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Old 03-17-20, 02:02 PM
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

I’ve never even pondered whether or not to get a movie based on chapter stops. Huh. Not a bad thing, and I can see how that would impede on someone buying it or not. But I also have those two on laser, and remember that being annoying.
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

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Iíve never even pondered whether or not to get a movie based on chapter stops. Huh. Not a bad thing, and I can see how that would impede on someone buying it or not. But I also have those two on laser, and remember that being annoying.
Because Laserdisc was a much more linear experience than DVD or Blu-ray, without any user menus to access content through, the authoring of the disc was a huge problem in this case. The lack of chapter stops was a very stupid oversight by Paramount. At the very least, they should have put the director interviews after the movie, rather than before.

David Lynch still hates chapter stops, and the Criterion Blu-rays of his movies (Eraserhead, Mulholland Drive, etc.) have none. It's very irritating if you ever want to look at a specific scene without watching the entire movie. Of course, that's exactly what he wants to prevent you from doing, because he can be an ass about certain things like that.



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Old 03-17-20, 09:30 PM
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

Will they finally release the theatrical cut of The Warriors? That release hasn’t seen the light of day since they decided to re-release the film on DVD with only the director’s cut
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Will they finally release the theatrical cut of The Warriors? That release hasnít seen the light of day since they decided to re-release the film on DVD with only the directorís cut
Agreed. I so regret selling off my original DVD when the "Special Edition" was announced...I really hate those comic book sequences and prologue and felt they were completely unnecessary and really ruin the momentum and transition between scenes. The original version was near perfect...

On a side note, I remember babysitting way back when and I rented that Warriors PlayStation game, which was friggin awesome...Hell, I wouldn't mind if they updated it with better graphics and sound and just re-released it on the current gen's console systems...It was really immersive and was a great use of the franchise...
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Because Laserdisc was a much more linear experience than DVD or Blu-ray, without any user menus to access content through, the authoring of the disc was a huge problem in this case. The lack of chapter stops was a very stupid oversight by Paramount. At the very least, they should have put the director interviews after the movie, rather than before.

David Lynch still hates chapter stops, and the Criterion Blu-rays of his movies (Eraserhead, Mulholland Drive, etc.) have none. It's very irritating if you ever want to look at a specific scene without watching the entire movie. Of course, that's exactly what he wants to prevent you from doing, because he can be an ass about certain things like that.
Can't remember for sure, but I think, for Roman Polanski's Criterion of Knife in the Water, they took out chapter stops at least for the short films on the second disc. Not super-annoying, as I had never seen them before and really only intended on seeing them once, anyway, but it was still a bit frustrating when I'd be writing a paper on Polanski in a film class option or reading a book on Polanski and wanting to immediately check out one of his short films and have to fast-forward through them until I found the right one...I think the main film had chapter stops but I can't quite remember...

And I agree that I don't really like the "Lynch approach"...There's a fast-forward button, dude, so until you someone manage to disable that, people are going to be able to skip ahead to certain scenes, only get a little frustrated doing so, so ultimately your attempts at only wanting viewers to view your movies in essentially one sitting is null and void...so why fight it? (Still love his movies though, even though I still haven't quite seen what others have in Eraserhead...it's okay, but not close to Lynch's top movies...)
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Old 03-18-20, 02:27 AM
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

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Can't remember for sure, but I think, for Roman Polanski's Criterion of Knife in the Water, they took out chapter stops at least for the short films on the second disc.
Not only that, but they disabled EVERY button other than Stop during the actual movie- no pause, scan, nothing. I checked it out from the library just to laugh at that. I watch my movies with as little of that as possible anyways, but funny to see the director make sure it played straight through and nothing but that!
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Old 03-18-20, 08:05 AM
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

The removal of the pause button kind of works against their intention.
They want the viewer not to watch the movie in parts - they want you to only experience the movie from beginning to end. But if someone has to go to the bathroom while watching and they can't pause the movie - they'll just go and wind up missing 5+ minutes of the movie... which goes against the idea of watching the movie in its entirety. It's worse if someone has to take multiple bathroom breaks, or need to answer the door, the phone or grab a drink, etc. The movie experience is being butchered thanks to this ridiculous restriction.
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Old 03-18-20, 11:06 AM
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

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And I agree that I don't really like the "Lynch approach"...There's a fast-forward button, dude, so until you someone manage to disable that, people are going to be able to skip ahead to certain scenes, only get a little frustrated doing so, so ultimately your attempts at only wanting viewers to view your movies in essentially one sitting is null and void...so why fight it?
The UK Blu-ray release of Mulholland Drive is especially perverse about this. That disc only has a random access chapter menu. There's a bunch of ambiguous images on the menu page, and whichever one you pick, there's no telling where in the movie it will send you. The results are different every time you go back to the menu. Skipping forward and backward while watching the movie has also been completely disabled even though the disc is encoded with chapter stops.
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Old 03-18-20, 02:21 PM
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

The no chapter stop option makes no sense. If a film-maker feels the need to do this, a good compromise would be to have chapter stops every five minutes and yet not provide a menu to allow the user to select a particular chapter. The user would have to press the "skip" button until they find the section of the movie they are looking for.

At least this way the user can fumble their way back to where they left-off without too much headache.
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Old 03-24-20, 07:00 AM
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

Fatal Attraction preorder is up on Amazon for $12. It says MSRP is $24.99. Might be a pricing error, so if interested, I'd lock it in.
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To Catch a Thief has an MSRP of $29.99 and is currently $27.76 on Amazon. King Creola has the same $29.99 MSRP and is at $22.99.




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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

$12 is tempting, but I doubt I’ll ever buy another mainstream title that doesn’t include digital.
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

In the age of 4K, I’m not even remotely interested if these are only on blu. And digital for that matter.
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

To Catch a Thief was released almost 10 years ago on BD. I have it.




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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

These are nice releases... in 2010. In 2020, does anyone really give a shit about packaging anymore (nevermind physical media in general)?
I'm sure there's some interest, but it had to be pretty small at this point.
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

Yeah. Not sure what they are thinking with these releases at this point. If they were doing the same thing but including them in 4K...well, that would make a little more sense. But this seems like a pointless exercise that will soon be abandoned.
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Originally Posted by orangerunner View Post
It's surprising how many fairly high-profile films have never been released on Blu-ray by Paramount, at least in North America.

Pretty in Pink
Some Kind of Wonderful
Golden Child
Harlem Nights
Boomerang
Another 48 Hrs.
Vampire in Brooklyn
Urban Cowboy
Blue Chips
Best Defense
...and so on.
Urban Cowboy is coming out June 2.
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

I read that Jerry Bruckheimer oversaw the 4K remaster of Flashdance for this series

and Adrian Lyne also oversaw the 4K remaster of Fatal Attraction

So the BDs at least those 2 are taken from new 4K remasters, not just some hackjob re-package.
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

Fatal Attraction now priced at $22.99.
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

The flashy packaging is designed with one goal in mind - catching the eye of casual retail consumers at chains like Walmart and Target. It's not really aimed at people like us that likely already own these movies.
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The flashy packaging is designed with one goal in mind - catching the eye of casual retail consumers at chains like Walmart and Target. It's not really aimed at people like us that likely already own these movies.
Then why bother remastering instead of just repacking the older discs? Why use spine numbers? They're copying other boutique labels that collectors buy into.
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Then why bother remastering instead of just repacking the older discs? Why use spine numbers? They're copying other boutique labels that collectors buy into.
Yes, they are attempting to fool some people into believing these movies are part of a premium label like Criterion. Whatever sells...
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Re: Paramount Presents - new label launching 4/21/20

Days of Thunder as Paramount presents release

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Then why bother remastering instead of just repacking the older discs? Why use spine numbers? They're copying other boutique labels that collectors buy into.
Yeah, exactly. They're not putting out a remastered To Catch a Thief with fancy packaging and a spine number to lure in unsuspecting Walmart customers.
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Days of Thunder as Paramount presents release

https://twitter.com/dawnofthediscs/s...43025509924867
But this one gets a separate, non-Paramount Presents, UHD release.

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