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Old 09-20-17, 01:17 PM
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re: Twin Peaks: Season 3/The Return - 12/5/17 (slight spoilers within)

Man, this show is getting a ton of flack in this thread. I didn't watch this season (yet), but ever other take I've heard on it (from friends and other sites) has been mostly positive. But they do all agree that it's weird as fuck, but that's to be expected.
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Old 09-20-17, 01:23 PM
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I'm sitting this one out. I may revisit the season in a few years, but I continue to feel it was a major swing-and-a-miss.
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Man, this show is getting a ton of flack in this thread. I didn't watch this season (yet), but ever other take I've heard on it (from friends and other sites) has been mostly positive. But they do all agree that it's weird as fuck, but that's to be expected.
The season is all over the place. It has moments of brilliance, and does provide answers to some major mysteries that have been left dangling for decades. But it rarely feels like Twin Peaks and wastes a lot of time on characters and storylines that go nowhere. Imagine if the infamous "James' Road Trip" from Season 2 had taken up about 60% of screen time in the original series, because that's kind of what happens here with one increasingly pointless storyline that just goes on and on and on forever.

The whole thing could have been condensed down to about six episodes and been really amazing. As is, it's incredibly frustrating.

Perhaps if you go into it with your expectations set accordingly, you may enjoy it more than some of us who watched it live.
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re: Twin Peaks: Season 3/The Return - 12/5/17 (slight spoilers within)

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The season is all over the place. It has moments of brilliance, and does provide answers to some major mysteries that have been left dangling for decades. But it rarely feels like Twin Peaks and wastes a lot of time on characters and storylines that go nowhere. Imagine if the infamous "James' Road Trip" from Season 2 had taken up about 60% of screen time in the original series, because that's kind of what happens here with one increasingly pointless storyline that just goes on and on and on forever.

The whole thing could have been condensed down to about six episodes and been really amazing. As is, it's incredibly frustrating.

Perhaps if you go into it with your expectations set accordingly, you may enjoy it more than some of us who watched it live.
Josh nailed it.

Watching it live made it worse.
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Lynch knew we wanted Cooper. Every week "Cooper will wake up!!!" and it didn't happen until literally the last minute. We had storylines with characters that made no real sense (mitchum brothers, Chantel and guy from Lie to Me), Jerry stuck in the woods for 18 episodes? Audrey....who knows.


Waste of time. Condense down to 8 episode and it would be solid. But no. Lynch cried like a baby and got the episode count doubled so he could be the star.

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Old 09-21-17, 06:33 PM
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Lol at the Fast and the Furious dudes in this thread. Go watch the latest Marvel flick or some shit ya meathead.
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re: Twin Peaks: Season 3/The Return - 12/5/17 (slight spoilers within)

Originally Posted by slop101 View Post
Man, this show is getting a ton of flack in this thread. I didn't watch this season (yet), but ever other take I've heard on it (from friends and other sites) has been mostly positive. But they do all agree that it's weird as fuck, but that's to be expected.
Go in with an open mind. I'm a huge fan of the original series and Lynch and I loved every minute of it. It's not perfect but there are amazing new characters, some great performances from old faves and some intense fucked up classic Lynch.
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The biggest problem with the new series is all the unresolved storylines. Lynch developed all these story arcs and - without giving too much away - abandons pretty much all of them. That doesn't mean the series isn't highly entertaining (I still think it's far and away the best thing to air on TV this year, and WAY better than Twin Peaks disappointing second season), but we basically get one cliffhanger answered in exchange for a ton of others.

Honestly, I think Lynch was still ticked he had to reveal who killed Laura Palmer back in 1990, so this Season 3 was his revenge. You want to know if
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re: Twin Peaks: Season 3/The Return - 12/5/17 (slight spoilers within)

I agree with Shannon. Watching it live was incredibly frustrating, but I also can't remember the last time I was more excited for each new episode of a show.

Some of the stories that didn't go anywhere were still entertaining yarns (Chantel, the Mitchum brothers), but there were a lot of missed opportunities, Audrey being one of the biggest.

But I absolutely still want to add this to my collection and know I will revisit it. I also think it would play much better as a binge.

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Old 09-22-17, 02:03 AM
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Lots of spoilers in here, not cool. The spoiler tag exists for a reason.

Can a mod please change the thread title to indicate SPOILERS INSIDE? thanks.
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re: Twin Peaks: Season 3/The Return - 12/5/17 (slight spoilers within)

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Lol at the Fast and the Furious dudes in this thread. Go watch the latest Marvel flick or some shit ya meathead.
I've been a Lynch fan for decades, but I'm not an apologist who will ignore his obvious artistic downturn in recent years.

This is the work of the David Lynch who made Inland Empire, not the David Lynch who made Blue Velvet.
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I've been a Lynch fan for decades, but I'm not an apologist who will ignore his obvious artistic downturn in recent years.

This is the work of the David Lynch who made Inland Empire, not the David Lynch who made Blue Velvet.
I want the David Lynch who made Dune!
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I've been a Lynch fan for decades, but I'm not an apologist who will ignore his obvious artistic downturn in recent years.

This is the work of the David Lynch who made Inland Empire, not the David Lynch who made Blue Velvet.
That's harsh! Nothing in this show is truly Inland Empire bad.
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Old 09-22-17, 10:48 AM
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re: Twin Peaks: Season 3/The Return - 12/5/17 (slight spoilers within)

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This is the work of the David Lynch who made Inland Empire, not the David Lynch who made Blue Velvet.
I respectfully disagree. It's not his greatest work, but off the top of my head, I'd rank the season (the entire season) over Inland Empire, Wild at Heart, and Dune (sorry), and definitely better than a good chunk of Season 2 of TP.

But to each his own. It's flawed, sure. You won't see me saying it's perfect and Lynch is perfect or anything like that. But I enjoyed it. I honestly did. And I thought the ending was good, too.
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Old 09-22-17, 11:30 AM
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Yeah, I'm just hoping it's better than season 2 of TP.
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Yeah, I'm just hoping it's better than season 2 of TP.
If you haven't seen season 3 yet, go in with lowered expectations.
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Old 09-22-17, 12:21 PM
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Yeah, I'm just hoping it's better than season 2 of TP.
It is.
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It might be better than season 2 on balance, but anyone who thinks it's better than the Lynch directed episodes in season 2 is crazy.
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Old 09-23-17, 06:15 AM
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Honestly, this may be his masterpiece. I think time will treat this well (much like FWWM which was universally hated when it was initially released). There still isn't a day that goes by where I have not thought about this season since the finale.
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Honestly, this may be his masterpiece. I think time will treat this well (much like FWWM which was universally hated when it was initially released). There still isn't a day that goes by where I have not thought about this season since the finale.
FWWM was hated probably because some thought Lynch would resolve the storylines he abandoned in S2 or purposely left open knowing full well he was getting cancelled. He didn't.

You could pretty much say the same for S3.
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Although I felt this season was 90% a burning train wreck, I am enjoying the hell out of Twin Peaks (Music from the Limited Event Series). It's got all of the great Roadhouse performances and some of the other music heard during the otherwise interminable 18 hours.
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FWWM was hated probably because some thought Lynch would resolve the storylines he abandoned in S2 or purposely left open knowing full well he was getting cancelled. He didn't.
That doesn't really make much sense, given that Fire Walk With Me was always marketed as a prequel to S1.

You could pretty much say the same for S3.
Personally, my issues with this new series have little to do with still unresolved story lines from S2. Some of the Lynchian fever dream stuff in the new series was riveting and inspired, but there was way too much meaningless meandering and glaring elements that didn't follow the established "internal rules" of the Twin Peaks universe.
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Although I felt this season was 90% a burning train wreck, I am enjoying the hell out of Twin Peaks (Music from the Limited Event Series). It's got all of the great Roadhouse performances and some of the other music heard during the otherwise interminable 18 hours.
Just ordered the vinyl. I'm debating getting the vinyl of the score as well, to go with my Mondo scores for the original series and FWWM.
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That doesn't really make much sense, given that Fire Walk With Me was always marketed as a prequel to S1.
Fire Walk With Me was hardly marketed at all, and certainly not well.
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Fire Walk With Me was hardly marketed at all, and certainly not well.
I'm not making any claims about the volume of marketing for it. I'm merely saying any fan of the show who even saw part of the trailer beforehand knew it couldn't take place after S2.
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I'm not making any claims about the volume of marketing for it. I'm merely saying any fan of the show who even saw part of the trailer beforehand knew it couldn't take place after S2.
There was still an expectation that the movie would somehow tie up the TV show's loose ends. Yes, the trailer showed it as a prequel, but as far as anyone knew, those scenes could have been framed as flashbacks inside a story that took place after the end of S2. Or at least the first half of the movie could have ended with a time-jump forward for the second half.

The idea that Lynch would end the TV show with a bunch of unresolved storylines, and then immediately go into production on a movie, yet not use that movie to give the show a proper ending, just seemed inconceivable to people. It made no sense to them why he would do that.
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