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Old 07-19-17, 09:37 PM   #26
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re: Terminator 2 4K UHD - delayed

I don't suppose it's also coming to BD? This is a 4K exclusive, am I right? And why is it so hard to get T1 with the mono?
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Old 07-19-17, 09:54 PM   #27
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It would be pretty much impossible to release True Lies on BD without Cameron. If Cameron isn't involved in a release, chances are Arnold won't want to be involved either. They are joined at the hip.

I'm sure FOX could do a BD remaster themselves and release it barebones. I don't think Cameron owns the rights to the film. Usually the studio does. But without Cameron's involvement in any extras, it's almost pointless. Same with Arnold. They need both of them.
I'm pretty sure Cameron's company (Lightstorm Entertainment) owns the copyright to True Lies.
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Old 07-19-17, 10:29 PM   #28
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But The Abyss? No. There's no legitimate reason to be stuck with a non-anamorphic DVD released in the year 2000. There have been DVD re-issues along the way, changing nothing but the artwork it seems, but it's still the same shitty encode that it always

So what is it about The Abyss that has made James Cameron avoid a proper DVD or Blu-ray? Is there something in the film that he dislikes as much as he (allegedly) dislikes True Lies? I just don't get it...
The Abyss is probably my favorite Cameron flick. It disgusts me that there still isn't a proper release available in 2017! Starz aired a pretty nice looking HD version a couple years ago so I know there's at least a somewhat decent transfer out there.

But as long as we get the 37th release of T2, I guess it's all good.
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I don't suppose it's also coming to BD? This is a 4K exclusive, am I right? And why is it so hard to get T1 with the mono?
It has a blu ray copy too (presumably sourced from the same 4k remaster), which prob will store all the extras. & usually Lions Gate doesn't charge up the ass for 4kUHD
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I'm sure FOX could do a BD remaster themselves and release it barebones. I don't think Cameron owns the rights to the film. Usually the studio does. But without Cameron's involvement in any extras, it's almost pointless. Same with Arnold. They need both of them.
I believe Cameron has it written into his contracts that he must approve any new video masters for his movies.
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Old 07-22-17, 03:47 PM   #31
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It would be pretty much impossible to release True Lies on BD without Cameron. If Cameron isn't involved in a release, chances are Arnold won't want to be involved either. They are joined at the hip.

I'm sure FOX could do a BD remaster themselves and release it barebones. I don't think Cameron owns the rights to the film. Usually the studio does. But without Cameron's involvement in any extras, it's almost pointless. Same with Arnold. They need both of them.
Screw extras. Most of the people who buy movies buy them for the movie.
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Old 07-22-17, 03:47 PM   #32
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I believe Cameron has it written into his contracts that he must approve any new video masters for his movies.
Then I'll be glad when this bastard joins Romero.
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Old 07-22-17, 04:05 PM   #33
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re: Terminator 2 4K UHD - delayed

I saw an interview with Eliza Dushku about four or five years ago (I think it was the Nerdist show on BBC America...which according to IMDB would make it 2013) where she said she had just filmed some extras segments for the forthcoming True Lies release. Clearly it should be out any day now.
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Old 07-22-17, 04:51 PM   #34
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I believe Cameron has it written into his contracts that he must approve any new video masters for his movies.
Doesn't that basically mean they just need Cameron to sign his name on some legal document to be filed away?

Make the new transfer, show Cameron a few scenes from it, and have his ass sign the form. Hell, worst case, show him the transfer of the whole movie. We're talking a maximum of 2 hours of his Royal Highness' time!
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Old 07-22-17, 05:41 PM   #35
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I saw an interview with Eliza Dushku about four or five years ago (I think it was the Nerdist show on BBC America...which according to IMDB would make it 2013) where she said she had just filmed some extras segments for the forthcoming True Lies release. Clearly it should be out any day now.
I think it's more probable that Dushko, and all of us, are dead before either film is released again.
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Old 07-22-17, 10:59 PM   #36
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I believe Cameron has it written into his contracts that he must approve any new video masters for his movies.
the way ive always understood the wording on say criterion booklets for transfers. Approved means they watched the movie (or saw a few scenes) & gave their thumbs up & supervised means they are actually there giving notes and what not during the restoration/scan
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Old 07-24-17, 09:47 AM   #37
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Doesn't that basically mean they just need Cameron to sign his name on some legal document to be filed away?

Make the new transfer, show Cameron a few scenes from it, and have his ass sign the form. Hell, worst case, show him the transfer of the whole movie. We're talking a maximum of 2 hours of his Royal Highness' time!
That's not the way James Cameron works. He's going to want to adjust the entire movie frame-by-frame to his current liking. He'd rather the movie be stuck with an old non-anamorphic Laserdisc master (which he supervised back in the day) than sign off on something he didn't micro-manage every detail of.
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Old 07-24-17, 09:50 AM   #38
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That's not the way James Cameron works. He's going to want to adjust the entire movie frame-by-frame to his current liking. He'd rather the movie be stuck with an old non-anamorphic Laserdisc master (which he supervised back in the day) than sign off on something he didn't micro-manage every detail of.
I hope these hollywood idiots aren't giving directors/producers that kind of control anymore. I'll be glad when dinosaurs like Cameron fuck off and die.
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Old 07-24-17, 10:09 AM   #39
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Damn, so much hate.
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Old 07-24-17, 10:37 AM   #40
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I have an earlier Blu-ray, the one with the T-800 head on the cover. I can't remember the last time I watched the movie though, so I'll definitely skip this and maybe even sell off the one I currently have.
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Old 07-24-17, 02:12 PM   #41
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That T2 4k release with the arm is $150 via Amazon.

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Old 07-24-17, 10:55 PM   #42
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re: Terminator 2 4K UHD - delayed

The whole point of the rerelease in theaters is the 3D version of the movie. And then we don't get 3D on the blu ray here in the US? I don't get it.
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blu-ray.com says this will contain both cuts, though it doesn't say which cut will get the UHD treatement
The details actually say "3 Different Versions of the Movie" so I wanted to ask you guys if anyone knows what is different between them?

Seamless Branching of the Theatrical cut, Director's Cut and Special extended edition.

And to possibly answer your question Rypro, the Amazon listing specifies "4K Ultra HD Blu-rayTM of the theatrical film".


PS: I agree with the one commenter who posted that no 3D release can ever be considered 'complete' unless it includes the Universal Studios mini-sequel =).
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PS: I agree with the one commenter who posted that no 3D release can ever be considered 'complete' unless it includes the Universal Studios mini-sequel =).
While it would be cool to have the "movie" screen footage available on disc, the show doesn't work without the props and actors that move around the audience. Not something that really translates to video.
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While it would be cool to have the "movie" screen footage available on disc, the show doesn't work without the props and actors that move around the audience. Not something that really translates to video.
Certainly it would not be as cool as really seeing it in person, but as far as I know the show is still going so before it closes down for good some day they really should make a small investment to get in the back of the room and record the whole thing properly. Not just the 3D screen footage you mentioned but also the live actors and smoke and whatnot.
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Old 07-25-17, 01:42 PM   #46
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I read that the UHD treatment went for the TC version.
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The details actually say "3 Different Versions of the Movie" so I wanted to ask you guys if anyone knows what is different between them?

Seamless Branching of the Theatrical cut, Director's Cut and Special extended edition.

And to possibly answer your question Rypro, the Amazon listing specifies "4K Ultra HD Blu-rayTM of the theatrical film".


PS: I agree with the one commenter who posted that no 3D release can ever be considered 'complete' unless it includes the Universal Studios mini-sequel =).
ooh shit third cut will be on here too? the one with the infamous
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Old Sarah Connor narration saying nothing happened and everything is safe. Which if they had gone with that ending, they couldn't really do any sequels
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Old 07-26-17, 08:42 AM   #48
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I read that the UHD treatment went for the TC version.
Was it my post that you read it in =)
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Old 07-28-17, 08:40 PM   #49
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Does Fox really need James Cameron's permission/supervision to put True Lies on blu-ray?
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Does Fox really need James Cameron's permission/supervision to put True Lies on blu-ray?
Yeah. Cameron has ownership of True Lies.
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