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HellTrack 03-23-14 09:24 PM

X-Men First Class Blu Cover
 
I just got this version of the blu-ray for X-Men First Class. It's only the single disc edition, but that's alright. I know it's pretty much a piece of crap, but I did want to see it. The problem is, I can't find an HQ back or front cover for this particular version anywhere. Here it is.
http://www.amazon.ca/X-Men-First-Cla...3A+First+Class

RocShemp 03-23-14 09:44 PM

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You want a scan of the cover of a BD you already own? Am I understanding you right? If so, why not scan it yourself?

Also, FC isn't crap. It's arguably the best of the X-Men movies (though there are others that would place it second to X2).

hanshotfirst1138 03-23-14 10:07 PM

Ours is not to wonder why.

Solid Snake 03-23-14 10:42 PM

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Erik and Charles make it all worth it. Much more interesting than a Wolverine and other mutants story again.

Still hate the the kids though.

HellTrack 03-24-14 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 12054586)
You want a scan of the cover of a BD you already own? Am I understanding you right? If so, why not scan it yourself?

Also, FC isn't crap. It's arguably the best of the X-Men movies (though there are others that would place it second to X2).

I don't have a scanner. And it is crap. They had characters meeting that didn't meet when they did in the comics. Just like the upcoming Days Of Future Past. The new movies is FILLED with characters that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual story and were never in it.

FC is arguably the best of the X-Men movies? Alright.

Supermallet 03-24-14 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HellTrack (Post 12055958)
I don't have a scanner. And it is crap. They had characters meeting that didn't meet when they did in the comics. Just like the upcoming Days Of Future Past. The new movies is FILLED with characters that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual story and were never in it.

FC is arguably the best of the X-Men movies? Alright.

Oh, I see the problem. You have no clue what adaptation entails.

Why So Blu? 03-25-14 03:24 AM

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:lol:

Solid Snake 03-25-14 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HellTrack (Post 12055958)
I don't have a scanner. And it is crap. They had characters meeting that didn't meet when they did in the comics. Just like the upcoming Days Of Future Past. The new movies is FILLED with characters that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual story and were never in it.

FC is arguably the best of the X-Men movies? Alright.

So I guess you hate pretty much every superhero movie. Cuz with that mindset? Yeah. You're better off not watching any adapted material.


Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12055992)
Oh, I see the problem. You have no clue what adaptation entails.

That's sig material right there.

HellTrack 03-25-14 11:19 AM

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Not every superhero movies messes up as bad as the last X-men movie and this newest one. The Christopher Reeve Superman movies, well the first 2, were great. Michael Keaton's Batman movies were great, too. Even the first X-Men movie, with all it's mistakes, was really good. Daredevil sucked. Electra sucked. Avengers was awesome. Well, a lot better than I thought it would be. Captain America could have been much better, but it was alright. (Chris Evans was VERY wrong for the part.) Thor was good.

What other superhero movies have there been? Oh, Spiderman. It was alright, I guess. A lot of mistakes like organic webshooters, the green goblin costume, and Toby McGuire. But it was a solid cheesy movie. Iron Man? Meh. I can take it or leave it. I didn't like that they just about destroyed the origin story. But the movie it's self, Gwenyth Paltrow aside, was fun.

And I DO know what adaptation means. Doesn't mean you have to completely mess up the source story to make one and put characters that weren't in the story to begin with.

Supermallet 03-25-14 12:37 PM

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There are a host of reasons creative decisions get made when changing a story from one medium to another. Instead of nitpicking every change, just ask yourself, "Does this work as its own story" and if it does, then don't worry about it.

wahlers 03-25-14 01:39 PM

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Not to be argumentative, but if part of your requirement for a good adaptation is to not put characters that weren't in the story in it then none of the X-Men films should be considered good. Right from the first one they messed with the status quo of the team. Iceman was a kid in the film, Cyclops & Jean were teachers, Beast had apparantly already left the team (per the 3rd movie), and Angel was not associated with them at all. None of this was accurate for when Wolverine first joined the team. Not to mention all of the characters that were not at the school together, etc.

The different films in the series have different moods and storytelling methods. I personally thought that First Class was stylistically the best film in the series, but X-Men 2 was rather close because of having more strong actors than First Class.

X-Men (1) is still enjoyable, but dated. Three is pretty terrible all around. Any part of X-Men Origins: Wolverine that had only Wolverine and/or Sabretooth was enjoyable, but the rest was a mess. The Wolverine was pretty enjoyable. These of course are my opinions.

I think the important thing with comic book movies is to just try to enjoy them for what they are. I read pretty much everything X-Men from the start all the way up through 1995's Age of Apocalypse. Are the X-Men movie's good adaptations? Absolutely not. But some are enjoyable.

If you don't enjoy a particular comic book movie that's your right but you shouldn't blame it on the movie changing things from the comics. Some of the examples of comic book movies you said you liked are also terrible adaptations that completely changed character origins, motivations, etc. (i.e. Tim Burton's Batman films), but are still enjoyable.

Plus, DC comics are even worse than Marvel because they keep rebooting their characters and changing their origins. If you say, "That's not Catwoman's origin" or "Batman doesn't act like that", you have to specify which decade of the comics you're talking about. :/

Josh Z 03-25-14 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12056480)
There are a host of reasons creative decisions get made when changing a story from one medium to another. Instead of nitpicking every change, just ask yourself, "Does this work as its own story" and if it does, then don't worry about it.

And to that end, a lot of First Class doesn't work. All the crap with the X-teens... Ugh, what a painful waste of time. Any frame of film that January Jones appears in... simply horrid. The Rose Byrne storyline has nothing to do with anything and serves no purpose at all. The movie feels like it was cobbled together quickly when it needed a few more rewrites.

Supermallet 03-25-14 04:08 PM

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Yeah, but the Fassbender/McAvoy slash fanfiction from it is epic, so your argument is invalid Josh.

Shannon Nutt 03-25-14 04:52 PM

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First Class is by far my favorite X-Men movie. :shrug:

E Unit 03-25-14 05:20 PM

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I still like 2 best, but First Class is a close second, mostly because McAvoy and Fassbinder were so great as Xavier and Magneto. Kids were annoying, but not enough to ruin the movie for me.

Mr. Salty 03-25-14 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by HellTrack (Post 12056362)
Even the first X-Men movie, with all it's mistakes, was really good. ... Oh, Spiderman. It was alright, I guess. A lot of mistakes like organic webshooters.

They aren't "mistakes" when they were done intentionally.

But anyway, I'm still entertained by your need for high-quality scans to make a cover for your bootleg of a movie you hate.

HellTrack 03-25-14 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Salty (Post 12056855)
They aren't "mistakes" when they were done intentionally.

But anyway, I'm still entertained by your need for high-quality scans to make a cover for your bootleg of a movie you hate.

Bootleg? Who was talking about bootlegs?

Supermallet 03-25-14 06:55 PM

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I don't find the kids in First Class to be nearly as annoying as a lot of people do. It's also my favorite X-Men film so far. Hoping Days of Future Past is even better.

Mike86 03-25-14 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 12056948)
I don't find the kids in First Class to be nearly as annoying as a lot of people do. It's also my favorite X-Men film so far. Hoping Days of Future Past is even better.

Yeah I hear a lot of bitching about the kids in First Class but I didn't really have a problem with most of them. I still think it's easily the best X-Men film to date with The Wolverine being a close second.

hanshotfirst1138 03-25-14 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 12056538)
And to that end, a lot of First Class doesn't work. All the crap with the X-teens... Ugh, what a painful waste of time. Any frame of film that January Jones appears in... simply horrid. The Rose Byrne storyline has nothing to do with anything and serves no purpose at all. The movie feels like it was cobbled together quickly when it needed a few more rewrites.

Vaughn and Goldman rewrote the screenplay from Singer and co. Personally, I just think he's not a very good writer and was way too concerned with the retro look and not enough with the allegorical stuff in the narrative. And the kids were so annoying, it would've been difficult to make me care about them. Jones was only there to stand around in her underwear and turn into diamond.

Supermallet 03-25-14 08:08 PM

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I will agree that January Jones sucks the air out of every scene she's in. But that's also true for Mad Men, and I'm not going to say that Mad Men sucks just because January Jones is in it.

Michael Corvin 03-25-14 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 12056951)
Yeah I hear a lot of bitching about the kids in First Class but I didn't really have a problem with most of them.

I don't find it's a problem with the kids, per se, but a problem in regards to the title. It's First Class yet the movie has little to do with them and what screen time they do have is forgettable. I think if the movie carried a different title, there would be fewer complaints.

McAvoy and Fassbender carry the flick right up until the limp ending which is as nearly as bad as all of X3.

hanshotfirst1138 03-25-14 09:47 PM

I don't think that the problem was the kids or the "young X-Men angle per se," it's just that everyone was so utterly uninteresting. The kids themselves were kind of dull, and what character development they received wasn't quite enough to make me care. Fassbender and Macavoy were good and carried what they could from the film, but while they handled it well, their relationship was frankly more interesting than most of the stuff that the film put front and center. Magneto kept oscillating from good guy to psycho, most the action sequences lack any of the tension of Singer's, the film rushed through way too much trying to connect the dots of the mythology-why not have the Eric-Charles relationship become the focus of a new trilogy instead of crippling Xavier at the end and putting everyone in place?

The ending itself also felt like leftover Cold War pulp that was outdated in 90s Steven Segal movies-that's what sparked the war between mutants and humanity? To me, what was most frustrating about the film was how it squandered its premise-think of the social upheavals in the 1960s to apply to an allegorical context-sexism, race riots, etc-but all Vaughn seems to have gotten out of it is "I can make it look like James Bond!" There are lots of interesting ideas scattered about-the Magneto-Holocaust background has always been fascinating, the way the film tries to align it with state subjugation with the same thing, and with sexism, racism (the obvious KKK imagery in Darwin's death, Angel's job as sex object vs. being a "freak"), Magneto mirroring Shaw and even getting some of his equipment, the splintering the teams (the rift between Xavier and Eric, but also between Eric and Raven), but I don't think any of it coheres.

McKellen and Stewart were able to make two characters eyeballing each other across chessboards some of the most interesting and tense in the films, their verbal sparring far more exciting than anything the FX team could cook up. Macavoy and Fassbender do well with the relationship, but I don't think that there's anything quite that meaty for them to chew on. I'd much rather see a film which focused on the Eric and Charles relationship and sidelined all of the fireworks, but the commercial demands of a blockbuster movie seem to render that impossible.

Solid Snake 03-25-14 11:50 PM

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...Jesus. You need to break that shit up into some paragraphs.

hanshotfirst1138 03-26-14 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 12057165)
...Jesus. You need to break that shit up into some paragraphs.

No one will read it anyway, so what difference does it make :p?


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