Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > DVD Discussions > HD Talk
Reload this Page >

The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

HD Talk The place to discuss Blu-ray, 4K and all other forms and formats of HD and HDTV.

The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Old 02-24-23, 03:14 PM
  #2051  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Sunny Hawaii
Posts: 7,690
Received 328 Likes on 217 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Old 02-24-23, 04:18 PM
  #2052  
DVD Talk Hero
 
PhantomStranger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The Phantom Zone
Posts: 26,429
Received 620 Likes on 533 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Finally! Always felt kind of petty by Arrow Video to skip booklets on second pressings.
Old 03-10-23, 01:30 PM
  #2053  
Moderator
 
dex14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 42,617
Likes: 0
Received 3,757 Likes on 2,550 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Oh boy….

The following users liked this post:
Adam Tyner (03-10-23)
Old 03-10-23, 01:37 PM
  #2054  
DVD Talk God
 
DJariya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: La Palma, CA
Posts: 74,509
Received 2,664 Likes on 1,968 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Fuck! That damn Bruce Lee 4K set.

and I said before here I was done with Bruce Lee on physical media.
Old 03-10-23, 02:59 PM
  #2055  
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 4,793
Received 333 Likes on 255 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Originally Posted by DJariya View Post
and I said before here I was done with Bruce Lee on physical media.
I still am.

And they know people will just keep buying these upgrades because the non-stop releases help to keep Bruce relevant and profitable. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before we see the rest of the Jackie Chan library (beyond POLICE STORY 1-3) recycled upgraded to 4K for another squeeze. By then an 8K Bruce box should be imminent.

And I'm sure these will look amazing, but come on, so do various Blu-rays for these 50-year-old films. I'm sure they'll find some new, never-before-seen private snippet of Bruce, or Linda and Sharon will sit down for their 278th revisionist interviews on the subject, or we'll get some new supplements from 'experts' rarely associated with Hong Kong cinema in the past, to justify the premium.

Last edited by Brian T; 03-10-23 at 10:07 PM.
Old 03-10-23, 03:10 PM
  #2056  
DVD Talk God
 
DJariya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: La Palma, CA
Posts: 74,509
Received 2,664 Likes on 1,968 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

What hasn't been released in the states is documentary maker John Little's recreation of the actual storyline for Game of Death that was supposed to be an extra in the A Warrior's Journey DVD from 20 years ago.

Also, A Warrior's Journey is out of print as a single release. I'd love to see that included here, but I'm sure there are rights issues involved for both.
Old 03-10-23, 05:15 PM
  #2057  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
rocket1312's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,441
Likes: 0
Received 740 Likes on 522 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

I could possibly maybe be persuaded to buy these again if the color correction on the Ritrovata masters (or will these be new masters?) and the audio tracks are improved over the Criterion, but the truth is, Lee's charisma aside, these movies just aren't that good. Fist of Fury is really the only one that totally works for me. Enter the Dragon is fun, but I presume it will not be included.

That said, if they include a proper HD or 4k presentation of one or both versions of Game of Death II, then there'll be something to get excited about!
The following users liked this post:
Brian T (03-10-23)
Old 03-11-23, 12:31 AM
  #2058  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Josh-da-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2023
Location: The Bible Belt
Posts: 41,253
Received 1,931 Likes on 1,379 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Meh. I was hoping it was Dawn of the Dead.
The following users liked this post:
Brian T (03-11-23)
Old 03-11-23, 09:48 AM
  #2059  
DVD Talk Legend
 
milo bloom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 17,524
Received 1,176 Likes on 878 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
Meh. I was hoping it was Dawn of the Dead.

Same.

I still havenít completed the Criterion Bruce Lee set.
Old 03-11-23, 11:22 AM
  #2060  
DVD Talk Reviewer/ Admin
 
Adam Tyner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Greenville, South Cackalack
Posts: 27,524
Received 1,514 Likes on 993 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man View Post
Meh. I was hoping it was Dawn of the Dead.
Order Second Sight's lavish set. 3 cuts in UHD, each on their own disc. The only downside is that the dedicated disc of extras is region B, but there are no restrictions for the movies themselves. The standard edition is $43.99 at Diabolik DVD and $42.99 at Orbit DVD.

I'm skeptical that Arrow would sink the money into as expensive a title at this and not be able to release it in their home market, since Second Sight has it spoken for there. Arrow's US-only release slate has kinda dried up.

For everything announced or released year-to-date, there have been just four US-only (or US/Canada-only) titles; less than one a month on average:
  • January - Lady Whirlwind / Hapkido double feature
  • March - Black Sunday; Knockabout
  • April - The Assassination Bureau
Not a single one in February or May.

I can't imagine much of anyone exceeding what Second Sight has assembled either; at most, it'll be more of the same, maybe losing some extras and adding some others.
The following 2 users liked this post by Adam Tyner:
Brian T (03-11-23), TomOpus (03-11-23)
Old 03-31-23, 10:08 AM
  #2061  
Moderator
 
dex14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 42,617
Likes: 0
Received 3,757 Likes on 2,550 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Old 03-31-23, 08:36 PM
  #2062  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Sunny Hawaii
Posts: 7,690
Received 328 Likes on 217 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

That Magic Eye slipcover for Mallrats is an Arrow Store exclusive. Fortunately, they've got the image flipped the correct way this time. When it was printed on the booklet cover for the previous Blu-ray edition, it was backwards (flipped horizontally, with Silent Bob on the left; the Magic Eye image is the Mallrats logo but it was backwards), and they didn't know because the booklet designer can't do Magic Eye images.
Old 04-14-23, 10:20 AM
  #2063  
Moderator
 
dex14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 42,617
Likes: 0
Received 3,757 Likes on 2,550 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Old 04-14-23, 10:25 AM
  #2064  
Moderator
 
story's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Hope.
Posts: 12,957
Received 1,422 Likes on 856 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Anybody have a lead on where to get a region 1 copy of The Stuff for under $20 or even under $25? Looks like the secondary market is $40+ right now.l, as far as I can find.
Old 04-14-23, 10:30 AM
  #2065  
DVD Talk Reviewer/ Admin
 
Adam Tyner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Greenville, South Cackalack
Posts: 27,524
Received 1,514 Likes on 993 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Oldies.com has the American release -- at least, they're using the American cover art -- listed for $23.40 (+ shipping): https://www.oldies.com/product-view/16339P.html?c=gbase
Old 04-14-23, 10:43 AM
  #2066  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
rocket1312's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,441
Likes: 0
Received 740 Likes on 522 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Darn it. Didn't think I would need a new Bruce Lee box, but Arrow went all out on this one. New, non-Ritrovada scans and multiple cuts off each film including proper hd versions of both cuts off Game of Death II, (aka the best movie in this set)? Plus a whole lot more. Yes please.

The only bummer is that they felt like they had to include Enter the Dragon, but could only include the old 40th Anniversary blu-ray. What a waste. And it means that the Criterion set is still required for the proper hd theatrical version.
Old 04-14-23, 10:45 AM
  #2067  
DVD Talk Legend
 
milo bloom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 17,524
Received 1,176 Likes on 878 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Looks like a lot of overlap with the Criterion Bruce Lee set if I'm reading that right?
Old 04-14-23, 10:53 AM
  #2068  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Why So Blu?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 36,885
Received 934 Likes on 720 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Also, don't expect Enter the Dragon to be included since WB is putting that one out on 4K disc themselves. The box mock-up still shows enter the dragon on the spine of the box.
Old 04-14-23, 10:58 AM
  #2069  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
rocket1312's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,441
Likes: 0
Received 740 Likes on 522 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Originally Posted by milo bloom View Post
Looks like a lot of overlap with the Criterion Bruce Lee set if I'm reading that right?
Arrow has not released a full list of extras yet, but there doesn't appear to be much overlap at all with the Criterion. I assume all of the extras produced by Criterion will stay exclusive to that set and Arrow will have tons of newly produced extras in their set.

IMO the Arrow set smashes the Criterion to itty bitty pieces. The only thing the Criterion has over the Arrow is a superior presentation of Enter the Dragon.
Old 04-14-23, 10:59 AM
  #2070  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
rocket1312's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,441
Likes: 0
Received 740 Likes on 522 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Originally Posted by Why So Blu? View Post
Also, don't expect Enter the Dragon to be included since WB is putting that one out on 4K disc themselves. The box mock-up still shows enter the dragon on the spine of the box.
Enter the Dragon is included, but it's only the same WB 40th anniversary blu-ray that's been available for a decade.
The following users liked this post:
Why So Blu? (04-14-23)
Old 04-14-23, 04:01 PM
  #2071  
DVD Talk God
 
DJariya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: La Palma, CA
Posts: 74,509
Received 2,664 Likes on 1,968 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

For those who didn't click the link, here is the partial list of content from the site: Just when I thought I was done, Arrow brings me back with new material. Am I missing something? Where does it say that Enter the Dragon is only a BD?

  • Brand new 4K restorations of The Big Boss, Fist of Fury, The Way of the Dragon and Game of Death and brand new 2K restoration of Game of Death II
  • 4K (2160p) UHD Blu-ray presentations in Dolby Vision (HDR10 compatible) of The Big Boss, The Big Boss: The Mandarin Cut, Fist of Fury, The Way of the Dragon and Game of Death
  • High Definition (1080p) Blu-ray presentations of the Hong Kong cut of Game of Death, Game of Death II, Bruce Lee: The Man & The Legend and Bruce Lee: The Legend
  • Newly restored original Mandarin, English and Cantonese mono audio
  • Newly translated optional English subtitles, plus subtitles for the deaf and hard-of-hearing on the English dubs
  • Multiple alternate cuts on most films, including the extended Mandarin Cut on The Big Boss, English export cuts of The Big Boss and Fist of Fury, the Japanese cut of The Way of the Dragon and Hong Kong cuts of Game of Death and Game of Death II (aka Tower of Death)
  • Brand new feature commentaries by David Desser, Jonathan Clements, Frank Djeng & Michael Worth, Brandon Bentley and Mike Leeder
  • Return to Thailand, a new documentary by Matt Routledge on the original locations for The Big Boss
  • Newly uncovered deleted scenes from The Big Boss, plus a video essay by Bentley about scenes still missing such as the 'saw-in-the-head' kill
  • Legend of the Dragon, a brand new 80-minute overview of Lee's career by film critic and historian Tony Rayns
  • Two new documentaries on Lee's fighting and working methods, featuring interviews with Golden Harvest producer Andre Morgan, martial arts experts Michael Worth, John Kreng, Andy Cheng, Frank Djeng and David Yeung, film historian Courtney Joyner and others
  • Brand new interviews with actors Malisa Longo and Colleen Camp, plus hours of archive interviews with Lee's former co-stars, colleagues and friends, including Nora Miao, Dan Inosanto, Bob Wall, Yuen Wah and many others
  • The Final Game of Death, a brand new feature-length video essay by Arrow Films on Lee's original vision for The Game of Death, featuring a new 2K restoration of the footage directed by Lee in 1972
  • 40th Anniversary Special Edition Blu-ray of Enter the Dragon, with archive extras including The Curse of the Dragon, In His Own Words, Backyard Workout and more
  • Archive featurettes including The Hong Kong Connection, Bruce Lee Remembered, Legacy of the Dragon, Dragon Rising and The Grandmaster & The Dragon
  • Comprehensive trailer and image galleries for each film
  • Limited edition packaging featuring newly commissioned artwork by Tony Stella
  • 200-page hardbound book featuring new writing by Walter Chaw, Henry Blyth, Andrew Staton, Dylan Cheung, David West and James Flower
  • Twenty-four lobby card reproductions
  • Ten glossy photos of Lee in action
  • Reversible poster with vintage poster artwork
  • and much, much more!!!
*** FULL ARTWORK & EXTRAS REVEAL ON 28TH APRIL ***
Old 04-14-23, 04:11 PM
  #2072  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
rocket1312's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 5,441
Likes: 0
Received 740 Likes on 522 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

  • 40th Anniversary Special Edition Blu-ray of Enter the Dragon, with archive extras including The Curse of the Dragon, In His Own Words, Backyard Workout and more
The following users liked this post:
DJariya (04-14-23)
Old 04-14-23, 04:22 PM
  #2073  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
clckworang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: The toe nail of Texas
Posts: 9,362
Received 608 Likes on 418 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Originally Posted by DJariya View Post
For those who didn't click the link, here is the partial list of content from the site: Just when I thought I was done, Arrow brings me back with new material. Am I missing something? Where does it say that Enter the Dragon is only a BD?
You're also missing that they list every film that will be getting a UHD, and Enter the Dragon isn't listed.
Old 04-14-23, 04:22 PM
  #2074  
DVD Talk God
 
DJariya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: La Palma, CA
Posts: 74,509
Received 2,664 Likes on 1,968 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

Thanks I overlooked that line. I guess as Why So Blu said, WB has the rights to the 4K version since they are releasing it as part of their 100 year collection.

That's what I get for skimming lines.
Old 04-14-23, 04:33 PM
  #2075  
DVD Talk God
 
DJariya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: La Palma, CA
Posts: 74,509
Received 2,664 Likes on 1,968 Posts
Re: The Official Arrow Films 4K/Blu-ray Discussion and Release Thread

The Arrow UK site shows what appears to be the same set but with different artwork. I actually like this one better. Is Arrow U.S. getting this or is this UK only?



Currently it's about $148 USD converted if you pre-order this set now. Anyone feel like coughing up that much right away?

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.