Best/Worst 4K UHDs you have seen
#26
DVD Talk Godfather
Re: Best/Worst 4K UHDs you have seen
I haven't been too impressed with Netflix's 4k offerings. What I've watched hasn't been bad, but nothing seems remotely on par with any given 4K disc I've watched.
#27
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Re: Best/Worst 4K UHDs you have seen
I have the disk, but haven't given it a proper look yet.
Will do and report back.
Have you tried Marco Polo?
It's impressive visually and a fascinating series to boot.
Will do and report back.
It's impressive visually and a fascinating series to boot.
#28
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Re: Best/Worst 4K UHDs you have seen
Watched the 4k HDR disk of Alien: Covenant tonite: superb UHD video.
Excellent resolution, as clear and pristine as anything you could ask for.
What really distinguishes this release from other UHDs I have seen is the fantastic black levels...no crushing worth talking about.
The ability to see into the furthest corners of very darkly lit scenes/frames clearly is thrilling.
I have never seen anything like this in my HT before.
Although shot on Arri Alexa cameras and capable of up to 4K resolution, the master is only a 2K digital intermediate.
In spite of using a non-4K master, it is a UHD worthly of showing off one's 4k HT to others.
The palette is mostly gray/teal and orange.
However, there are outbursts here and there of spectacular, contrasting color.
If comparing the UHD to the BD, there simply is no comparison.
The BD is very fine, but this UHD blows it away.
The audio is a bit subdued IMO.
It is rarely bombastic, over-the-top.
And IMO, it works very well.
I won't address the content of Alien: Covenant here, but will later in the appropriate thread.
FWIW, I have the 4k UHD Prometheus coming soon and will report back on that.
Excellent resolution, as clear and pristine as anything you could ask for.
What really distinguishes this release from other UHDs I have seen is the fantastic black levels...no crushing worth talking about.
The ability to see into the furthest corners of very darkly lit scenes/frames clearly is thrilling.
I have never seen anything like this in my HT before.
Although shot on Arri Alexa cameras and capable of up to 4K resolution, the master is only a 2K digital intermediate.
In spite of using a non-4K master, it is a UHD worthly of showing off one's 4k HT to others.
The palette is mostly gray/teal and orange.
However, there are outbursts here and there of spectacular, contrasting color.
If comparing the UHD to the BD, there simply is no comparison.
The BD is very fine, but this UHD blows it away.
The audio is a bit subdued IMO.
It is rarely bombastic, over-the-top.
And IMO, it works very well.
I won't address the content of Alien: Covenant here, but will later in the appropriate thread.
FWIW, I have the 4k UHD Prometheus coming soon and will report back on that.
#29
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Best/Worst 4K UHDs you have seen
I have both Saving Private Ryan and Jurassic Park collection UHD on pre-order. I'm debating since I've already purchased both titles several times. SPR is quadruple dip already, the DD, then DTS, then SE, then BR. JP looks stunning in BR. Hard to imagine they can be better.
#30
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I took a look at the Prometheus 4K tonite.
Very impressive...definitely worth the upgrade for fans of the film.
What comes thru most of all is the HDR.
The movie's palette is mostly grays and blues.
With HDR, the other colors really pop out and give the film a very different look.
At times, it's almost startling.
Also, with the better contrast and brightness more can seen in the shadows of the sets used than the BD reveals and makes for a more satisfying viewing experience IMO.
Because this is an upconvert to 4K from 2K (although a VERY good one), some of the CGI doesn't look right.
For example, the tops of the containers of the black ooze as they come "alive" doesn't look right.
That aside, 5K cameras were used and their excellence can be seen throughout this disk.
The UHD disk can be had at a good price and is worth a purchase for fans of this intriguing movie.
Very impressive...definitely worth the upgrade for fans of the film.
What comes thru most of all is the HDR.
The movie's palette is mostly grays and blues.
With HDR, the other colors really pop out and give the film a very different look.
At times, it's almost startling.
Also, with the better contrast and brightness more can seen in the shadows of the sets used than the BD reveals and makes for a more satisfying viewing experience IMO.
Because this is an upconvert to 4K from 2K (although a VERY good one), some of the CGI doesn't look right.
For example, the tops of the containers of the black ooze as they come "alive" doesn't look right.
That aside, 5K cameras were used and their excellence can be seen throughout this disk.
The UHD disk can be had at a good price and is worth a purchase for fans of this intriguing movie.
#31
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Best/Worst 4K UHDs you have seen
It can only be had in Japan for a princely sum, but many people are saying that the Your Name. UHD has some of the best HDR available on the format. The normal Blu-ray for the anime movie looks fantastic, so I can only imagine it's great.
#33
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After reading an online review, I ordered the Saving Private Ryan 4K release.
Release date = May 8th.
Very excited about this one.
It's a movie originally shot on 35mm film with spherical lenses.
For this release, a native 4K master was created from film's original negative.
It was given color grades in both HDR10 and Dolby Vision (sorry, I don't have a Dolby Vision display...yet).
AND according to the reviewer I read, it looks absolutely incredible.
I will post a review as soon as I receive it.
Release date = May 8th.
Very excited about this one.
It's a movie originally shot on 35mm film with spherical lenses.
For this release, a native 4K master was created from film's original negative.

It was given color grades in both HDR10 and Dolby Vision (sorry, I don't have a Dolby Vision display...yet).
AND according to the reviewer I read, it looks absolutely incredible.

I will post a review as soon as I receive it.
#34
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Best/Worst 4K UHDs you have seen
After reading an online review, I ordered the Saving Private Ryan 4K release.
Release date = May 8th.
Very excited about this one.
It's a movie originally shot on 35mm film with spherical lenses.
For this release, a native 4K master was created from film's original negative.
It was given color grades in both HDR10 and Dolby Vision (sorry, I don't have a Dolby Vision display...yet).
AND according to the reviewer I read, it looks absolutely incredible.
Release date = May 8th.
Very excited about this one.
It's a movie originally shot on 35mm film with spherical lenses.
For this release, a native 4K master was created from film's original negative.

It was given color grades in both HDR10 and Dolby Vision (sorry, I don't have a Dolby Vision display...yet).
AND according to the reviewer I read, it looks absolutely incredible.

#35
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Best/Worst 4K UHDs you have seen
I'm rather dubious about the prospect of this movie being given an HDR grade. Originally, the prints (not the negative, but the theatrical prints themselves) were subjected to the Bleach Bypass process, which deliberately produces a washed-out, faded appearance with desaturated colors for stylistic effect - basically, the exact opposite of HDR.
#36
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It doesn't seem by this review that 4K SPR is colorful except the blood, fire etc
The review describes the entire image presentation as muted.
http://thedigitalbits.com/item/savin...an-20th-uhd-bd
The review describes the entire image presentation as muted.
http://thedigitalbits.com/item/savin...an-20th-uhd-bd
#37
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It doesn't seem by this review that 4K SPR is colorful except the blood, fire etc
The review describes the entire image presentation as muted.
http://thedigitalbits.com/item/savin...an-20th-uhd-bd
The review describes the entire image presentation as muted.
http://thedigitalbits.com/item/savin...an-20th-uhd-bd
IMO, it's perfect that way...especially after growing up watching all of those WW2 docs, etc. in black and white.
It's obvious that is what SS was trying to replicate in his film.
As far as the HDR grading goes, I'll reserve judgement until after I see it.
#38
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#40
DVD Talk Hero
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Apparently the Peter Rabbit UHD is mildly disappointing compared to the Blu-ray.
http://doblu.com/2018/05/02/peter-ra...lu-ray-review/
http://doblu.com/2018/05/02/peter-ra...lu-ray-review/
#42
#43
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Apparently the Peter Rabbit UHD is mildly disappointing compared to the Blu-ray.
http://doblu.com/2018/05/02/peter-ra...lu-ray-review/
http://doblu.com/2018/05/02/peter-ra...lu-ray-review/
To begin with, the BDs are colorful already.
In fact, eye-poppingly so most of the time.
There isn't any shadow detail to speak of either.
I dunno...I just don't see much benefit (excuse the pun).

#45
#46
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And it really does look "spectacular."
Although I only did a quick comparison, the upgrade over the older Sapphire Series BD release is substantial.
The detail of the BD was very good, unfortunately it did not handle the grain very well and it had compression problems.
With the UHD, artifacts are greatly reduced and grain, in general, is very nicely done.
What really stands out to me with this disk is 2 things: the big increase in dimensionality and the HDR.
What I mean by "dimensionality" is DEPTH to the point it looks like a faux 3D in some ways.
The BD looks mostly flat, but this UHD's depth makes the video come alive like never before.
HDR's added color range also makes the video "come alive."
The 2 together make quite an impression in my HT.
Fans of the movie shouldn't hesitate about upgrading to this UHD release...it's a no-brainer and delivers the goods for discriminating enthusiasts.

Although I only did a quick comparison, the upgrade over the older Sapphire Series BD release is substantial.
The detail of the BD was very good, unfortunately it did not handle the grain very well and it had compression problems.
With the UHD, artifacts are greatly reduced and grain, in general, is very nicely done.
What really stands out to me with this disk is 2 things: the big increase in dimensionality and the HDR.
What I mean by "dimensionality" is DEPTH to the point it looks like a faux 3D in some ways.
The BD looks mostly flat, but this UHD's depth makes the video come alive like never before.
HDR's added color range also makes the video "come alive."
The 2 together make quite an impression in my HT.
Fans of the movie shouldn't hesitate about upgrading to this UHD release...it's a no-brainer and delivers the goods for discriminating enthusiasts.
#47
DVD Talk Legend
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I agree. SPR looked and sounded incredible.
#48
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Best Buy needs to lower that SPR Steelbook from $27.99 to $14.99. 
Considering it's only the feature disc and not the regular set that comes with 3 discs.

Considering it's only the feature disc and not the regular set that comes with 3 discs.
#49
DVD Talk Legend
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I did not do an A/B comparison however I watched a few scenes of SPR last night and it is reference quality. The opening scene was always a workout for the surrounds however if it's possible, the audio is even better on this release.
#50
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I'm rather dubious about the prospect of this movie being given an HDR grade. Originally, the prints (not the negative, but the theatrical prints themselves) were subjected to the Bleach Bypass process, which deliberately produces a washed-out, faded appearance with desaturated colors for stylistic effect - basically, the exact opposite of HDR.
It's more of a fuller (for lack of a better word) palette, giving the film a more natural, organic look without compromising Spielberg's original design aesthetics IMO.