. We laughed a few times, but it won’t be rewatched anytime soon. |
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Originally Posted by Toddarino
(Post 14138658)
NYN was a bit of a letdown, but still enjoyable. I can’t wait to watch the bonus stuff.
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I could never do a triple feature like that. I'm okay with the occasional bit of cheese here and there, been to some midnight screenings of The Room, but 4-5 hours of that would just kill me. I'd need a good movie dropped in at some point.
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Well I got my copy of Miami Connection and Righting Wrongs. The Improved picture on Miami Connection is great but I didn't like they left off the Manson International Logo at the beginning. The alternate cut features all the deleted scenes from the Drafthouse bluray but the downer of an ending just doesn't work for the tone of the movie and you can see why it was replaced. I haven't gotten very far watching the Righting Wrongs set but started to watch the Best of Martial Arts documentary and can see why its praised here because its very good. The August releases from Vinegar Syndrome are announced tomorrow at Noon Eastern Time.
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The new Forgotten Gialli set looks fantastic. I'll get an order in if it looks like it'll run out before the September titles go up. Faults is a possibility. There's a time when I would've been more excited about The Incredible Melting Man getting the UHD treatment, but...eh. Maybe during the next sale, but probably not.
I missed that there'll be a Paul Naschy film in UHD in October! That's pretty exciting, especially since it'll apparently be one of at least four UHD releases from VS that month (Texas Chainsaw Massacre II being another). |
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Originally Posted by Adam Tyner
(Post 14141552)
There's a time when I would've been more excited about The Incredible Melting Man getting the UHD treatment, but...eh. Maybe during the next sale, but probably not.
The FORGOTTEN GIALLI set does look interesting, but then I said that about the first two (three?) when I picked them up (all in sales, thankfully) and so far those haven't exactly been loaded with keepers. Still interesting to see them, albeit not at full price, and considering the Italians cranked out these things with abandon back then, we're sure to get many more boxes to come, whether or not the films are worthy. Kinda glad these three don't have commentaries, but instead opt for interviews and audio essays. I find the latter are often good enough at encompassing all the points one could glean from a full commentary by the same people. Had to snicker at the copy calling BIRDS II "notorious" and a "jaw dropping animal attack spectacle". Not how I recall it. Who writes this stuff? The "Don't Remake Hitchcock Movies" featurette sounds intriguing, though! |
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Originally Posted by Brian T
(Post 14141654)
The FORGOTTEN GIALLI set does look interesting, but then I said that about the first two (three?) when I picked them up (all in sales, thankfully) and so far those haven't exactly been loaded with keepers.
I'm not familiar with any of the movies in vol. 5, but the giallo crowd seems to be pretty excited about these choices -- more than any other volume to date -- so I'm hopeful. |
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I'm sure you'll be able to wait for Forgotten Gialli 5 to go to the half price sale (where it will still be damn expensive). Vols 3 and 4 are still at over 1000 on the limited edition box, and it's been over a year since release. Well, Volume 3 at least, but you know what I mean.
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I haven't really looked at this before, but vol. 5 is listed as being a limited edition of 6,000 copies, but the inventory (if you look at the HTML source code) says there are 6,335 copies remaining, and that's beyond any orders that've already been made, copies set aside for subscribers, etc.
Waiting for a sale probably makes sense, especially since this one isn't moving all that quickly so far. Will I do something that makes sense, though? Jury's out. |
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...though the wording makes it sound like these might be movies that are on the verge of being remastered and reissued, so better versions might be on the way soon.
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There’s two new partner releases I wanna grab. I’ve had a number of whiskies. I better go to bed before I add Cloak & Dagger for free shipping.
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Yeah, throw Cloak & Dagger into that cart, then go to bed.
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