DVD Talk Forum

DVD Talk Forum (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/)
-   HD Talk (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/hd-talk-55/)
-   -   Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray (https://forum.dvdtalk.com/hd-talk/617840-doomed-untold-story-roger-cormans-fantastic-four-coming-blu-ray.html)

DJariya 02-07-14 05:52 PM

Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
Here's the trailer for the documentary:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/hb0z33xu4WU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


You can order the BD right here off the official site:

http://doomedthemovie.com/product/combo-pack/

It's $24.95


This is an independently produced film, so it's unlikely to get a five finger discount or appear on Amazon for all you cheap bastards.

Mike86 02-07-14 05:57 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
This could be interesting, I'll probably pick this up once it's out. I wonder if the documentary Kevin Smith has talked about making regarding the Burton Superman which he wrote a script for will ever come out. That could be an interesting story to see too.

Rocketdog2000 02-07-14 08:49 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
So has anyone else here but me actually seen the movie? Some aspects of it weren't all that bad, but most were indeed pretty terrible. Almost on parr with the unaired, live action Justice League pilot.

This documentary looks good, though.

whotony 02-07-14 10:04 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
I've seen it. I have a copy on vhs that I bought at a convention 20 years ago.

It isn;t as bad as you would think.
From what I remember most of the budget went to a special effect for the climax of the movie.

The Thing costume was well done too.

Mike86 02-07-14 10:29 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
I haven't watched all of it (I know it can be found fairly easily) but the parts I've seen honestly don't seem all that bad. It's cheesy yes and obviously by today's standards it's incredibly dated but some of it actually looks pretty decent to me. They actually got the costumes all down pretty well for the most part. I think if it had a bigger budget and some fine tuning it probably could have turned out okay, at least by Corman's standards. The live action Justice League pilot on the other hand is absolutely horrid.

Solid Snake 02-08-14 03:58 AM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
Yeah. I think the film is bad, if not horrible, but it had very good intentions. That budget for sure could have been bigger to make it better cuz Jesus, man. It is so cheap. And for good reason.

The thing suit actually looks good for that time. I admire that bit very much.

Rocketdog2000 02-08-14 06:07 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
I always thought The Thing suit looked better than the one they ended up using in the big budget 20th Century Fox version of The Fantastic Four. Ditto Doctor Doom.

John Pannozzi 02-08-14 08:29 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
Interestingly, it seems there's a bit of controversy as to whether or not the film was originally intended to be released or not, Stan Lee said the film was never intended to be released, but Roger Corman and the now-deceased German film producer who had the FF movie rights at the time (and who went on to produce the two FF movies that WERE released) said otherwise:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fan..._release_plans

Hopefully, this doc will explain everything.

And I wonder if I could make a comic book superhero movie for a lower budget (say $10 million - $15 million)? I really want to produce some movies based on independent comic books in the future (starting with fan films of TMNT and Gen 13, and hopefully moving on to bigger, official comic-to-film adaptations).

Giles 02-08-14 09:00 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
I got to see this, as from what I've seen the Fantastic Four looks beyond hideous (as in watching a car crash in slow motion).

zyzzle 02-08-14 11:07 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
Never seen it.

I wish Corman would do a documentary on the Poe cycle films of the 1960s. Of course it's too late now, but he *is* still alive! I think that was one of the greatest coups in all of low-budget film history. And they were actually literate and well done! I'd actually relish such a docu, and buy it. Unlike th Fantastic Four one.

MTRodaba2468 02-09-14 12:15 AM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
I've always enjoyed documentaries about films. This could be interesting...

Solid Snake 02-09-14 03:39 AM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
That's my thing. I love film history and this one is interesting.

d2cheer 02-09-14 10:31 AM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
I haven't seen the Corman FF but will see this.

Mike86 02-09-14 10:37 AM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 

Originally Posted by zyzzle (Post 12005481)
Never seen it.

I wish Corman would do a documentary on the Poe cycle films of the 1960s. Of course it's too late now, but he *is* still alive! I think that was one of the greatest coups in all of low-budget film history. And they were actually literate and well done! I'd actually relish such a docu, and buy it. Unlike th Fantastic Four one.

It's not a full documentary on that but it is touched on a bit in the documentary: Corman's World: Exploits of a Hollywood Rebel. Pretty good documentary on his career as a whole for those interested in him and his films or just good documentaries about making of films in general.

DJariya 02-09-14 12:53 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
Back when I heard about this movie, I was in college and after classes, I would visit my local video and rent the latest B movies. I was really into Shannon Tweed's cheesy erotic thrillers and a lot of the stuff from New Horizons/Concorde home video, which released Corman's stuff. Anyways, I saw a trailer at the beginning of the VHS for one of Corman's movies and at the end it said "Coming soon to VHS"

And I waited and waited and waited to no avail.

Anyone pull the trigger yet and pre-order this documentary? I believe it's supposed to be released this summer.

Mike86 02-09-14 12:59 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
I haven't ordered it yet but I'm definitely planning on picking it up. It would be nice if Amazon offered it as I sometimes don't like dealing with sites like this who I don't know much about. I don't care about price I just feel safer with Amazon generally.

DJariya 02-09-14 01:12 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 12005779)
I haven't ordered it yet but I'm definitely planning on picking it up. It would be nice if Amazon offered it as I sometimes don't like dealing with sites like this who I don't know much about. I don't care about price I just feel safer with Amazon generally.

But this site is from the Producers of the film. You're ordering directly from the people who made the documentary, similar to the F13 doc. There is nothing shady about it. Read the website, the People who made the doc introduce themselves.

b2net 02-09-14 01:49 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 12005777)
I saw a trailer at the beginning of the VHS for one of Corman's movies and at the end it said "Coming soon to VHS"

And I waited and waited and waited to no avail.

There was a trailer at the beginning of Carnasaur (spelling?) back then..

Preterite 02-09-14 02:40 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 

Originally Posted by John Pannozzi (Post 12005388)
Interestingly, it seems there's a bit of controversy as to whether or not the film was originally intended to be released or not, Stan Lee said the film was never intended to be released, but Roger Corman and the now-deceased German film producer who had the FF movie rights at the time (and who went on to produce the two FF movies that WERE released) said otherwise

And that's why I hope this documentary doesn't try to present Corman as a plucky little guy whose dreams of an FF movie were quashed by The Man. It was pretty widely known even at the time that the production was simply to secure the rights because (IIRC) Speilberg had expressed interest in them.

There was a Film Threat cover article on the movie while it was in production. The cast all expressed hopes that this would be a good break for them, that despite the low pay and harsh working conditions they would at least get the chance to be noticed. In the end, they didn't even get that.

The FT author spoke glowingly of the craft services table on set. Because film crews generally can't leave the set to grab lunch or dinner (and often are working miles from any restaurant), they rely on the craft services table to keep them fed during their long working days. On the FF set, the craft services table provided only baloney sandwiches and generic soda. Corman had his people working at 12-14 hour days and all he fed them was baloney. In more ways than one.

robin2099 02-09-14 02:42 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 

Originally Posted by b2net (Post 12005807)
There was a trailer at the beginning of Carnasaur (spelling?) back then..

There was also a trailer for it on the VHS release of The Fan(yes the Snipes/Deniro one). I've always wondered how they managed to pull that off.

I always thought this movie was kind of fun. Yes it's low budget, and corny, and the plot is dumb. But you can see everyone having fun with it and you could tell it was a labor of love. So it's pretty enjoyable on that basis.

Disc-Flipper 02-09-14 04:07 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
Why not release the actual movie? rights-hell?

robin2099 02-09-14 04:27 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 

Originally Posted by Disc-Flipper (Post 12005935)
Why not release the actual movie? rights-hell?

I don't think anyone would even know who owns the rights to release it anymore. It's not like Marvel would try and block it or anything.

b2net 02-09-14 06:08 PM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
I believe this is the trailer from the aforementioned VHS movies..

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/r_X5C6e3ZeY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Shannon Nutt 02-10-14 07:21 AM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
I've seen the movie - it IS as bad as you've heard. It's god-awful, in fact. It is better than the low-budget Captain America movie, though. :)

The Valeyard 02-10-14 11:30 AM

Re: Doomed! The Untold Story of Roger Corman's The Fantastic Four - Coming to Blu-Ray
 
This is the Teaser Trailer I saw on VHS back in the early 90s. It has the infamous "Almost." notation at the end and "Coming soon to a theatre near you."

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/zLnsUOL-O84" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I was working at a Blockbuster at the time and someone came in looking a specific title that supposedly had the Teaser. He had heard it from a friend of a friend. I pulled the video from the shelves and played it on the store's system for him. I love the music (from Battle Beyond The Stars) and overall, it's a pretty exciting Teaser for a crappy film.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:11 AM.


Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.